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TechnoGram Super Geek Posts: 245 From: USA Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 21, 2002 07:31 Microsoft Program Tracks User Info Wed Feb 20, 8:20 PM ET By D. IAN HOPPER, AP Technology Writer WASHINGTON - Microsoft's new version of its popular Media Player software is logging the songs and movies that customers play. The company changed its privacy statement Wednesday to notify customers about the technology after inquiries from The Associated Press. Yeh, and would have left it alone if not asked. ------------------ .--. .-. --- - --- - - -... IP: Logged
macadddikt18 SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1126 From: In a world beyond your understanding Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 21, 2002 07:48 this is another example of how evil microsoft is. Nayt ------------------ Through out your life you will wonder who THEY are. Then you find out who THEY really are. From then on you live you life in fear of THEM and you wish you never knew who THEY were. IP: Logged
EngrBohn Highlie Posts: 686 From: United States Registered: Jul 2000	posted February 21, 2002 08:14 I am so disillusioned. I can't beli... sorry, couldn't pull it off. In 1984, weren't the televisions one way BB kept an eye on people? ------------------ cb Oooh! What does this button do!? IP: Logged
TechnoGram Super Geek Posts: 245 From: USA Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 21, 2002 08:32 quote: Originally posted by macadddikt18: this is another example of how evil microsoft is. Nayt My point exactly. and quote: Originally posted by EngrBohn: I am so disillusioned. I can't beli... sorry, couldn't pull it off. lol... and sure BB used tv's in 1984. ------------------ .--. .-. --- - --- - - -... IP: Logged
macadddikt18 SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1126 From: In a world beyond your understanding Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 21, 2002 11:21 ok, what the heck is BB? Nayt ------------------ Through out your life you will wonder who THEY are. Then you find out who THEY really are. From then on you live you life in fear of THEM and you wish you never knew who THEY were. IP: Logged
Akira Super Geek Posts: 182 From: in transit Registered: Oct 2001	posted February 21, 2002 11:22 Big Brother ------------------ I am Dyslexic of Borg. Prepare to have your ass laminated. IP: Logged
TechnoGram Super Geek Posts: 245 From: USA Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 21, 2002 11:30 quote: Originally posted by Akira: Big Brother right, and do you notice the similarity in initials? too bad gates is not named bill bates... ------------------ .--. .-. --- - --- - - -... IP: Logged
macadddikt18 SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1126 From: In a world beyond your understanding Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 21, 2002 15:04 It all makes sense now...... nayt ------------------ Through out your life you will wonder who THEY are. Then you find out who THEY really are. From then on you live you life in fear of THEM and you wish you never knew who THEY were. IP: Logged
ZorroTheFox SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1117 From: Milton, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2001	posted February 21, 2002 15:55 so should I call him uncle Gates, or just big bro. I think even Metallica is behind this one............Z IP: Logged
Akira Super Geek Posts: 182 From: in transit Registered: Oct 2001	posted February 21, 2002 17:17 Metallica has been anti-fan ever since Napster hit. Don't even get me started -- they'd still be playing low-capacity clubs in San Francisco if it hadn't been for fans trading tapes of their live shows. The only fundamental difference between that and Napster is scale. There are plenty of hypocrisies in this debate, but there are few that are bigger. ------------------ I am Dyslexic of Borg. Prepare to have your ass laminated. IP: Logged
macadddikt18 SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1126 From: In a world beyond your understanding Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 21, 2002 18:31 you tell it like it is man. Nayt ------------------ Through out your life you will wonder who THEY are. Then you find out who THEY really are. From then on you live you life in fear of THEM and you wish you never knew who THEY were. IP: Logged
LifetimeTrekker Alpha Geek Posts: 326 From: Albuquerque, NM, UD Registered: Sep 2001	posted February 21, 2002 21:18 Napster BAD! Beer GOOD! Microsoft BAD! Forget it. No way am I gonna refer to MAC as good. IP: Logged
trowelblister Super Geek Posts: 227 From: doylestown, pa, usa Registered: Sep 2001	posted February 22, 2002 05:18 I'm surprised why?? Gee, maybe an anti-trust or civil suit could stop their evil progress (ok as part of our punishment, we're gonna indoctrinate an entire NEW generation with our buggy, invasionary products..) is invasionary a word? didn't think so. ,,,and on the Metallica front: Who'd a thought such a big, tough bunch of heavy metal guys could whine like such babies? Or maybe it was just that Lars weasel.... IP: Logged
macadddikt18 SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1126 From: In a world beyond your understanding Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 22, 2002 08:19 metallica, HA i support Monster Magnet! Nayt ------------------ Through out your life you will wonder who THEY are. Then you find out who THEY really are. From then on you live you life in fear of THEM and you wish you never knew who THEY were. IP: Logged
