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Originally posted by Trinity:
Hmm...geeky guy, intelligence is a must. Taller than me (I'm 5'3 so I'm too demanding here), glasses, nice eyes, nice smile, outgoing...I could go on and on. Just a guy who's genuinely fun to be around and not too critical of other people but knows what he wants out of life.
Ya, sounds good.

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Anyway, as I find it hard to quantify what I find attractive, I will follow the trends present.

Glasses are a nice thing - not necessary, but I have made an observation that a lot of smart people I know wear glasses. There are idiots out there who also wear glasses, but not too many. I once asked my friend - "do you have any vision problems?", as he is a really smart person, and doesn't wear glasses, shocking me. He conceded that he may shortly need glasses for far-sightedness. Personally, I cannot see detail a foot away from my face without glasses. This is not to say I don't find women without glasses attractive, but there really is something about glasses that completes a look. Views are mixed as to how I look without glasses.

Hair color is a relatively moot point with me. I prefer natural - beyond that I don't really have a true preference (and even so, there are cases of artificial color that I don't terribly mind).. I have a slight tendancy towards blondes - and I have dark blond hair, a friend tells me it's "ash blond." But I have been smitten with a few brunettes, and perhaps one red-haired person. The aforementioned friend of mine describes her hair as "strawberry blond," a color whose name I do not understand, but do utterly love (the person, and the hair). It has no red in it at all, and it's probably a shade above mine.

Height - I prefer someone a bit shorter than myself (~5' 9-10"), but take no issue.

Weight - well, I don't really think that supermodel thin is exactly healthy. If I were pull her near to me, I don't want to be afraid of breaking her in two. There is nothing wrong with having a little "meat on the bones." While I'm lightweight geek, I am not in perfect shape (e.g. do not have a '6 pack,' as my friend once pointed out), so who am I to criticize, or expect people to have ridiculous figures.

I could probably go on about a few other things mentioned, -- like eyes (I probably prefer brown eyes like mine - brown eyes can have a wondrous warmth, but there are other colors equally captivating), hair style, pants (my mouth would probably drop at velvet pants, but I don't really think that much about them), and other bits of fashion, etc, or things present in a Seinfeld episode -- but I won't, as the thing of greater importance after initial notice is the presence of a brain. Mmm, brain. Seriously, I do find it important that someone be able to think for themself, and be reasonably well read. A lover of sci-fi, mystery, and non-fiction like myself would not be a bad thing, but whatever she liked I'd probably think was great. I don't need a carbon copy of myself, that would not be interesting, but someone I can debate ideas with is a desireable trait. It's unlikely I'll find someone who reads /. daily, but the NYT would not be a far stretch (though I admit I only read it online these days, occasionally). But I would love it if they read AY2K/JoT/Forums. Computer literacy would be a must - I doubt my dreams would be met of finding another lover of Linux, but a knowledgeable user of Windoze (just not ME/XP - shudder!), or a creative user of Macs (OS X, please!) would still be appreciated.

So to make my long spiel short, I want a geekette, but doubt the ability to find one, as I work/study at a liberal arts college.

Oh, yeah, and the last physical trait that comes to mind - someone who doesn't smoke and doesn't drink (at all, or at least excessively), and doesn't do drugs. These things disgust me.
And knowing that I had written something about smell recently, I went ahead and searched, and found this

Edit: Woo-hoo, post #128 - a lucky number to me. This was also so long that it got pushed onto the next page.

http://www.ironminds.com/ironminds/issues/000417/prance.shtml

You�ve got to adore nerds. They send flowers, read books and
know what to do when you cry. They just have a problem with
asking you out.

For the Love of Geeks
By Lizz Zitron

I love boys with glasses, who look like they cut their own hair,
who wear their grandfather�s clothes. I love boys who trip over
cords, fall when they go upstairs and stammer and blush when I
talk to them. I am a sucker for scientists with no social skills and
English majors with no shoelaces in their shoes. I think
accordions and pocket protectors are sexy. I love nerds.
Nerds make the best boyfriends. They send flowers, read
books, see the movies you want uncomplainingly and know what
to do when you cry. They won�t dump you for a cheerleader
because you gained five pounds. Nerds don�t care if you have
PMS or zits or if you wear sweatpants all day. In fact, they are
just so thrilled to be in your presence, they plain worship the
ground you walk on. They are even willing to take ballroom dance
lessons. And enjoy them.
You might think you couldn�t take a nerd out. Sure, he does
well one-on-one, but you are worried he will embarrass you at the
next beer bust by discussing the intricacies of double crystal
defractometers. Most likely he will, but you would be surprised at
how many people actually find intelligent and challenging
conversation interesting. Remarkably, many of your cohorts are
sick of discussing this week�s Must See TV. Your nerd�s
knowledge of medieval religious rhetoric is a welcome alternative
to getting drunk and hitting on the same people with no success.
Sure, your friends might think he is having a seizure out on the
dance floor, but this guy loves you so much he will make a fool
of himself if it makes you happy. And, my mother always says,
grab the man who will dance with you; those kind are few and far
between.
You might think the Ricky Martins of the world are the way
to go when choosing a man. �But, he�s so pretty,� you whine.
Okay, but do you really want to be associated with a man who
makes his living shaking his bon-bon, and encouraging others to
do so? How faithful do you really think such a man will be? And,
what about his career potential? Do you really think Ricky Martin
will have a stable job in five years? A nerd will never spend a year
flipping through the want ads in between stock-car racing or send
you out to get beer. Nerds have stable careers and employment
records, which means they can take you out on real dates and
don�t ask to borrow money.

