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[b] I was leaning towards downright retarded...

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Originally posted by Twinkle Toes:
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[b] I was leaning towards downright retarded...

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Put on your flame-retardant vests, chaps. Storm's a brewin'.

This one I'd let go, it won't accomplish anything except make you feel bad.

I was in a particularly foul mood when I wrote that last post. It wasn't really meant to be rude. *shrug*

But.....feel free to hold it against me as long as you like.

//Thom//

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Please keep in mind that I am male, and can't know "The Rules" or they will change "The Rules" as per the last rule (the only rule I know) which is "If any guy learns The Rules, The Rules must change to keep them guessing." So, this is just my take on one matter, please don't kill me for my position in this matter.

Also, the attempt to impress them, I think, is only a bad thing when it covers up who you are. I managed to stay attached for 6 continuous years by trying to make the girl happy.... Not so much impress them, but trying to suprise them and keep things intresting... Picknics in the living room, sparkling white grape juice (as I don't drink) and roses whenever I knew it was a tough week, bending over backward to cheer them up.... The problem with trying to impress a girl, in my opinion is that it becomes a show of "I'm so great, you want to be with me...." and if there is anything we learned from human endevour the other person will like you more if you are more interested in them then your self "What can I do for you? How was your day?" Ever book in being a better salesman, better bussinessman or better manager tells you to treat your employees, your clients and your bosses with this kind of respect focused on them. Why then do feel we need to turn the attention of romantic relations on ourselves?

GameMaster, I'm taking advice from you now. You certainly seem to know what you're doing.

Well, that, and your philosophy about just trying to make them happy goes along with my personal ideas about relationships (That is, if I were to ever actually get into a relationship).

I bow to you, oh wise Sensai.

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Originally posted by GameMaster:
Please keep in mind that I am male, and can't know "The Rules" or they will change "The Rules" as per the last rule (the only rule I know) which is "If any guy learns The Rules, The Rules must change to keep them guessing." So, this is just my take on one matter, please don't kill me for my position in this matter.

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Also, the attempt to impress them, I think, is only a bad thing when it covers up who you are. I managed to stay attached for 6 continuous years by trying to make the girl happy.... Not so much impress them, but trying to suprise them and keep things intresting... Picknics in the living room, sparkling white grape juice (as I don't drink) and roses whenever I knew it was a tough week, bending over backward to cheer them up.... The problem with trying to impress a girl, in my opinion is that it becomes a show of "I'm so great, you want to be with me...." and if there is anything we learned from human endevour the other person will like you more if you are more interested in them then your self "What can I do for you? How was your day?" Ever book in being a better salesman, better bussinessman or better manager tells you to treat your employees, your clients and your bosses with this kind of respect focused on them. Why then do feel we need to turn the attention of romantic relations on ourselves?

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I never understood why so many of my guy friends seemed to be drawn to the girls who mandated being "impressed" all the time.. Is being with someone really worth trying to impress them all the time? Yes, it is nice to get flowers or be taken out to dinner if you've had a bad day, or even if you haven't, but just having someone to sit around and talk with in sweatpants is nice too. Whey we feel the need to turn the attention of romantic interests on ourselves is probably because we want them to take the interest in us... It is flattering to have someone be interested in you, and from my experience, if you are trying to get into a relationship, the hard part is usually getting them to respond. You already know you want to be with them, but you have to convince them that they want to be with you. Why do male birds have brighter feathers than their female counterparts? To be noticed. To impress the female birds.. Its the same idea.. I don't know, I'm tired, so I'm probly not making sense but personally, I'd take sitting around in pajamas with someone i could have interesting conversations with over flowers any day....

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Originally posted by GameMaster:
Alright, first, most girls on this board are admitted geeks, and so their perspective on intelligence isn't the same as most of the girls out there. However, your over generalizing guys. I don't think the average girl cares one way or another about if we read, I think it bothers pop-culture warped fragments of society when we read things that require extra thought, so yes Neitchize is a turn off to pop-culture. Neichize is also quite conratversial and thus a lot of geek girls will have other problems with a guy who spouts Neitchize, or they could feel that constant quoting from "intellectual sources" is to make up for a lack of original thinking.

