BatSaintonge

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Proudly saving the world from no goodniks for a few weeks now, whenever he can drag his lazy can outa bed in the morning.

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ARJ:
Wow, thanks for such a generous pseudo-offer! That's OK, though, I already have a European chocolate distributor. Last month she gave me a bar of that weird Wonka popping chocolate! It was pretty crazy!!

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Swiss of Borg

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One of them 'no goodniks' BatSaintonge is trying to save the world from. Luckily for him also has problems crawling out of bed in the morning.
So how about clocking on at mid day, or is that still too early

BatSaintongy, is putting words in people's mouths and twisting them around until they're completely unrecognizable supposed to be your superpower?? I can't believe the cruel rumours that have been circulating about me:

• First, I allegedly have a self image problem and think that my bosoms are too small...
  
• Then, I supposedly look like Bertrand Russel...
  
• Next, I'm reportedly going to run around naked...
  
• And now I'm reputedly a kiddie pornographer???

And it is documentably evident that I have neither said nor done any of the above!!

Next thing you know, I'll purportedly be getting married to Prince William in a secret underground Antarctic government installation, with Bat Boy as the best man, and the world's fattest baby as the ring bearer.

Or even worse, in the GeekFamous special edition, I'll have been presumably caught in an illicit bigamy scandal with CowboyNeal and Emmett.

I feel like I need a publicist here.

I can't handle the stress. I've made my decision, and I'm going to become the sidekick of...

Artie, the Strongest Man in the World

He's been companionless ever since he & Little Pete parted ways in "Farewell, My Little Viking."

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Androbin: Booting the grime of this world in the crotch.*

*see Sheila Take a Bow by the Smiths

Aha! You see as an Evil Overlord I do not have to work too hard to split up the world's first duo of superzero's (all right one zero and one very nice sidekick, whom I have been trying to lure over to the AI side).

They do it themselves

Good luck in your new career Androbin, but remember that the offer is still open, an Evil Overlord needs a good trusted lieutenant.

P.S. You mean to say that the bit about Prince William is NOT true

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I am Swiss of Borg. Holes are irrelevant, cheese will be assimilated!

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supaboy wrote:
But I'm thoroughly enjoying it anyway.

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I've been getting a laugh out of it too. It's a bit like an episode of corny Batman show that was filmed with a badly rewritten script from Beveryly Hills 90210.

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Androbin: Booting the grime of this world in the crotch.*

Beats the news! Keep it up

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Originally posted by ARJ:
I'm beginning to wonder if I'm actually the sidekick of the Weekly World News (7th most circulated newspaper in the world!).

BatSaintongy, is putting words in people's mouths and twisting them around until they're completely unrecognizable supposed to be your superpower??

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I can't believe the cruel rumours that have been circulating about me:

• First, I allegedly have a self image problem and think that my bosoms are too
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Androbin, it was you that first said you thought of yourself as "stick figure girl."

You also complained about guys dropping you when they saw a babe with more cleavage. While that turned out to be a misunderstanding, I was not alone in drawing the conclusion that you meant "a woman with larger breasts."

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Then, I supposedly look like Bertrand Russel...

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On the contrary, ever since you insisted you look like Betrand Russell, the model for the Mad Hatter from Alice in Wonderland, I have repeatedly insisted that you look nothing like the distinguished mathematician, philospher, and dirty old man Lord B.R. I don't know how you got the idea you look like him, but I've been trying to talk you out of it.

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Next, I'm reportedly going to run around naked...

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A small misunderstanding, due perhaps to your deliberate ambiguity. You wrote something that implied that you wouldn't be donning your sidekick costume anymore, and
since it is against the sidekick's code to superhero in street clothes, that suggested you would be fighting evil in the buff.

In any case, I didn't say you were going to run around saving the world in the altogether, I asked if you were, and suggested a drawback (cuts and abrasions). When you clarified your remarks, I expressed relief that you wouldn't be so vulnerable to bad weather.

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And now I'm reputedly a kiddie pornographer???

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Well, I must admit I did say that, but you were the one who posted the topless photo .

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Next thing you know, I'll purportedly be getting married to Prince William in a secret underground Antarctic government installation, with Bat Boy as the best man, and the world's fattest baby as the ring bearer.

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That hasn't been said by me, though my spies do tell me that if the remarriage comes off, Fergie does want you for made of honor.

If I miss the ceremony (I think it's one of my days to fight evil solo), say hello to my old friend Bat Boy, please.