There is a downside to nerds. While they are prevalent and
generally highly successful in our society, they tend to resemble
turtles on the dating scene. Very rarely will a geek actually ask
you out. You could sit on a nerd�s lap and start nibbling on his
ear and he will ask in all sincerity if you are trying to tell him
something. The reasons for a nerd not making that initial move
vary. Nice guys often think since you are so pretty, you must
clearly already have a dashing, rich, Italian boyfriend who jets you
off to Europe on the weekends. After all, you are a girl; therefore,
you must be taken. This is the dating logic of a geek.
Or, he doesn�t get it. You might think it is obvious that
wearing your cutest outfits and baking him cookies means you
would not mind kissing him at a later date. He just thinks you are
a really nice girl, but by golly, he is just a nerd and you are a girl,
and girls do not go out with geeks. He actually probably
fantasizes about you at least every two minutes (all men do), but
would never let himself consciously hope that any of his thoughts
about you in a Xena costume have a chance of coming true. Geeks
tend to have fragile egos and prefer dreaming than risking
rejection.
It can be frustrating to throw yourself at a man with no
apparent clue you are female. In fact, it�s my pet theory we women
date assholes because we are so grateful for the attention. Sad, but
true. An asshole flirts back, often approaching you first, and goes
in for the kill quickly. After spending what feels like futile
months trying to get a geek to ask you out, you may be tempted
by one of these bold Don Juans. I know. I have too often settled
for a slick jerk looking for a trophy because he was the only man
who asked me out in a year. Trying to date a jerk can take a toll
on your ego. You begin to wonder what is wrong with you: are
you unattractive, charmless, and completely undesirable?
Trust me, it is not you. You have to be willing to put time,
patience and work into a geek. But it is worth it.
My friend Rachael�s geek sent her a new monitor after hers
blew up. Another good friend�s nerdy husband built her an
observatory on the roof of their house (which he also built,
according to her specifications). I know a girl whose
computer-programmer boyfriend sends flowers each week with
inscriptions no pretty boy could comprehend, let alone write. I
dated one geek who took care of me when I was so sick my own
mother would not come near me. In between vomiting, as he held
my hair back, he would sigh and say, �You are so beautiful.� He
meant it.
If you still need convincing and are not sure you want to
invest in a nerd, I have one more thing to say: A geek will never,
ever ask you to wait until the game is over.

Lizz Zitron is an Ironminds associate editor.

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Originally posted by Canajun, eh?:
Here's an article on the charm of geeks.
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Originally posted by snupy:
MMmmm...geeks

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Hey - what's with the plural?

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Originally posted by Canajun, eh?:
Here's an article on the charm of geeks.

http://www.ironminds.com/ironminds/issues/000417/prance.shtml... If you still need convincing and are not sure you want to
invest in a nerd, I have one more thing to say: A geek will never,
ever ask you to wait until the game is over.

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Although many geeks don't watch "the game" any will be quite annoyed if you get between them and their Doom, EverQuest, Unreal, etc. I don't see a lot of difference there.

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Originally posted by crazyarlo:
Hey, Geordie, did you know that the people in Northern England, around the NewCastle, Tynemouth and Whitley Bay area are called...........GEORDIES!!!!

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Yep. Originally they were called the Georgies for their support of King George but they came to be known as Geordie's. I am actually named after the song Geordie. I am not very fond of it though. I prefer The Mucking of Geordie's Byre and Geordie Lost his Pinker.

That is so funny I didn't know Don McLean actually had played Geordie Lost His Pinker until I just did that web search. He must have learned that song as my mom was giving him and another musician a ride to the Airport. When the other guy learned that my mom had a son named Geordie he proceeded to teach her Geordie Lost his Pinker. My mum tells me that a southern black man trying to do a cockney accent was one of the funniest things she ever heard. I guess Don must have learned the song at the same time since the concert date I linked to was shortly after that.

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Originally posted by Geordie:
Yep. Originally they were called the Georgies for their support of King George but they came to be known as Geordie's. I am actually named after the song Geordie. I am not very fond of it though. I prefer The Mucking of Geordie's Byre and Geordie Lost his Pinker.
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Originally posted by dragonman97:
So you mean you weren't named after the Chief Engineer of the Starship Enterprise (NCC-1701 [b]D)?![/B]

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Originally posted by spungo:
Hey - what's with the plural?

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Don't worry, Spungo, you're the only geek for me.....

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Originally posted by snupy:
Don't worry, Spungo, you're the only geek for me.....

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Ah...I wasn't jealous or anything, you understand... I'd just feel a bit happier if you only replied to the women on this forum.

