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Aaron
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posted February 12, 2002 21:05     Click Here to See the Profile for Aaron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apple anounces its new release to quicktime that includes MPEG-4 compression and encoding capabilities. They also anounced some additional software that will allow users to both stream video and music over the internet more easily. The only thing holding up this beta is the people who own MPEG-4, they want loyalties for both compressing and transmitting. Damn greedy people! Any other new tech stuff you guys hear about and want to talk about?

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iballoondesign
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posted February 12, 2002 21:18     Click Here to See the Profile for iballoondesign   Click Here to Email iballoondesign     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
QuickTime 6 come up so soon?

Geez, it's waste my time for download to upgrade my QuickTime 5. Apple, can't you push more time like I would ask for 1 more years.

So, what's great about QT6?

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Aaron
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posted February 12, 2002 21:25     Click Here to See the Profile for Aaron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iballoondesign:
QuickTime 6 come up so soon?

Geez, it's waste my time for download to upgrade my QuickTime 5. Apple, can't you push more time like I would ask for 1 more years.

So, what's great about QT6?


http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002/feb/12qt6.html


check out the press release it details everything.

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trowelblister
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posted February 13, 2002 05:29     Click Here to See the Profile for trowelblister   Click Here to Email trowelblister     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get confused,,,,is MPEG-4 the same as DiVX? Maybe I should look at more porn, those guys seem to know all about digital video,,,,

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macadddikt18
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posted February 13, 2002 05:38     Click Here to See the Profile for macadddikt18   Click Here to Email macadddikt18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Porn, i bet that is why they foudn so many web sites that use QT. It is all the sick porn sites out there. **shutter** speeking of both QT and porn. Has anyone seen the new movies apple posted of the new imac. They were made by Pizar, and show the imac like playing with it's self. Odd but very funny.
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Steen
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posted February 13, 2002 10:34     Click Here to See the Profile for Steen   Click Here to Email Steen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
trowelblister wrote:
I get confused,,,,is MPEG-4 the same as DiVX?

DivX is one implementation of MPEG-4, but MPEG-4 can be a implemented in other forms as well (such as Quicktime 6).

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macadddikt18
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posted February 13, 2002 10:42     Click Here to See the Profile for macadddikt18   Click Here to Email macadddikt18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They said at the keynote yeatserday that they have a version of QT 6 Preveiw ready to ship. Apple is "delaying" the release of QuickTime 6 until MPEG-LA (the folks who hold most of the MPEG-4 patents) revises its licensing terms to allow broadcasters to offer up MPEG-4 content royalty-free. heck, for convenience's sake, apple even gave out the address where well-reasoned requests may be sent: [email protected]
Nayt

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posted February 13, 2002 11:08     Click Here to See the Profile for Akira   Click Here to Email Akira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh...if Apple really, truly is taking on MPEG-LA, we could be in for a VERY long haul to QuickTime 6...

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trowelblister
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posted February 13, 2002 13:11     Click Here to See the Profile for trowelblister   Click Here to Email trowelblister     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
DivX is one implementation of MPEG-4, but MPEG-4 can be a implemented in other forms as well (such as Quicktime 6).

Thanks for the info!

Too many dang names, let's just go back to calling them all "moving pictures".

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Aaron
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posted February 13, 2002 20:36     Click Here to See the Profile for Aaron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trowelblister:
Thanks for the info!

Too many dang names, let's just go back to calling them all "moving pictures".


And why dont we all go back to using badly drawn flip books or even nickelodeons. Anyhow I'm just kidding around. I am not sure if I want QT 6 or the broadcasting tools more. I've always wanted to do my own net radio station... humm maybe all geek music. Any ideas?

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macadddikt18
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posted February 14, 2002 07:50     Click Here to See the Profile for macadddikt18   Click Here to Email macadddikt18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Techo, play techo music. This geek here likes techo music.
Nayt

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greycat
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posted February 14, 2002 10:40     Click Here to See the Profile for greycat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Techno? Like Lords of Acid?

(Why do I have this mental image of Nayt hearing Lords of Acid and immediately clapping his hands over his ears, and dropping to his knees in prayer? )

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macadddikt18
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posted February 14, 2002 11:43     Click Here to See the Profile for macadddikt18   Click Here to Email macadddikt18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no clue, i guess maybe i will download some today and find out what Lords of acid are. I was thinking more along the lines of Pual van Dyke, Pual Oakenfold, BT, Dj quicksilver. You know what i am talking about right?
Nayt

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iballoondesign
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posted February 14, 2002 11:53     Click Here to See the Profile for iballoondesign   Click Here to Email iballoondesign     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's different about QT support Flash if they have flashplayer/shockwave?

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Akira
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posted February 14, 2002 14:49     Click Here to See the Profile for Akira   Click Here to Email Akira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's about consolidating playback apps, most likely.

Of course the Flash support that's in QT 5 is kind of lacking...I hope they improve it in 6.

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Mr. Zarquon
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posted February 15, 2002 10:24     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. Zarquon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Low down on MPEGLA. It is the same group of people that runs 1394LA (the firewire people). Like EXACT same. Apple should be able to push them a bit.

Apple has invested lots of time/money into MPEG-4 (it is the equivalent of a file format specification, you can compress with a MPEG-4 Codec, which practically right now is just Divx, and store it in a file with audio compressed differently). And MPEG-4 is based heavily on the quicktime format, they look almost identical. But Apple is not one of the license owners, they GAVE a lot of their stuff to the group, and apple is trying to be able to give away Darwin Streaming Server (another Killer App for OS X Server / Quicktime in general, to get people to stop using streaming formats that don't play on the mac very well, IE windows media and real). Having to include a system that charges based on USAGE would destroy it.

So apple is being really smart. It is bringing to light MPEGLA as a group that is stopping users from getting Quicktime 6, it will now all of a sudden have to bear the brunt of the collective group of pissed of people. Because apple now has thousands of other people pushing on MPEGLA, it should bring quicktime 6 out faster than if apple didn't say anything at all.

Steve Jobs is s-m-r-t.

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Akira
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posted February 15, 2002 11:30     Click Here to See the Profile for Akira   Click Here to Email Akira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Zarquon:
So apple is being really smart. It is bringing to light MPEGLA as a group that is stopping users from getting Quicktime 6, it will now all of a sudden have to bear the brunt of the collective group of pissed of people. Because apple now has thousands of other people pushing on MPEGLA, it should bring quicktime 6 out faster than if apple didn't say anything at all.

Steve Jobs is s-m-r-t.


Unless, of course, the fabled proletariat revolution never comes to pass.

I seem to remember Stalin having to take matters into his own hands to spur that one along...

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