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Or even worse, in the GeekFamous special edition, I'll have been presumably caught in an illicit bigamy scandal with CowboyNeal and Emmett.

I feel like I need a publicist here.

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Hey, whom you marry is none of my business, just so long as they realize I may keep you out late foiling Swiss Evildoers.

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I can't handle the stress. I've made my decision, and I'm going to become the sidekick of...

Artie, the Strongest Man in the World

He's been companionless ever since he & Little Pete parted ways in "Farewell, My Little Viking."

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Originally posted by Swiss Mercenary:
Aha! You see as an Evil Overlord I do not have to work too hard to split up the world's first duo of superzero's (all right one zero and one very nice sidekick, whom I have been trying to lure over to the AI side).

They do it themselves

Good luck in your new career Androbin, but remember that the offer is still open, an Evil Overlord needs a good trusted lieutenant.

P.S. You mean to say that the bit about Prince William is NOT true

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Hah! You need to review the evil overlord rules , with special attention to rule #98.

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Originally posted by supaboy:
Shouldn't this really be tagged "The Off-topic that will not die"?

But I'm thoroughly enjoying it anyway.

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But that's just the point -- it goes On and On and On ...

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Originally posted by ARJ:
I'll keep going, too, as long as you keep encouraging me!

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Not to get into that again, but perhaps you might want to ask someone whose judgement you trust how you look in all pink.

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Originally posted by Saintonge:
But that's just the point -- it goes On and On and On ...

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Just throw my $.02 in, and keep the topic flowing - in a totally different direction of course (not to mention adding to my # of posts), here is a link I found.

Btw, do any of you look like that? I sure don't!

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Originally posted by tafkact:
here is a link I found.

Btw, do any of you look like that? I sure don't!

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Later: Hm, no that doesn't look much like me. I do of course wear glasses, and I admit, my teeth are somewhat yellowed, but not so pointy. And my ears are much smaller and rounder, my nose is shorter, and I'm not grey.

I don't look much like the guy, either.

Of course, your random nerd may differ. The one with the Zima has a certain family resemblence ...

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Originally posted by Saintonge:
Let's see, we
started with a dispute about the virtues of editing threads, and ended the
second installment with Andrea posting
baby-porn . What will we enounter this page? Tune in frequently, same geektime, same geekchannel!

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Well, given that apparently one of my posts incited you to originate what seem sto be an ol ddiscussion on this board and in an attempt to make it come back to this topic again here I go:

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Saintonge:
I don't know what makes you two so fond of spelling errors, html errors, missing words, etc., but I wish to dis-asociate myself from yourall position!

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Well, I am not fond of any of it but except in an extreme case that I recently encountered where the spelling and grammar was so bad that it almost gave me an headache to read it; except for this case I always automagically correct the word when I see them, and if it don't work automatically I reread the sentence. Of course this is also due because I am slightly dislexic and when i read some perfectly formed text I sometimes miss a word here or there and took the habit to add it mentally, although somtimes I add another word that change the sentence.

So although I do not like too much this kind of errors I can and prefer to live with them rather than being able to give too many people editing capabilities.

of course if we can have the best of both worlds I am all for it.

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Saintonge (again):
But sometimes I don't notice a mis-spelling till after someone has replied to it.

I mean, if you're desperate to keep a true and accurate record, you can copy these things and store them on your hard disk.

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I tend to strongly disagree.

If I love computers it is because I am a lazy bastard that love having a machine doing repetitive jobs for me. Given that the original post is available I don't see any reason to have people save them to disk to keep them.

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Swiss Mercenary:
Me three, me three. As the '/' on a Swiss-French keyboard is over the '7' (IOW: -7), I quite often find that the HTML tags are not closed and so it helps to edit my messages or you would get all<7b> the text in bold or all<7i> the text in italics.

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I agree that HTML/UBB errors are probably the most annoying. If I missppeled a wrod or tow this is annoying but doesn't affect the remaining text. OTOH HTML tags that are not closed can be quite annoying.

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I don't recall seeing any threads with obvious holes in them.

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Just because something never happened doesn't mean it cannot happen.

Right now things work because we are not too numerous but if things began to grow to slashdot size I am not sure the editing feature would be a good idea.

Let's just imagine a troll that post a message to get moderated at +5 and then modify it to talk about Miss Portman, Hot Grits and petrification. Of course he would then be moderated down, but all the moderation points to do that would have been better spent elsewhere.

