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Snaggy
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posted June 23, 2000 01:01     Click Here to See the Profile for Snaggy   Click Here to Email Snaggy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We all know and love Moore's Law. Now, what is your Law?

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kimagure
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posted June 23, 2000 02:29     Click Here to See the Profile for kimagure   Click Here to Email kimagure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Murphy's Law, of Course!!!!!!!!

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Buffy
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posted June 23, 2000 02:38     Click Here to See the Profile for Buffy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm... The more I'm looking forward to a movie, the higher probability it will suck!

Not always true, but when it is... it hurts!!!

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Jack William Bell
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posted June 23, 2000 02:52           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My law? "When in doubt scream and shout, wave your arms and run about!"

Or something like that...

Jack

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Pheonix
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posted June 23, 2000 03:25           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my law, People are stupid, a person may not be

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korpiq
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posted June 23, 2000 03:46           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Crashing does not happen.

If a system you use /ever/ crashes, get one that doesn't.

I think the second-to-last option was... weak and weeny. Not to mention ungeeky.

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Ian K Rolfe
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quote:
Originally posted by Jack William Bell:
My law? "When in doubt scream and shout, wave your arms and run about!"

Or something like that...

Jack


It was "When in danger, or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!" - Unknown, attributed to Robert Heinlein

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Sri Lumpa
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posted June 23, 2000 06:34     Click Here to See the Profile for Sri Lumpa   Click Here to Email Sri Lumpa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Well, it's not related to technology but...

"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws" - Tacitus

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PaulTomblin
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posted June 23, 2000 07:04           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My law? "Just when you're agonizing over whether to accept a job offer, your will get a new assignment at your current job that may not suck"

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QuarkCharm
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Any sufficiently useful tool is indistinguishable from a toy.

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BeauSabre
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posted June 23, 2000 08:07     Click Here to See the Profile for BeauSabre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Howzabout this:

"Any anamolous sounds your computer makes will only get louder the closer you get to the end of the warranty period."

BeauSabre

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"Violence is the last resort of the incompetent." - Asimov
"Damn straight. The competent don't wait that long." -Pournelle

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Masked Platypus
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I have to agree with People are stupid. Because they are, that's fundamental to all life as we know it.

My other law is "You cannot be hired by someone who has a clue about what you can accomplish with your skills. People may be dumb, but your boss is even dumber."

They aren't laws, but these predictions I made have bearing on a few of the laws mentioned above. Find them at the (underdeveloped) Department of Sin, Office of Collections. We just got it, give us a while and we'll let you vote and we'll have more material.

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greyrat
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posted June 23, 2000 08:48     Click Here to See the Profile for greyrat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1) Its not the work that's important, its the getting paid. (The unification of 2 and 3).

2) The task is only worth the amount of time YOU are willing to put into it

3) If they're paying you, don't leave until someone else will

4) Corporate America isn't so evil when a person is willing to "work" Corporate America for an acceptable return.

5) When your boss is ripping you a new one remember, He's probably ALREADY GOT one more new one than you do.

6) Workspaces are sized in inverse proportion to the amount of work that gets done in them.

7) When design is organized, development isn't. When development is organized, testing isn't. When testing is organized, design isn't.

The universe does not have laws - it has habits, and habits can be broken.

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Blackheart
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posted June 23, 2000 08:53     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law.

Especially when you work for the government.

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fish
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The intelligence of the client is inversely proportional to the complexity of the project that he thinks he needs.

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Malboeuf
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I've always tried to live by the maxim:

You're only young once, but immature behavior can last a lifetime.

It's working so far.....

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rbooks
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posted June 23, 2000 09:21           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where computers are concerned:

Nothing is _ever_ quick or easy.

(Victim of too many "quick and easy"
projects that turned out to be neither)

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pawn
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posted June 23, 2000 09:21     Click Here to See the Profile for pawn   Click Here to Email pawn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just this...

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Work is a fine way to pass the time, son...
but it just aint no way to make a living.

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Migrant Programmer
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posted June 23, 2000 09:48     Click Here to See the Profile for Migrant Programmer   Click Here to Email Migrant Programmer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good, fast, cheap.

Pick two.

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wodandieus
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The likelyhood of getting a woman into your bedroom is directly proportional to the length of time since you have changed your sheets..