quantumfluff Highlie Posts: 672 From: the ether Registered: Jun 2000	posted February 22, 2002 09:19 I don't think this is really about Microsoft itself invading your privacy. I think this is just another step towards pervassive Digitial Rights Management (DRM). 'Microsoft the software provider' has put this hook in not for their benefit, but so that, in the future, music and video publishers, as well as 'Microsoft the content provider' may more completely control your viewing/listening experience. <begin rant> The issue is not so much spying, as the goal publishers have to control the viewing experience completely. Today you 'own' a copy of a book. You may give that book to someone else. The MPAA and RIAA would like you not to 'own' a copy of a DVD/CD, but rather have a license to view/listen on their terms. That means limiting the range of playback devices you may use, having non-skipable sections (advertisements), limiting the number of playbacks, limiting the countries you can playback in and, most importantly, prohibiting you from selling your copy/license to someone else. <end rant> trowelblister: invasive is the word you want. IP: Logged
TechnoGram Super Geek Posts: 245 From: USA Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 22, 2002 09:30 DRM along with lots of other nasty things... From today's reportage as it shows up on the link in the first post: quote: As part of downloading the information about songs and movies from the Web site, the program also transmits an identifier number unique to each user on the computer. That creates the possibility that user habits could be tracked and sold for marketing purposes. Privacy experts said they feared the log file could be used by investigators, divorce lawyers, snooping family members, marketing companies or others interested in learning about a person's entertainment habits. ------------------ .--. .-. --- - --- - - -... IP: Logged
EngrBohn Highlie Posts: 686 From: United States Registered: Jul 2000	posted February 22, 2002 11:05 - quantumfluff - trowelblister: invasive is the word you want. I figured he was going for a play-on-words, kind of like SNL's GW Bush character inventing the term "strategery". Here, make use of MS's loose definition of "visionary" (from "vision"), and change the root to "invasion", creating "invasionary". ------------------ cb Oooh! What does this button do!? IP: Logged
zorgon Super Geek Posts: 238 From: Beautiful Uptown Goleta Registered: Sep 2000	posted February 22, 2002 13:53 ... doubleplusungood ... IP: Logged
quantumfluff Highlie Posts: 672 From: the ether Registered: Jun 2000	posted February 22, 2002 14:28 quantumfluff -trowelblister: invasive is the word you want. EngrBohn - I figured he was going for a play-on-words... Maybe, but he spoiled it by asking if 'invasionary' was a word. IP: Logged
mto Newbie Larva Posts: 4 From: Toronto, On, CA Registered: Jun 2000	posted February 22, 2002 19:59 quote: Originally posted by EngrBohn: ..."strategery". Here, make use of MS's loose definition of "visionary" (from "vision"), and change the root to "invasion", creating "invasionary". [/B] The word at work is "marketecture". IP: Logged
macadddikt18 SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1126 From: In a world beyond your understanding Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 22, 2002 21:27 interesting, all very interesting....... Nayt ------------------ Through out your life you will wonder who THEY are. Then you find out who THEY really are. From then on you live you life in fear of THEM and you wish you never knew who THEY were. IP: Logged
ZorroTheFox SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1117 From: Milton, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2001	posted February 22, 2002 21:39 I wonder if Metallica is in Bill's back pocket?...............Z IP: Logged
macadddikt18 SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1126 From: In a world beyond your understanding Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 23, 2002 12:18 would she fit is the question? Nayt ------------------ Through out your life you will wonder who THEY are. Then you find out who THEY really are. From then on you live you life in fear of THEM and you wish you never knew who THEY were. IP: Logged
+Andrew Super Geek Posts: 198 From: Boston, MA, USA Registered: Aug 2001	posted February 23, 2002 19:49 I'm sure than if Bill's wallet fits in his pocket, just about anything else can too. -Andrew IP: Logged
ZorroTheFox SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1117 From: Milton, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2001	posted February 23, 2002 21:26 someday everything will be in Bill's back pocket, "He's got the whole world, in his pants" ..................Z IP: Logged
macadddikt18 SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1126 From: In a world beyond your understanding Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 23, 2002 21:31 I will fight to keep things out of his pants. The thought that someday i will be in his pants is nasty. I mean i am part of teh world and all. Nayt ------------------ Through out your life you will wonder who THEY are. Then you find out who THEY really are. From then on you live you life in fear of THEM and you wish you never knew who THEY were. IP: Logged
MacGoldstein Geek Larva Posts: 25 From: Temple, Texas, United States Registered: Feb 2002	posted February 24, 2002 08:36 Since we're talking some 1984 here, you now must understand where my screen name comes from... oh, and LifetimeTrekker... I think that calling Microsoft bad, and then not following up with Mac GOOD, (although when you capatilize the MAC like you did, i wasn't sure if you were talking about the OS, or the network addresses), you are commiting doublethink. Your thoughtcrime will be logged, and I'm sending the thought police after you as we speak. IP: Logged
