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redelvis Geek-in-Training  
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posted February 09, 2001 17:02
   
I luv techno music. Without the beat, the excitement, the race to happiness, it would have just been an ugly gray morning. When I woke up this morning, I saw absolutely the worst weather possible (for nothern California Enter walkman: put on some techno music. Realize that today is Friday, the weekend is coming. The beat picks up. Realize that the earth needs rain and it's really a good thing. Feel like dancing. Walking through the rain, smiling, enjoy getting wet. Suddenly really good things start happening: I say have a good day to the bus drivier and he smiles, the security guard looks up from his paper and smiles. Get into my office and see the gray sky. And I think: the sky is still blue above those clouds. IP: Logged |
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supaboy SuperBlabberMouth!     
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posted February 10, 2001 22:56
Me, too. Most of the time when I'm driving, I have something techno playing. Er, better make that something electronica. Short trips I tend to play harder songs, but I'll play softer stuff on long drives. IP: Logged |
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Drasca Alpha Geek  Posts: 344 |
posted February 10, 2001 23:29
You're not the only ones. I love the screaming electronic effects, the twists, the instruments and sound effects I can't even being to descrbe.. But I always like it upbeat.  Go techno! (or electronic.. sort of ?) IP: Logged |
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redelvis Geek-in-Training
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posted February 11, 2001 14:17
Right on - techno, electronica, drum and bass - I think the category doesn't matter as much as the tune. I think my favorite part is that there are rarely meaningful lyrics to techno. Lyrics have their place (sometimes I wish all poetry was like suzanne vega), but too often they are trite and just get in the way. IP: Logged |
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Swiss Mercenary BlabberMouth, the Next Generation.
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posted February 12, 2001 06:24
OK, negative voice here. I hate the stuff, I find it loud, meaningless and totally repetitive. All right, I was born in the mid 60's and was brought up listening to Rock and Heavy Metal (for the record I did not like Disco or Reggae in those days). I like meaningful lyrics, good guitar work and a great tune, not electronic noise that seems to just be samples of great songs of the past with a loud bass beat added in. I do not qualify techno as music. IP: Logged |
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CuriousGene Geek Apprentice
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posted February 12, 2001 14:35
You just need to find the right stuff. It seems to me that it's really easy to make bad techno, and really difficult to make good techno. Consequently, there's a lot more bad techno out there than good, and (as with just about any other genre) you generally hear the bad stuff more often. Clint Mansell has done some really amazing stuff, and Roni Size, and Orbital... IP: Logged |
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balanco00 unregistered |
posted February 12, 2001 14:38
[QUOTE]Originally posted by redelvis: [B] I luv techno music. Without the beat, the excitement, the race to happiness, it would have just been an ugly gray morning. When I woke up this morning, I saw absolutely the worst weather possible (for nothern California SoCal hasn't been very good either. IP: Logged |
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Etherblade Super Geek 
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posted February 12, 2001 19:33
Maybe if they didn't take two words from some actual GOOD song and fill the rest with quasi-syncopated "I was on crack when I wrote this" beats, it might be worth listening. Etherblade, the "it's love, not luv" guy. IP: Logged |
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Tau Zero BlabberMouth, the Next Generation.
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posted February 12, 2001 20:25
Getting a bit OT, but I have noticed that you find the best instrumentalists performing instrumentals, not backing a vocalist. Really good musicianship is very often displayed for its own sake, not to accompany a song. Many's the time I've heard what could have been a decent song, but the writer was lazy and put nothing into the music behind it. For instance, one guy I won't name didn't even bother varying the bass line when the vocals went from verse to chorus. It was about a 3-note bass line, too; how much creativity would it have taken to work on that a bit? It's crap like that which made me swear off mass-marketed everything. You can talk about how elites are oppressive and an undue reverence for the past is confining, but the dual tests of a critical audience and the test of time do a wonderful job of filtering out junk. Sometimes they filter things which don't deserve it, but when there is a lot more stuff in the world than you have time to judge personally you have to made tradeoffs. IP: Logged |
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ajax_r Geek-in-Training
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posted February 12, 2001 21:56
CuriousGene: You just need to find the right stuff. It seems to me that it's really easy to make bad techno, and really difficult to make good techno. Ha! Easier said than done. It's very very VERY hard to find that "right stuff". IP: Logged |
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kimbrosan Super Geek
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posted February 13, 2001 18:59