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Originally posted by macadddikt18:
hey, enough of th egushy stuff, you are mking me sick. YOu haev e-mail do it there instead.
Nayt

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Ok, fair enough, Nayt. You're quite right. We shall endevour to refrain from such indulgence henceforth... although it was kinda fun...

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Originally posted by mephisto:
too many happy folks here. Can't stand it.

*sets four second fuse on plastique and throws to spungo. "catch boy!"
happily watches 3/4th of the forums blow away before sinking into the ground downwards back to hell.

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Ha ha - see you back down below in a few seconds, mephisto... just gotta kick St Peter in the nuts first!

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Originally posted by spungo:
Ha ha - see you back down below in a few seconds, mephisto... just gotta kick St Peter in the nuts first!

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Originally posted by nico:
PS> Guys holding a TiBook or an iPod are always cute...

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Well now... I'm holding BOTH! (Serial numbers and photos available for proof)

=bd

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why is it that these women domesticate the best in my ranks?

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Roll over... play dead... Good doggy! Have a biscut.

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As for your diminishing ranks of demons, have you considered castration?

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Originally posted by mephisto:
Castration? But you see the problem is limited not just to the male demons its the women to, what're you gonna do about them? Hell is equal opportunity you know. Plus my right hand is a very devilish woman . Gotta like a feisty femme.
Maybe i gotta make it illegal for mortals and demons to have romances. Make it punishable by making them human.

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Really???!!!
ME? Devilish? But I'm an such an angel!!!

by the way, that article is good times. good to know girls think we geeks are sexy....but i knew that already.

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Originally posted by annie:
Really???!!!
ME? Devilish? But I'm an such an angel!!!

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Originally posted by bucketofsquids:
you see...the reason we yield to the fiesty female is....well, they're so damn attractive and usually lots of fun! we can't help ourselves!

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Originally posted by miliani:
That's why some of us girls like "bad boys" as well. ;-)

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A "naughty" side is definitely sexy, but I wouldn't love my sweetie if her weren't so incredibly sweet, tender, and loving.

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Originally posted by miliani:
That's why some of us girls like "bad boys" as well. ;-)

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Originally posted by annie:
A "naughty" side is definitely sexy, but I wouldn't love my sweetie if her weren't so incredibly sweet, tender, and loving.

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Originally posted by mephisto:
Oh and you can never truly say you want a bad boy till you know you're capable of watching him come home with a sizable wound somewhere and sitting there while he calmly sews it closed with needle and thread. If you can do this, then and then only ask for a "bad boy."

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Originally posted by annie:
Darling you do know that there are various degrees and flavours of "badness", right?

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*shrug
I was talking from personal experience there. people cant see you sewing your arm up and not faint, not even my mom can..... kinda funny, i'm the one with a bloody arm and she's fainting.....
But yeah i guess....i guess....
i don't know but then I'm not exactly the typical bad boy either, so...*shrug

Well, maybe not a flood victim... But I don't place much importance on appearances. Ah, whatever. I'm more interested in comfort.

Someone who gives a **** about how they look sometimes. I don't care about faces -- but I care about pride. You can be as plain as wonder-bread, but being a sloucho with a stained t-shirt -- well, it doesn't really scream "check me out momma!"

I like to laugh too. Someone who can really laugh, a good deep laugh that comes from deep down, hearty and sincere is infinitely adorable to me.

Someone who isn't anal about everything. Who doesn't wear safety glasses all the time, or a weight belt to lift a box or two... someone who won't point out every possible negative consequence they can think of when something is presented to them.

I find independence attractive. I hate clingy guys... you know.. "Oh, spend time with me... why don't we do more stuff together..." I think independence implies trust and self confidence, and frankly, I'm sort of a oddball that likes to be able to kick friends & SO's out and to be alone -- and I don't like to be forced to worry about hurting someone's feelings or made to feel that I feel less for them, or not fulfilling someone's needs because I like time apart.

I love intelligence, that's for sure, but I don't like it when smart people take themselves so seriously that they border on smug -- injecting unwanted factoids and corrections in conversations, or the dreaded: "Actually...".

There's nothing wrong with being pure 'guy' sometimes. I appreciate the clich�d 'sensitive' guy and all, but honestly, relationships should be balanced, and I think I should have the hold on being soft and girly, and the guy should be a guy.

What I have for personal tastes doesn't relate to any of that... I happen to be with a super-geek right now... a pioneer in the Lisp community. His is some of those things I said, and isn't some of the others... it really doesn't matter. The question is: What do you think attractive is. It doesn't mean it's a necessary combination, and it also doesn't mean that if there is someone of that combination, that they wouldn't be geeks.

As for hating you... I would never hate anyone for being who they are. I just wouldn't want to jump their bones. ::smirk:: Then again, you never know... I'm with my BF... and he's practically none of the above.

Personally, a love of music and knowledge and excitment about physics. Preferably not a chemisty person. Some one who is idealistic and knowledgable in philosophy. IQ and logic are probably most important, more so than knowledge; if they can solve the problem then they can be taught (or teach me a thing or two 8)).