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Supaboy:
Originally posted by Saintonge:
Teleny did think about deleting posts from the "Historical Inacuracy" thread

Does anyone else find this ironic?

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Well, I did, given that it was to express this irony that I posted the post that incited Saintonge to begin this thread.

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Supaboy about the messages to indicate a modified post:

Maybe if the font got set to Flyspeck 3 for those messages? Or maybe another little icon that shows it's been tweaked?

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I agree

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Buffy:
You know it's a real geeky board when the workings of the board itself becomes such a hot topic!

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Well, this is also a tribute to the team doing it. We wouldn't discuss it if we didn't appreciate their work.

In general I think that the idea that somebody expressed (and I don't remember who) to have a link to the unedited version of the post would be a good idea.

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Originally posted by Sri Lumpa:

Well, given that apparently one of my posts incited you to originate what seems to be an old discussion on this board and in an attempt to make it come back to this topic again

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Stay on topic?!?!?! Boy, you Frenchies are stone weird.

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Saintonge:

But sometimes I don't notice a mis-spelling till after someone has replied to it.
I mean, if you're desperate to keep a true and accurate record, you can copy these things and store them on your hard disk.

Sri Lumpa:

I tend to strongly disagree.

If I love computers it is because I am a lazy bastard that loves having a machine doing repetitive jobs for me. Given that the original post is available I don't see any reason to have people save them to disk to keep them.

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That was partly sarcasm, Sri. I don't expect you to do that, but then, I don't see why you're so worked up about the issue in the first place.

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Swiss Mercenary:

Me three, me three. As the '/' on a Swiss-French keyboard is over the '7' (IOW: -7), I quite often find that the HTML tags are not closed and so it helps to edit my messages or you would get all<7b> the text in bold or all<7i> the text in italics.


Sri Lumpa:

I agree that HTML/UBB errors are probably the most annoying. If I misspelled a word or two, this is annoying, but doesn't affect the remaining text. OTOH HTML tags that are not closed can be quite annoying.

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Yes. In addition, unlike /. we can't preview our postings, so it can be almost impossible to get something looking the way we want it to without editing.

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Saintonge:

I don't recall seeing any threads with obvious holes in them.

Sri Lumpa:

Just because something never happened doesn't mean it cannot happen.

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I think this is the essence of our disagreement. You worry about a theoretical future danger, while I'm willing to wait and let the Moderators deal with the problem if and when it actually arises.

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Sri Lumpa:

Right now things work because we are not too numerous but if things began to grow to slashdot size I am not sure the editing feature would be a good idea.

Let's just imagine a troll that posts a message to get moderated at +5 and then modify it to talk about Miss Portman, Hot Grits and petrification. Of course he would then be moderated down, but all the moderation points to do that would have been better spent elsewhere.

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If this site grows to /. size, I'm sure Nitro and Snaggy can find some eminently fair minded, volunteer moderators to read all the posts, and just throw out the trolls. Or maybe with all the money they'd be making then, they could hire people to do it. Or think of something else.

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Sri Lumpa:

In general I think that the idea that somebody expressed (and I don't remember whom) to have a link to the unedited version of the post would be a good idea.

Ok, I stop here before Netscape crashes, or somebody kicks me out because they booked the computer

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Uh, Sri, the reason they're called personal computers is because you're supposed to buy your own.

And if Netscape isn't reliable, there is an Evil Empire that will supply a better browser for free, as well as several other free alternatives

Anyway, I could live with a little 'edited' icon, or a link to the original version, but I just don't think it's worth worrying about. So why don't you historical record fanatics write some code to do this?

Hmm, rare situation... I agree with Saintonge completely. (Does this mean I have to give up aspiring super villain status? :confused

In the absense of preview software (and rebuilding the Fora on Slash code doesn't sound any fun), I'll happily use the edit facility. If I make a spelling mistake that really bothers me, I'll fix it right away.

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Originally posted by Petethelate:
Saintonge said: Anyway, I could live with a little 'edited' icon, or a link to the original version, but I just don't think it's worth worrying about. So why don't you historical record fanatics write some code to do this?

Hmm, rare situation... I agree with Saintonge completely. (Does this mean I have to give up aspiring super villain status? )

In the absense of preview software (and rebuilding the Fora on Slash code doesn't sound any fun), I'll happily use the edit facility. If I make a spelling mistake that really bothers me, I'll fix it right away.