Rowan collins for president 2112

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error404
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posted June 23, 2000 10:02     Click Here to See the Profile for error404   Click Here to Email error404     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True Stupidity requires substantial raw intelligence.

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the Epopt
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posted June 23, 2000 10:19     Click Here to See the Profile for the Epopt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

1st Law: If you have to advertise how baaad you are, you aren't.


2nd Law: The more eager you are to show how smart you are, the more likely it is that someone nearby really knows the subject.


3rd Law: The only relationship stronger than True Love is Compatible Neuroses.


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kevsnyde
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posted June 23, 2000 10:36     Click Here to See the Profile for kevsnyde   Click Here to Email kevsnyde     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.

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(pssst. I know the exact position & velosity of my electrons. shhhhhhh!)

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posted June 23, 2000 10:50     Click Here to See the Profile for kdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
We all know and love Moore's Law. Now, what is your Law?

Kerfoot's Law of Computing

All possible precautions are not half enough.

Roughton's Corollary

If you don't have hard copy, you don't have anything.

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Parity
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posted June 23, 2000 10:54     Click Here to See the Profile for Parity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Always look on the bright side of life, (dee-do, dee-do, dee-do-dee-do-dee-do) Always look on th ebright side of life, (dee-do, dee-do, dee-do-dee-do-dee-do). When things are jolly rotten, there's something you've forgotten! ..."
(like the rest of the lyrics, but, even if I can't remember all of it, that's my law )

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posted June 23, 2000 11:05     Click Here to See the Profile for BeauSabre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 1st Law of Advertising:

"Thou Shalt Not Believe Thine Own Hype."

Case in point: John Carmake & Daikatana, Red Hat & Linux, Microsoft & ________(fill in the blank).

BeauSabre

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Hanlons Razor:
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

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Sri Lumpa
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posted June 23, 2000 11:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Sri Lumpa   Click Here to Email Sri Lumpa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by BeauSabre:
The 1st Law of Advertising:

"Thou Shalt Not Believe Thine Own Hype."

Case in point: John Carmake & Daikatana,

Arrrrrgh, take me away from him before I kill him.

John Carmack has NOTHING to do with Daikatana beside haveing sold their maker the quake engine. It is John Romero that left Id, because he didn't agree with carmack, and was behind Daikatana.

Let me repeat this:

Carmack => Quake, Quake 2, Quake 3 == GO(O)D
Romero => Quake, ... vaporware ..., Daikatana == BAD (although I hope he will make a come back, he used to do great stuff).

Red Hat & Linux

Hype? I thought hype was when you touted something to do X or Y before it does it. Linux may not do everything (yet ) but it was working and widely used when the "hype" began (as opposed to Java or TPM).

Note, if you wan tto respond to this you should be better to begin another thread in the rant section (maybe I should).

Microsoft & ________(fill in the blank).

No comment.

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kevsnyde
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posted June 23, 2000 11:27     Click Here to See the Profile for kevsnyde   Click Here to Email kevsnyde     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the 10 Laws of Flatulence...

1st Law: The need to Pass will only occur in an elevator or room when there is only you and one(1) other.

2nd Law: Video & Bookstores will accelerate the need to Pass.

3rd Law: The flatulence will not have any noticeable or unpleasant odor, unless around another.

4th Law: The more you try to squelch the noise, the louder it is.

5th Law: Even in a room of Three(3) or more, the occupants will always discover the true originator.

6th Law: Attempting to Pass in a secluded location when around others will not work, The odor will always follow.

7th Law: The one who smelt it, ALWAYS dealt it.

8th Law: The more you are trying to make an impression is inversely proportionate to how offensive the odor is.

9th Law: Flatulence are like finger prints, although they may instill similarities, no two(2) flatulent are the same.

10th Law: the smaller it is, the hotter it is, the more concentrated the odor.

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Hcabssim
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quote:
Originally posted by Sri Lumpa:

Well, it's not related to technology but...

"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws" - Tacitus


The corralry of which is "Absolute power corrupts absolutly." So what does this say of the companies that are gaining power over the populace through information compilation? Because after all "Knowledge is power."

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Sri Lumpa
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posted June 23, 2000 11:36     Click Here to See the Profile for Sri Lumpa   Click Here to Email Sri Lumpa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by kevsnyde:
the 10 Laws of Flatulence...

