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Snaggy Moderator Posts: 1619 |
posted June 17, 2002 11:54
I've blocked the pop-up and pop-under ads. If anyone is still getting pop-up or pop-under banner ads, please let me know. And, on a related note, if anyone wants to buy some advertising, please let me know.
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ilovemydualg4 Alpha Geek Posts: 312 |
posted June 17, 2002 12:13
YIPEE I HATED THAT DAMN SMART CERTIFY AD! just out of curiosity, how much cash did that add bring in, like less than a buck a month, etc. on a semi-related note, the banners on the top of the page don't work, they go to a 404 style page ------------------ IP: Logged |
uilleann Alpha Geek Posts: 322 |
posted June 17, 2002 14:37
Snaggy: If anyone is still getting pop-up or pop-under banner ads... I must confess to have never seen any of those from geekculture.com. Even so, if I ever do see any, I think I'll be having a little word with one Herr Clauss about the reliability of InScript filtering in iCab Preview 2.8... ;-) - Uilleann IP: Logged |
macadddikt18 BlabberMouth, the Next Generation. Posts: 1744 |
posted June 17, 2002 19:59
since switching to OmniWeb i have not seen any pop-up adds. I got them all the time with IE. another reason why IE sucks. But your effort os noted. Now when i post from school, i won't see those stupid adds. Nayt ------------------ IP: Logged |
Snaggy Moderator Posts: 1619 |
posted June 17, 2002 21:09
Well, just looking at the tribalfusion reports, (the ones who fed us the pop-ups), my guess is I just gave up between $80 to $150 a month. So I already regret it. We'll see what happens, if we don't pick up the slack elsewhere, they may be back... such is reality. IP: Logged |
LifetimeTrekker Highlie Posts: 544 |
posted June 17, 2002 23:10
I'd rather close the ads--you guys need the income. Hell, the worst that happens is I close some windows. IP: Logged |
uilleann Alpha Geek Posts: 322 |
posted June 18, 2002 01:07
Quoting macadddikt18: since switching to OmniWeb i have not seen any pop-up adds. I got them all the time with IE. another reason why IE sucks That's interesting. When I first enabled InScript filtering in iCab, it tried to stop pages opening new windows by themselves, but still allow them to do so under user control (such as a link). However, it used to block some legitimate window opening, and the option was off by default. I wonder if OmniWeb is smart enough to not make mistakes and block any good pages? I know iCab now has site-based filtering, so I can add sites for which I want to have that feature turned off. I can also filter normal ad banners, which is nice too. But, oh, there are more reasons why IE sucks. One of which is its form editing, and that damnable auto-select-whole-word as I drag - I can't imagine that being useful to anyone and wish I could turn the bloody thing off. And don't get quantumfluff and Steen started on the matter, either :) - Uilleann IP: Logged |
greycat Alpha Geek Posts: 314 |
posted June 18, 2002 05:55
I never see any popup ads, from this site or from any other site, because I disable all Javascript. Javascript is pure, unadulterated evil. Its only purpose is to take control of your browser away from you and give it to the people whose web sites (or banners) you are viewing. Of course, I certainly hope that Snaggy and Nitrozac can survive without this source of income. IP: Logged |
rw Super Geek Posts: 247 |
posted June 18, 2002 06:34
Sheesh, greycat JavaScript can be used for good or evil. If you think about it, the purpose of any application is to take control of your computer. So since they're the ones most affected, maybe the Windows users here should pool together and give Snaggy $150 every month IP: Logged |
uilleann Alpha Geek Posts: 322 |
posted June 18, 2002 07:33
Macintosh IE can? I have 5.0/Classic and I was never aware of that, when I ran it. I'm guessing this is a 5.1 feature. Doesn't sound like something Microsoft would do, though. Just checked IE 5.5 and 6, neither seem to offer that feature. As for greycat, well, some sites need it for site selection pop-up menus (I recall, from when JS was badly implemented in iCab), and it has other uses, such as opening new windows for images, and the like. Generally, I have no problem with it, and with pop-up ads blocked, no problem at all now. - Uilleann IP: Logged |
FatGnome Super Geek Posts: 239 |
posted June 18, 2002 09:51
Thanks, I have IE/WinXP Prof. I got an occasional pop-up but not too many. I never minded shutting them down though I mean realy they don't do that much other than make me click on an extra X. I think I could do that if you need the cash Snaggy. IP: Logged |
Steen SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1269 |
posted June 18, 2002 10:39
uilleann wrote: And don't get quantumfluff and Steen started on the matter, either *laugh* IP: Logged |
greycat Alpha Geek Posts: 314 |
posted June 19, 2002 13:02
quote: No, the purpose of installing a program on my computer is to give me better control of my computer. There is a major difference between running code locally after I take explicit action to install it; and running code that I happen to find somewhere on a web site, whose purpose may be malicious, automatically. Also, Javascript usually runs completely invisibly; it does its nefarious work in the dark shadowy netherworld of your browser. If you knew what it was doing, you would almost certainly not approve.
quote: Then those sites are badly written. They will not work with all browsers. There is no excuse for that. A quick Google search for javascript evil turned up several pages, including this interesting one. Anyone who thinks, oh, Javascript is harmless, it's never done anything bad to me has simply never seen what it can actually do. IP: Logged |
uilleann Alpha Geek Posts: 322 |
posted June 19, 2002 15:00
If a site is badly written, do I look like I have a choice in the matter? If I need to access it, then JavaScript must be on :) And yes, typically, JavaScript has never done me any wrong, although on my surfing I have encountered a Seeker trojan (or whatever F-Secure calls it) on two occasions, that spawns lots of new IE windows and brings it to a halt. However, irregardless of the first time, I brought the second on myself due to some very unsavoury surfing. For the most part, JS is not abused, so I do wonder where you go to pick up these evils, greycat? ;-) Incidentally, I was going over a site today I'm working on, and checking and fixing all the server-side validation, for people with no JavaScript to validate client-side (with you in mind, for one :) (I hate server-side validation - there's the ever-present risk that clicking back will lose the form (aside: Hrm, maybe I should look into returning a prefilled form with the errors marked, well, probably not actually (cause I'm lazy, for one thing))) - Uilleann Edit: IP: Logged |
Snaggy Moderator Posts: 1619 |
posted June 26, 2002 20:13
After a week of no pop-ups and pop-unders, I decided to check ad revenue....
I'm turning them back on. Sorry folks.... meesa gotta survive. IP: Logged |
greycat Alpha Geek Posts: 314 |
posted June 27, 2002 05:39
How does the revenue on these ads get computed? Do you get a fixed amount per month, or an amount for every page hit that has the Javascript code for the banner on it, or an amount for each successful execution of the Javascript code that creates the banner ad, or...? I'm just wondering whether those of us who have disabled Javascript are contributing to your ad revenue without actually seeing the ads, or whether you suffer for having enlightened users. I hope it's the former, of course. IP: Logged |
Snaggy Moderator Posts: 1619 |
posted June 27, 2002 07:56
We are paid per successful display of the ad, so those with javascript off or who are blocking ads are not contributing to our ad revenue. IP: Logged |
Tau Zero BlabberMouth, the Next Generation. Posts: 1719 |
posted June 27, 2002 11:25
... so ideally, what we'd have is something which makes it look like the ad displays, but doesn't really do it. IP: Logged |
Bregalad Alpha Geek Posts: 257 |
posted June 28, 2002 15:54
I'll have to make sure I visit Geek Culture with a popup enabled browser. I know my copy of Opera 6 at work shows popups so I'll make sure at least one of my home browsers is set to accept them. IP: Logged |
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