Pete

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Petethelate
Hmm, rare situation... I agree with Saintonge completely. (Does this mean I have to give up aspiring super villain status?

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Remember that as long as you condescend and sneer back at BatSaintonge you are considered and honorary member of the Evil AI society (meets most friday nights in "Mr Pickwick's Pub", Geneva.
Actual membership: 1)

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Ex-Lowlie and proud
I am Swiss of Borg. Holes are irrelevant, cheese will be assimilated!

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Originally posted by Sri Lumpa:

Stay on topic?!?!?! Boy, you Frenchies are stone weird.

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LOL. There must be somebody to put all that order here.

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That was partly sarcasm, Sri. I don't expect you to do that, but then, I don't see why you're so worked up about the issue in the first place.

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Well. Right now I don't have any real problem, just some prospective problems that slightly annoy me. But don't worry that doesn't prevent me from sleeping at night (well, at least this doesn't prevent me).

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Yes. In addition, unlike /. we can't preview our postings, so it can be almost impossible to get something looking the way we want it to without editing.

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I agree.

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disagreement. You worry about a theoretical future danger, while I'm willing to wait and let the Moderators deal with the problem if and when it actually arises.

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You're right on the point and that disagreement arise because you're too english "wait and see", while I am too French

I prefer to prevent rather than to heal. BTW that's what I use for my health and I didn't see a doctor for a disease for... well at least 5 or 6 years.

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If this site grows to /. size, I'm sure Nitro and Snaggy can find some eminently fair minded, volunteer moderators to read all the posts, and just throw out the trolls.

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yeah, I would just prefer Nitro and Snaggy to find a way to avoid the problem and enjoy their millions, but of course I suppose you were kidding.

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Or maybe with all the money they'd be making then, they could hire people to do it. Or think of something else.
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Being paid to read the AY2K board? Excellent! Could I still read /. during company time?

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Uh, Sri, the reason they're called personal computers is because you're supposed to buy your own.

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Ok, I have my home in the east of France and I am currently student in Portsmouth, south of England. I came her by train and Ferry and I don't really see me taking my 17'' and my tower in the train, especially with all the other stuff I need to survive one year of the English weather

Furthermore, even if I had my computer here he wouldn't have Internet access. Hey! Why pay Internet access on a phone line when I have the University that provide me with a better one for free. So I need to reinstall mozilla almost everytime I get a computer, which is a pita.

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And if Netscape isn't reliable, there is an Evil Empire that will supply a better browser for free, as well as several other free alternatives

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Yeah, I am eagerly waiting for Mozilla (which is already quite good). I don't use IE on principle. I agree that it is better than Netscape right now but I prefer to stay with it for the time being because of some "business" practice of MS.

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Anyway, I could live with a little 'edited' icon, or a link to the original version, but I just don't think it's worth worrying about. So why don't you historical record fanatics write some code to do this?

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Me too. A link to the original version would be good IMNAAHO.

Why do I not write some code to do it?

2 answer:

1. I don't have the sources.

2. I don't have the time, including the time to teach me what would be necessary to do it.

Oh, and a 3rd for free:

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Originally posted by Saintonge:
Fear not, Pete, you still get to be a supervillian.

Just remember, the game is rigged, so you also get to lose every time.

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Shouldn't the game be rigged in favor of the villains? After all THEY are the villains, not you. Or is your superhero thing just a cover to make up for you true plan... to conquer the world!

I guess I blew up your evil scheme

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Androbin, it was you that first said you thought of yourself as "stick figure girl."

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Oh, and I suppose you've never jokingly admitted to imperfections in your appearance? Hmm...?? I think not!! Does that mean you have a self-image problem? No, it means you're a human being with a sense of humor!

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On the contrary, ever since you insisted you look like Betrand Russell...

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And where, O omniscient one, did I insist that I looked like Bertrand Russell? I'd be highly interested to see the empirical evidence, especially considering I never did.

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Hmm, let me check your contract -- Yes, you are allowed to leave me and sidekick for others, but remember, you aren't allowed to take the Androbin costume with you. Also, I hear he doesn't pay as well as me, and his dental plan is lousy, so I'd think it over carefully before I burned any bridges, especially if I were still crossing them.

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Is that a threat? Are you, honorable, noble, and trustworthy BatSantoige, fighter of evil and champion of good, attempting to extort me?? (See, two can play this game ) Forcing me to be costumeless if I terminate my contract-- how can I be I sidekick if I don't have a sidekick costume? It's just cruel, is what it is. Good thing I'm a member of the Sidekick Workers of America (SWA).