Sir Aureus Geek-in-Training Posts: 36 From: wherever my pismo happens to be Registered: Feb 2002	posted February 24, 2002 12:37 quantumfluff posted: <begin rant> The issue is not so much spying, as the goal publishers have to control the viewing experience completely. Today you 'own' a copy of a book. You may give that book to someone else. The MPAA and RIAA would like you not to 'own' a copy of a DVD/CD, but rather have a license to view/listen on their terms. That means limiting the range of playback devices you may use, having non-skipable sections (advertisements), limiting the number of playbacks, limiting the countries you can playback in and, most importantly, prohibiting you from selling your copy/license to someone else. <end rant> DVDs are already somewhat limited in the countries you can playback in. DVD players and DVDs have a location flag; a japanese DVD player can't play american DVDs without changing the flag, and it can only legally be changed a few times (this is from memory. I apologize if I don't have it exactly right, but something like this is true.) ------------------ I'm egotistical and I'm proud of it! IP: Logged
ZorroTheFox SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1117 From: Milton, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2001	posted February 24, 2002 20:13 quote: Originally posted by macadddikt18: I will fight to keep things out of his pants. The thought that someday i will be in his pants is nasty. I mean i am part of teh world and all. Nayt I didn't mean it literally though I have heard he has lots of room in his pants >;o) ...........Z IP: Logged
TechnoGram Super Geek Posts: 245 From: USA Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 25, 2002 10:32 quote: Originally posted by ZorroTheFox: I didn't mean it literally though I have heard he has lots of room in his pants >;o) ...........Z lucky you didn't mean it literally. i mean imagine the -- ewww -- odor. ------------------ .--. .-. --- - --- - - -... IP: Logged
macadddikt18 SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1126 From: In a world beyond your understanding Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 25, 2002 12:53 odor, is that all, i mean eww, i could think of a few other things to avoid in his pants. nayt ------------------ Through out your life you will wonder who THEY are. Then you find out who THEY really are. From then on you live you life in fear of THEM and you wish you never knew who THEY were. IP: Logged
TechnoGram Super Geek Posts: 245 From: USA Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 25, 2002 14:19 quote: Originally posted by macadddikt18: odor, is that all, i mean eww, i could think of a few other things to avoid in his pants. nayt lol... you got that right... yu-u-ck ------------------ .--. .-. --- - --- - - -... IP: Logged
macadddikt18 SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1126 From: In a world beyond your understanding Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 25, 2002 15:18 makes you want to vomit. Nayt ------------------ Through out your life you will wonder who THEY are. Then you find out who THEY really are. From then on you live you life in fear of THEM and you wish you never knew who THEY were. IP: Logged
Tigerabbit unregistered	posted February 25, 2002 16:18 M$'s end is already at hand. Wal-Mart is now selling Windoze-free PCs, and little Billy Gates can't do a damn thing about it. Something about Wal-Mart being able to buy M$ with petty cash comes to mind. All you M$ bootleg are belongs to Ghost Walton. IP: Logged
ZorroTheFox SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1117 From: Milton, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2001	posted February 25, 2002 18:20 heck, I had to take anti-sickness pills just to read this thread >;o) ........Z IP: Logged
macadddikt18 SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1126 From: In a world beyond your understanding Registered: Jan 2002	posted February 25, 2002 19:43 Take the blue pill. and you will never remember any of this....... Nayt ------------------ Through out your life you will wonder who THEY are. Then you find out who THEY really are. From then on you live you life in fear of THEM and you wish you never knew who THEY were. IP: Logged
ZorroTheFox SuperBlabberMouth! Posts: 1117 From: Milton, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2001	posted February 26, 2002 15:01 what about nuprin, it's little, yellow, different............Z IP: Logged
Charisma Super Geek Posts: 100 From: Somewhere (I'll just say Earth) Registered: Mar 2002	posted March 11, 2002 21:15 someone said napster was bad? napster was a small company, not like MS, who had a good idea that worked, again not like MS, and they we're shut down by the big guns. I miss Napster... *sniff ------------------ "Hacking is not a crime... no wait, it is." IP: Logged
Aaron Geek Larva Posts: 23 From: University of Iowa Registered: Jan 2002	posted March 12, 2002 19:36 That's alright it has now been realized that Winblows XP's speech recognition comes turned on by default. No wait it gets better, even though your microphone is turned off 'phantom' characters appear from conversations in documents. Ok so now we realize they track what we watch and say... what next think?? One more reason to love my old indigo ibook... no spyware. Aaron ------------------------ Yes hacking is a crime. But is spying? M$ does not think so obviously. IP: Logged
TechnoGram Super Geek Posts: 245 From: USA Registered: Jan 2002	posted March 12, 2002 19:53 i don't run xp, and hadn't heard about the speech recognition problem. but i decided long ago that when and if i have to upgrade my operating system -- which i'll prolly have to do -- i'm going to linux. the evil ones in redmond have gotten way too evil for me. and yes, i do run windows, but never will again. ------------------ .--. .-. --- - --- - - -... IP: Logged

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