It reminds me of something that happened to the sister of one of my friends.

Her father leaked a noisy flatulence in the street, but given that she was looking around to know who it was, everybody nearby acted as if they believed it was her that did it.

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ARJ
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posted June 23, 2000 11:42     Click Here to See the Profile for ARJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine, I think, is only a Theorem still, because it hasn't been conclusively proven true, but so far all my observations have pointed to it:


Life's too important to be taken seriously.


-AJ

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I don't want you to like me! Because liking leads to loving, and loving leads to reproducing, and no one reproduces with me!

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posted June 23, 2000 11:58     Click Here to See the Profile for BeauSabre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sri Lumpa:
Originally posted by BeauSabre:
The 1st Law of Advertising:

"Thou Shalt Not Believe Thine Own Hype."

Case in point: John Carmake & Daikatana,

Arrrrrgh, take me away from him before I kill him.

John Carmack has NOTHING to do with Daikatana beside haveing sold their maker the quake engine. It is John Romero that left Id, because he didn't agree with carmack, and was behind Daikatana.

Let me repeat this:

Carmack => Quake, Quake 2, Quake 3 == GO(O)D
Romero => Quake, ... vaporware ..., Daikatana == BAD (although I hope he will make a come back, he used to do great stuff).

Whatever. I was typing from memory, from an article about how this game had been hyped. One of the earlier adverts, as I remember, went something like: "John Carmack will make you his bitch."

If that's not hype, it don't exist.

All I do know is that Daikatana is the ONLY game that had a petition AGAINST bringing it to the Mac.....

Red Hat & Linux

Hype? I thought hype was when you touted something to do X or Y before it does it. Linux may not do everything (yet ) but it was working and widely used when the "hype" began (as opposed to Java or TPM).

Heh. Ask the investors about that. Red Hat, and Corel (tho Corel has plenty of other problems) both bet heavily on Linux taking off commercially near term, and it ain't come soon enough for the "dot-com" investment crowd. So count them as victims of hype, rather than instigators.

Note, if you wan tto respond to this you should be better to begin another thread in the rant section (maybe I should).

Well, I'm done.

Microsoft & ________(fill in the blank).

No comment.

Too right.

Bill Gates Law: When in doubt, FUD.

BeauSabre



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1. Murphy was an optimist
2. If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed fixing anyway...
3. Information requiring a complete change in plans will be delivered after, and only after, said plans are complete.
4. The difference between Genius and Stupidity is that Genius has its limits.

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posted June 23, 2000 12:30     Click Here to See the Profile for Royster   Click Here to Email Royster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since I am a Murphy, I am not allowed to choose a favorite law. I'm stuck with the one that shares my name. That sucks.

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posted June 23, 2000 12:32     Click Here to See the Profile for BeDope   Click Here to Email BeDope     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never overestimate the stupidity of people, but never underestimate it either.

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posted June 23, 2000 13:10     Click Here to See the Profile for RomDos   Click Here to Email RomDos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The hotter my Tube is, the greater the output. (Distance from a TTB is directly
proportional to the heat of my Tube.)

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One of the earlier adverts, as I remember, went something like: "John Carmack will make you his bitch."

Ummm, nope. That was Romero.

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posted June 23, 2000 13:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Petethelate   Click Here to Email Petethelate     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Two are applicable:

Finagle's First Law: "The perversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum."

Brooks' addendum to Murhpy's: "things will fail at the worst possible time."

Third (see Finagle's first with respect to the count): "For an intermittant failure, the probability of the symptoms appearing are inversely proportional to the availability of the person capable of repairing it." AKA Greshem's Law "When the TV repairman is present, the TV works".

Ptl

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posted June 23, 2000 14:05     Click Here to See the Profile for CyberShoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Schumacher's First Theorem


No one can ever know anything certainly. The observer is either too close to be impartial, or to distanced to know what the hell is going on.


Schumacher's Theory of Group Stupidity


The overall intelligence of a group is equal to that of its most intelligent member. The stupidity of a group is equal to the sum of the stupidity of all its members. Ergo, the larger the group, the dumber it gets. This explains beaurocracies and sporting events.


- Adam

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