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Androbin: Booting the grime of this world in the crotch.*

*see Sheila Take a Bow by the Smiths

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Originally posted by Saintonge:
Also, I hear he doesn't pay as well as me, and his dental plan is lousy, so I'd think it over carefully before I burned any bridges, especially if I were still crossing them.

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Is that affiliated with Local 12 of the VT&SU*?

* Assuming I remember quickly (aspiring supervillainy does terrible things to the memory), that's the "Villains, Thieves and Scoundrals Union". Apologies to Jay Ward.

"This time for sure!" == Bullwinkle the Moose

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Originally posted by Sri Lumpa:
You're right on the point and that disagreement arise because you're too english "wait and see", while I am too French.

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ENGLISH???!!!! I'm German/Irish/French 100% USAmerican, buddy. We ain't been English for over two hundred years!

*SHEESH*

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Originally posted by Saintonge:

If this site grows to /. size, I'm sure Nitro and Snaggy can find some eminently fair minded, volunteer moderators to read all the posts, and just throw out the trolls.

Or maybe with all the money they'd be making then, they could hire people to do it. Or think of something else.

Sri Lumpa:

Being paid to read the AY2K board? Excellent! Could I still read /. during company time?

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Hey, Frenchie, I got dibs on the AY2K paid moderator job!

But if I need an assistant, you're first on the list.

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Saintonge:

Uh, Sri, the reason they're called personal computers is because you're supposed to BUY YOUR OWN.
Sri Lumpa:

OK, I have my home in the east of France and I am currently student in Portsmouth, south of England. I came her by train and Ferry and I don't really see me taking my 17'' and my tower in the train, especially with all the other stuff I need to survive one year of the English weather

Furthermore, even if I had my computer here he wouldn't have Internet access. Hey! Why pay Internet access on a phone line when I have the University that provide me with a better one for free. So I need to reinstall mozilla almost everytime I get a computer, which is a pita.

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I was going to read you out for whining about the trivial trouble of lugging your computer around (what kind of geek minds that?), but I you're stealing computer time from the University to avoid the outrageous English phone rates. "Never mind."

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Saintonge
And if Netscape isn't reliable, there is an Evil Empire that will supply a better browser for free, as well as several other free alternatives

[/b]Sri Lumpa:

Yeah, I am eagerly waiting for Mozilla (which is already quite good). I don't use IE on principle. I agree that it is better than Netscape right now but I prefer to stay with it for the time being because of some "business" practice of MS.

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Ah, it's good to see someone willing to suffer for his principles. Especially when it's someone else!

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Saintionge

Anyway, I could live with a little 'edited' icon, or a link to the original version, but I just don't think it's worth worrying about. So why don't you historical record fanatics write some code to do this?

[/b]Sri Lumpa:

Me too. A link to the original version would be good IMNAAHO.

Why do I not write some code to do it?

2 answer:

1. I don't have the sources.

2. I don't have the time, including the time to teach me what would be necessary to do it.

Oh, and a 3rd for free:

3. I'm too lazy

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That last was a joke. I've known geeks whom would have immediately started writing such code, never thinking about the amount of time it took, because it was coding, and therefore fun, while saving things to disc would be work.

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Originally posted by ARJ:

In order to completely ignore any sense of relevance or order that was attempting to restore itself, I submit the following.

Originally posted by Saintonge:

Androbin, it was you that first said you thought of yourself as "stick figure girl."
ARJ:

Oh, and I suppose you've never jokingly admitted to imperfections in your appearance? Hmm...?? I think not!! Does that mean you have a self-image PROBLEM? No, it means you're a human being with a sense of humor!

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On the contrary, ever since you insisted you look like Betrand Russell...

And where, O omniscient one, did I INSIST that I looked like Bertrand Russell? I'd be highly interested to see the empirical evidence, especially considering I never did.

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But it's disappointing to see you think I'm omniscient. I have been known to make mistakes, very rarely, true, but it's happened.

Now, about your delusion that you look like Bertrand Russell. I admit that's a slighly obscure reference. You said you preferred to stay at the Mad Tea Party, with the Dormouse and March Hare. So that means you think of yourself as the Mad Hatter, the only other person to stay at the Tea Party.