It's good stuff. Electro, downtempo, uptempo, deep, hi fi, rare groove, tikihouse, whatever. The CD that I've got in at the moment is a piece of electro-kitsch by Mike Dred aka Kosmik Kommando. (Who I've heard actually got a grant from the English government to do his thing -- quite the oppposite of the US govvie, which I think would rather that musical expression of any sort rots in hell unless there's platinum involved) Really bare-bones stuff but danceable as hell. He's on rephlex -- aphex twin, mu-siq, gentle people, atom heart, squarepusher, etc. And nothing's better to listen to driving into a fog-shrouded cityscape just over a railroad trestle. Concrete heartbeats, if you will. IP: Logged |
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nekomatic Assimilated
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posted February 16, 2001 09:34
There's plenty of crap dance music out there just like there's plenty of crap pop, rock and most other things (I don't know if the current terminology is different in the US, but I know people who would haul me over the coals if I misapplied the word 'techno'...) but I think the best stuff can be superb, and this genre has definitely pushed the envelope of popular music in certain ways: especially the use of harmony and microtonality (i.e. deliberate 'out-of-tune'-ness). These are things that sound 'wrong' in a traditional (e.g. rock) sensibility, but on their own terms have carved out a new... aesthetic, if that doesn't sound too pretentious. Of course, now I'm struggling to think of some good examples... IP: Logged |
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weirdo513 Super Geek
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posted February 22, 2001 05:56
I think a lot of good techno gets a bad name cuz of the type of techno, there are like 15 types of electronica; house, drums & Bass, techno, trance and acid are just a few. I'm big into TOrley Wong, he's awesome, he was a child prodigy pianist, who turned to techno, so a lot of his pieces have a classical music twinge to them... check him out. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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opiate Maximum Newbie
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posted March 12, 2001 01:42
Music does have a tendency to make things better. I don't necessarily find upbeat techno a thing to make me see a blue sky, though. Maybe a black-lit room in a warehouse, but not a blue sky... ;) ------------------ I used to be an atheist, until I realized I am god. IP: Logged |
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Syn Super Geek
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posted March 12, 2001 14:15
Wow, this gives me an opportunity to ask a question I've tried to get an answer to for the past week: What's some good techno to download? Specifically, good bands, some of their best songs, etc. I love techno myself, but I don't know of any names, as I only hear it when people play cds at friends' places, and I can never remember the band name afterwards. /: ------------------ IP: Logged |
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opiate Maximum Newbie
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posted March 12, 2001 14:45
depends on what you're in the mood for... Aphex Twin (atmospheric), 808 State (dance mostly), Moby, Orbital, Orb, Amon Tobin, Antiloop, Dune, Jaia, BT, Paul Oakenfold... Also, some bands that have a techno influence in their music: Hooverphonic, Sneaker Pimps, Deep Forest, Olive... The list is huge... pick any one of the groups I listed at the top and hit amazon.com. Check out the "what others have bought" section at the bottom of the album info screen. It can give you some good ideas for other bands to look into. Also, searching for DJ on amazon will give you a bunch of techno music recorded by DJs. Can't say that much of it will necessarily be good; I personally only like about half the DJ'd music I hear... ------------------ I used to be an atheist, until I realized I am god. IP: Logged |
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octothorp Assimilated
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posted March 12, 2001 15:48
Amon Tobin is going to be in town on Wednesday, and I can't go because I have a basketball game at 9:45 pm. On a related note, here's a question for someone more knowledgable about techno than I: I've heard Amon Tobin's music described as both drum & bass, and drum & drill. What is the difference between these two? For the record, my favorite electronic musicians: obviously I prefer the jazz/latin-influenced or ambient stuff, rather than hardcore techno. Sometimes the best electronic stuff, though, are in really unexpected locations--my favorite turntable-friendly song right now is Bad Luck City on blues legend RL Burnside's most recent album, Wish I Was in Heaven Sitting Down. Check it out on your P2P file-sharing software of choice. # IP: Logged |
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kimbrosan Super Geek
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posted March 12, 2001 16:26
drum and bass: beats and drums, electronic or sampled, straight up. drum and drill: think of "drill" as in "drill team" not "hole-boring power tools." using drum rolls, fills and techniques along with your basic "funky drummer" structure. Tobin's Ten Ton Mantis is a great example of that. downtempo stuff that i've been listening to: boards of canada others: luke vibert/wagon christ/plug dan 'the automator' nakamura as always, check out BBC radio online (2? three? can't remember which.) or ninjatune.net's solid steel shows. several shows on there are quite good if not cutting with the sharpest of edges. happy hunting, syn. IP: Logged |
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nekomatic Assimilated
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posted March 13, 2001 07:40
quote: Oops, how come I missed this one earlier? Squarepusher is fantastic - at least the early stuff, I don't know his more recent ones. I have the 'Port Rhombus' 12" and have never figured out if it's supposed to play at 33 or 45 - sounds great either way (manic at 33, COMPLETELY manic at 45!). Photek should be on anyone's d&b list, also Roni Size/Reprazent I guess. Drum & bass is what's on the radio of the minicab driving you through sodium-lit Hackney streets at 4 am on your way from someone's party to crash at someone else's house... ...Or something. IP: Logged |
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