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Originally posted by dragon34:
I never understood why so many of my guy friends seemed to be drawn to the girls who mandated being "impressed" all the time.. Is being with someone really worth trying to impress them all the time? Yes, it is nice to get flowers or be taken out to dinner if you've had a bad day, or even if you haven't, but just having someone to sit around and talk with in sweatpants is nice too. Whey we feel the need to turn the attention of romantic interests on ourselves is probably because we want them to take the interest in us... It is flattering to have someone be interested in you, and from my experience, if you are trying to get into a relationship, the hard part is usually getting them to respond. You already know you want to be with them, but you have to convince them that they want to be with you. Why do male birds have brighter feathers than their female counterparts? To be noticed. To impress the female birds.. Its the same idea.. I don't know, I'm tired, so I'm probly not making sense but personally, I'd take sitting around in pajamas with someone i could have interesting conversations with over flowers any day....

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Originally posted by quantumfluff:
Q: what won't get girls?
A: talking about what won't get girls for 2 pages worth of posts.

Please, just be yourselves. Either you will find a girl who likes you the way you are or you will not breed. It's really simple.

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But on the whole PJs thing: I find 'em very comfortable, of course, and I'm never embarrassed to wear something I like. However, I don't enjoy following fads and/or mimicking others, so I don't wear mine to school and such. It sickens me that I'd need to wear things others are just to be 'comfy'...that altogether makes me feel uncomfortable.

What my experience was (I say was because I'm happily married, and have been for 4 years) may or may not help but here goes.

Don't:

Try to be something you're not. Most girls will see right through it.

Try to force girls to accept you for who you are. People have prejudices, and (unfortunately) will commonly exclude you from their circle of friends because of your opinions/beliefs/behaviors. Its sad, but it happens, so remember that if they don't like you for who you are, you'd probably be miserable if you stuck with them for long anyway.

Give up on yourself. You will sometimes feel as though you are worthless, or that no one likes you. Don't believe it, and don't fall for it. You're better than that, and often, that's part of the reason that people will ostracize you.

This is a short list, but are the most important ones I could think of off the top of my head. Best of luck to all of you.

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Originally posted by TheAnnoyedCockroach:

I bow to you, oh wise Sensai.

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I actually LIKE Nietzsche. How many geekettes out there feel the same way? I feel like a minority because of the reason this thread was started (not that I don't like that feeling or really care for that matter).

And I personally feel that the best pajamas are any kind of flannel ones, as long as they have kitties on them.

Twinkle, I meant that the guys who said "reading is a turn off to girls" were over generalizing, and the girls who said "Yes we do" are people from the board and will be more intelligent than the girl next door, unless she happens to be a geek. The comment about "The Rules" was to mean that I didn't know everything, just that what I typically do has worked for me (untill recent, when I am attracting people who aren't my type).

Now, what won't get you a girl? Look at Pope of Perl's "What Not to Do" list in the "Found Geekette in training..." thread. Add to that list:
- Whining about how much you love(loved) another girl
- Dowsing them in gasoline and setting them a blaze
- Force feeding them liver, onions and anchovies (espeically when they aren't into BDSM)
- Talking to them like they are three or purposfullytrying to talk over their head
- Introduce them to your wife/girlfriend

1.Men who approch me in bars asking where my boyfriend or husband is and a pick up line.
2.Asking me out on a date, telling me you really like me, then two weeks later asking me if I believe in love at first site because you fell in love with some girl you saw at a conference.
3.Telling me you love me if you havent known me for at least 6 months (perferably at least a year)
4.Being an idiot in general. (if you are not then you understand, if you dont understand you probably are one)
5.Being selfish with attention or making little digs at my expence.
6.Just being a JERK in general, weather to me or others or even to anmals, if you can't control yourself stay away!

Well, I could think of many other things but I don't want to bore you all or start sounding to bitter.

Guys I love ya, but you sure make it hard.

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Guys I love ya, but you sure make it hard.

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I can't speak for other girls, but what won't get me is:

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As another girl, I think your points are well taken.

And guys, another thing that *really* won't get us:
Don't tell us that you work as an OB/GYN. That's a guy's fantasy, *not* ours. We only go because we have to.

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As another girl, I think your points are well taken.

And guys, another thing that *really* won't get us:
Don't tell us that you work as an OB/GYN. That's a guy's fantasy, *not* ours. We only go because we have to.

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umm, ICKY, thats just wrong, whoever said that was either lying, or just a pervert......my 2c, but still GROSS *shuddering at the thought* would take a SICK SICK person to fantisize about being an OB/GYN feh...

(Ah, I just love contradicting myself on the same board...)