Now, based on your photos, you don't look a thing like the Mad Hatter. Bertrand Russell, however, was a dead ringer for him.

So, unless those photos are fakes, I do hope you'll stop thinking of yourself as looking like a weird, male, cartoon drawn in the 19th century. (It is of course obvious that any woman who thinks of herself as looking like THAT is either very ugly or has a terrible self-image problem ).

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Hmm, let me check your contract -- Yes, you are allowed to leave me and sidekick for others, but remember, you aren't allowed to take the Androbin costume with you. Also, I hear he doesn't pay as well as me, and his dental plan is lousy, so I'd think it over carefully before I burned any bridges, especially if I were still crossing them.

Is that a THREAT? Are you, honorable, noble, and trustworthy BatSantoige, fighter of evil and champion of good, ATTEMPTING TO EXTORT ME?? (See, two can play this game ) Forcing me to be costumeless if I terminate my contract-- how can I be a sidekick if I don't have a sidekick costume? It's just cruel, is what it is. Good thing I'm a member of the Sidekick Workers of America (SWA).
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*see Sheila Take a Bow by the Smiths

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And very good too see you recognize some of my many other fine qualities, though somehow you forgot to my mention my outstanding humility, of which I am very proud .

No, of course I would never attempt to extortion, sweet ex-sidekick. But I was attempting to point out some of the disadvantages of leaving my employment for another position.

As I hold the trademark on the Androbin design, if you wish to sidekick for Artie, with his low pay and bad dental plan, you will have to buy a new costume.

If I get a new sidekick (the position is still open, *HINT HINT*), we'll talk about buying the Androbin costume from you, minus retailoring expenses and of course something off because it's been used. It's all in accordance with the standard superhero & sidekick practice.

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Originally posted by Sri Lumpa:
Shouldn't the game be rigged in favor of the villains? After all THEY are the villains, not you. Or is your superhero thing just a cover to make up for you true plan... to conquer the world!

I guess I blew up your evil scheme

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The game is rigged against the villians because that's the nature of comic book reality here in Geekham City. If you don't like it, go complain to DC Comics!

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Originally posted by Saintonge:
If anyone can tell me why the "bold tags are not working in this post, I'd appreciated it.....

.......If I get a new sidekick (the position is still open, *HINT HINT*), we'll talk about buying the Androbin costume from you, minus retailoring expenses and of course something off because it's been used. It's all in accordance with the standard superhero & sidekick practice.

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A) ya gotta close the "[ b ]" with a "[ /b ]", no?

B) what are the requirements for the position? I'm lookin' fer a job....and sidekick sounds good for now.

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Things are always darkest... just before you pull your head out of your butt, void where prohibited, keep away from flame, surcharge(s) may apply.

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Originally posted by tafkact:
A) ya gotta close the "[ b ]" with a "[ /b ]", no?

B) what are the requirements for the position? I'm lookin' fer a job....and sidekick sounds good for now.

#think
at least long enough to be able to find your weaknesses and overthrow you for my own evil plan. bwahahahahahehehehhohoho!
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Your prompt aid shows you have the some of the right qualifications for sidekick, but you seem to have an attitude problem. We will look further for applicants at this time. Thank you for your interst in the postition.

Insincerely,
the Management

P.S., later: I knew the tags had to be closed, but somehow I overlooked the fact that they weren't. Too many quotes withing quotes.

Where'd THAT come from?

ahhhh, editing.....the topic that will NEVER die!

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Originally posted by Saintonge:
ENGLISH???!!!! I'm German/Irish/French 100% USAmerican, buddy. We ain't been English for over two hundred years!

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You're German/Irish/French 100% USAmerican???

You're a bastard then. In what does it makes you different from an Englishman

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Originally posted by Saintonge:

Hey, Frenchie, I got dibs on the AY2K paid moderator job!

But if I need an assistant, you're first on the list.

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I have to protest. You are posting too much to be an objective moderator. You should be forbidden either of moderating or of posting

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Saintonge:

I was going to read you out for whining about the trivial trouble of lugging your computer around (what kind of geek minds that?), but I you're stealing computer time from the University to avoid the outrageous English phone rates. "Never mind."

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Stealing? No. IRC is forbidden but technically this is not chatting .

BTW, not only would have had to carry my PC (tower and 17") but also my (portable) Hi-fi, my CD's, my books, my CD-ROMS,... I may be crazy but I am not suicidal (given that I haven't met you in RL yet ).

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Saintonge
Ah, it's good to see someone willing to suffer for his principles. Especially when it's someone else!

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Hey, a luckily that a lot of people put their principle over the law/the easiest path during the last world war. You should get some civic sense.

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Saintonge:

That last was a joke.

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You can joke? What a discovery. I thought that Americans forgot to take the british the sense of humor when they kicked the britons out

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I've known geeks whom would have immediately started writing such code, never thinking about the amount of time it took, because it was coding, and therefore fun, while saving things to disc would be work.

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He:

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
depends on the unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw

And don't forget that Linus never knew how complex it would become when he began Linux. See what he did?

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Originally posted by Saintonge:
ENGLISH???!!!! I'm German/Irish/French 100% USAmerican, buddy. We ain't been English for over two hundred years!

You're German/Irish/French 100% USAmerican???

You're a bastard then. In what does it makes you different from an Englishman?

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But I'm not a limey bastard, I'm a USAmerican one! The brits insisted there was a difference, and that they wouldn't associate with us on the basis of equality. One side had to be inferior. So we threw them out, and, after a short, 140 year preparation, we showed them whom would be superior, and whom inferior.

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Originally posted by Saintonge:

Hey, Frenchie, I got dibs on the AY2K paid moderator job!

But if I need an assistant, you're first on the list.

I have to protest. You are posting too much to be an objective moderator. You should be forbidden either of moderating or of posting

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We'll talk about that after Nitrozac and Snaggy make the job offer.

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Saintonge:
Ah, it's good to see someone willing to suffer for his principles. Especially when it's someone else!

Hey, a luckily that a lot of people put their principle over the law/the easiest path during the last world war. You should get some civic sense.

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I wasn't yet alive during the last World War.

And if you want to lecture about sense and opposing evil, remember it was US that defeated the Evil Empire, aka the ex-Soviet Union.

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Saintonge:

That last was a joke.

You can joke? What a discovery. I thought that Americans forgot to take the british sense of humor when they kicked the britons out

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Wrong. As one of my high school history teachers remarked about early American colonists "They keept the sabbath, and whatever else they could get their hands on." What we let the British keep was the descent snobbery that eventually cost them their Empire. *GLOAT*

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Stealing? No. IRC is forbidden but technically this is not chatting .

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Originally posted by Saintonge:
But I'm not a limey bastard, I'm a USAmerican one! The brits insisted there was a difference, and that they wouldn't associate with us on the basis of equality. One side had to be inferior. So we threw them out, and, after a short, 140 year preparation, we showed them whom would be superior, and whom inferior.

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Yup, and we helped you kick them out.

We may have many differences but we have a lot in common too (I am speaking about French and American here), kicking English being one of them

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I wasn't yet alive during the last World War.

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This isn't an excuse for your lack of civic sense. What will you do when WW3 comes?

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And if you want to lecture about sense and opposing evil, remember it was US that defeated the Evil Empire, aka the ex-Soviet Union.

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Well, it's true that the Star Wars thing was excellent, but apparently Gorbatchev was a reformist anyway, so we probably would have ended up there, only it would have taken more time and maybe the transition would have been smoother.

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Wrong. As one of my high school history teachers remarked about early American colonists "They keept the sabbath, and whatever else they could get their hands on." What we let the British keep was the descent snobbery that eventually cost them their Empire. *GLOAT*

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Originally posted by Saintonge:
But I'm not a limey bastard, I'm a USAmerican one! The brits insisted there was a difference, and that they wouldn't associate with us on the basis of equality. One side had to be inferior. So we threw them out, and, after a short, 140 year preparation, we showed them whom would be superior, and whom inferior.

Originally posted by Sri Lumpa:

Yup, and we helped you kick them out.

We may have many differences but we have a lot in common too (I am speaking about French and American here), kicking English being one of them

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Yeah, I remember, I mentioned it on another thread.

But since they became a democracy, it's forgiveness time.

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Saintonge: I wasn't yet alive during the last World War.

Sri Lumpa:

This isn't an excuse for your lack of civic sense. What will you do when WW3 comes?

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Move to Mars.

Seriously, I'd fight to defend my country, but at the moment it doesn't look like it will ever come to that again.

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And if you want to lecture about sense and opposing evil, remember it was US that defeated the Evil Empire, aka the ex-Soviet Union.I wasn't yet alive during the last World War.