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umm, ICKY, thats just wrong,

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Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction and my friend's. But it happend to us twice on different occasions. And that's such a weird and disturbing thing to lie about.

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Originally posted by plastic:
I can't speak for other girls, but what won't get me is:

1.Men who approch me in bars asking where my boyfriend or husband is and a pick up line.
2.Asking me out on a date, telling me you really like me, then two weeks later asking me if I believe in love at first site because you fell in love with some girl you saw at a conference.
3.Telling me you love me if you havent known me for at least 6 months (perferably at least a year)
4.Being an idiot in general. (if you are not then you understand, if you dont understand you probably are one)
5.Being selfish with attention or making little digs at my expence.
6.Just being a JERK in general, weather to me or others or even to anmals, if you can't control yourself stay away!

Well, I could think of many other things but I don't want to bore you all or start sounding to bitter.

Guys I love ya, but you sure make it hard.

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Don't stare at my legs while trying to get or give a phone number either. Yes, they are nice and strong and muscular. All the better to kick you with m'dear.

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Don't stare at my legs while trying to get or give a phone number either. Yes, they are nice and strong and muscular. All the better to kick you with m'dear.

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And while conversing with us, eye contact makes a big difference as to whether or not you're even going to get digits in the first place. Look at our faces and not...*ahem*...elsewhere.

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And while conversing with us, eye contact makes a big difference as to whether or not you're even going to get digits in the first place. Look at our faces and not...*ahem*...elsewhere.

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aye, the face is the only place where the eyes are...though I like the neck and shoulders too, though thats a whole other story

Now, I know of the one person I really ought to have given that to - my female tag-along at university. I always thought she was in her twenties, but she told me, and maintains, that she's 50-something (wth?). I won't post anything cruel (no matter how true) here, I don't want to be slanderous, but that number does sound deliciously good to use on her. No, I'd never do anything like that, which is probably why I got stuck with her for so long. With luck, we'll be doing different modules this year, and I'll see as little of her as possible, before I actually snap... ;-)

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aye, the face is the only place where the eyes are...though I like the neck and shoulders too, though thats a whole other story

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Oh dear god. I put my hair up once. My boyfriend at the time spent the next 30 minutes oogling my neck. It was flattering (I'd never thought of my neck as being anything special), but if someone I dodn't know did that to me I'd probably panic. He also liked to gawk at my collarbones (I won't even ask).
What are you boys? Vampires?

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What are you boys? Vampires?

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Now, I know of the one person I really ought to have given that to - my female tag-along at university. I always thought she was in her twenties, but she told me, and maintains, that she's 50-something (wth?).

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Oh dear god. I put my hair up once. My boyfriend at the time spent the next 30 minutes oogling my neck. It was flattering (I'd never thought of my neck as being anything special), but if someone I dodn't know did that to me I'd probably panic. He also liked to gawk at my collarbones (I won't even ask).
What are you boys? Vampires?

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hmmm...haven't you ever been kissed on the neck (by someone you liked)?
ahhhh...you must try it

That is the thing, though, I should be able to tell (my vision is adequate), and that is what worries me. She isn't exactly the most truthful person I know, and at first I thought it was just some sort of stupid joke or deceit. Now, I really don't know. She's also genuinely paranoid, it seems (she came from some African state, so mabye her life as a child genuinely harmed her mind, I don't know, but she makes Nayt seem somewhat on the mild side) but also motherly (eww, please, my own mother is enough, thanks). Grr...</rant>

Edit: Just asked a fellow student over AIM how old he reckons she is; he replied: "36? she ain't 50 something. She is clearly deranged." Well, there you go.

- uilleann

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Originally posted by SupportGoddess:
I have to agree with Xanthine, Dr. C. If I think a guy is attractive and then find out he doesn't read he suddenly becomes way less attractive.

Dr. C, different people find different things attractive. Just be who you are and eventually you will meet a girl who finds you attractive for who you actually are. Don't try to hide things that you feel girls find unattractive, you won't really be happy. And even worse, you might miss out on a chance with someone who might find you genuinely attractive.

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What are you boys? Vampires?

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I recently discovered a site for people who enjoy vomit. nobody should have to change, just find the someone who shares your interests, they are out there..........Z

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You're bulemic, too?

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Originally posted by chicgeek:
You're bulemic, too?

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Uh-oh. Someone's gonna have to explain Zorro to chicgeek... I wouldn't know where to begin...

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You're bulemic, too?

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I think he's referring to a rather, uh, unsanitary fetish.