Sri Lumpa:

Well, it's true that the Star Wars thing was excellent, but apparently Gorbatchev was a reformist anyway, so we probably would have ended up there, only it would have taken more time and maybe the transition would have been smoother.

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But would Gorbachev have even been in power if there hadn't been a sense that the system was in serious trouble? And would the USSR have been in such a bind if they hadn't spent so much helping out North Viet Nam, Korea, China (at one time)?

We don't know, and I don't see how we can know. What matters is, starting with Truman we decided to contain them till they weren't a threat anymore, and it worked. Got a little nerve racking at times, but it worked.

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Saintonge: Wrong. As one of my high school history teachers remarked about early American colonists "They kept the sabbath, and whatever else they could get their hands on." What we let the British keep was the descent snobbery that eventually cost them their Empire. *GLOAT*

Sri Lumpa:

I'm not sure about that. American politics (the one that matter in this case) seems to have taken it, but fortunately the American themselves don't seem to have it FWIK.

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Originally posted by Saintonge:
But would Gorbachev have even been in power if there hadn't been a sense that the system was in serious trouble? And would the USSR have been in such a bind if they hadn't spent so much helping out North Viet Nam, Korea, China (at one time)?

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I'm not sure that American should trump the Viet-Nam as a victory against communism. French either BTW.

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We don't know, and I don't see how we can know. What matters is, starting with Truman we decided to contain them till they weren't a threat anymore, and it worked. Got a little nerve racking at times, but it worked.

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So what? WE did that with England for a millenary

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Sri Lumpa:

I'm not sure about that. American politics (the one that matter in this case) seems to have taken it, but fortunately the American themselves don't seem to have it FWIK.

Saintonge:
You've lost me here. I don't know what you mean.

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Originally posted by Saintonge:
But would Gorbachev have even been in power if there hadn't been a sense that the system was in serious trouble? And would the USSR have been in such a bind if they hadn't spent so much helping out North Viet Nam, Korea, China (at one time)?

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Originally posted by Sri Lumpa:
I'm not sure that American should trump the Viet-Nam as a victory against communism. French either BTW.

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In the Seventythree Years War, Korea was a stalemated battle, and Viet Nam a lost one, but one can make a good argument that it was a Phyric victory for the USSR. They spent a lot of money they couldn't afford shipping tanks and trucks and ammo to Viet Nam.

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Saintonge:
We don't know, and I don't see how we can know. What matters is, starting with Truman we decided to contain them till they weren't a threat anymore, and it worked. Got a little nerve racking at times, but it worked.

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Sri Lumpa:
So what? WE did that with England for a millenary

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You kept away for an article of women's clothing? No, wait a minute, that's millinery.

Ah, you meant millennium. One of English's trickier adaptations of Latin, that.

Anyway, last time I looked, while France was "containing" England for a millennium , it conquered Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Canada, Eastern Louisiana, a bunch of Caribean islands, and, at peak, 1/4th of the world, at the cost of US. They didn't start losing major real estate till they became your allies.

While we were containing the USSR, they got Indo-China, at the cost of their existence.
HURRAY!

I think les Etats Unis win this contest on points.

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Sri Lumpa:

I'm not sure about that. American politics (the one that matter in this case) seems to have taken it, but fortunately the American themselves don't seem to have it FWIK.

Saintonge:
You've lost me here. I don't know what you mean.

Sri Lumpa:

I mean that American politicians (Clinton and al (gore?)) look like they have taken the "descent snobbery that cost them (britons) their empire" with them although American themselves seem OK.

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I don't think that Pres. Penis's adventures in Haiti, Sudan, and Serbia have anything to do with descent snobbery. I'm not sure what they DO have to do with, aside from his frequently pressing need to distract the public from his latest public disgrace (hmm, and now he may be disbarred; LOOK OUT WORLD, HERE COMES MORE BOMBS!). I'm not sure if he knows what they're about, either.

The Brits, on the other hand, were so intent on drawing distinctions between "Britons" and "colonials" that they lost us. Learning from them, our colonies all became states, on a basis of full equality with the original thirteen (except for some small change we picked up around the time of the Spanish-USAmerican War, and those of them aren't independent could be, or become states, if they really insisted on it).

If Britain had given seats in Parliment to their colonies, (as they were urged to do with us, btw) they'd probably still have them. Now that would be an intesting world (hmm, may be an alternate history novel there).

And now, I think we should bid this thread a fond farewell, and move here. Loading time has gotten excessive again.

Quick, Snaggy, the padlock!