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Snaggy Moderator 
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posted January 18, 2002 10:46
   
Robert Emslie sent us another gorgeous rendition of his dream machines...  Warning... Slippery with Drool! following the iPad and news about Apple releasing new workstations next week, here's my rendition of my dream machine, with some snazzy mac comment, hope you'll enjoy. Take care, IP: Logged |
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flyermoney unregistered |
posted January 18, 2002 11:14
An afterword on the Aorta G5 PowerSlab: I checked on dictionary.com after compoleting this pic, and funnily enough it turns out that "Aorta" comes from old greek, meaning "to uplift"... Suspended Cubes, hovering StudioDisplays and floating iMac screens... Apple got the whole "float up and fly away" thing way before MicroSoft propelled unsuspecting users in the skies with the means of a XataPult... (;njoy!) Robert Emslie IP: Logged |
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DrBoar unregistered |
posted January 18, 2002 11:39
Lovely design but I want to have 3 front bays! ( 1. CDRW or combo 2. ZIP 3.The next thing). On the inside some more IDE chips so that one can boot form several IDE drives IP: Logged |
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dhaker unregistered |
posted January 18, 2002 12:24
Very nice! When can I get one? IP: Logged |
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wwworry Single Celled Newbie 
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posted January 18, 2002 13:01
unprotected speaker cones right next to usb and firewire connections. hmmm IP: Logged |
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soundman unregistered |
posted January 18, 2002 13:49
Nice design but why have two speakers if you don't have any separation between them? IP: Logged |
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flyermoney unregistered |
posted January 18, 2002 14:35
Dear Audio Buffs, I guess the speaker cones would be recessed enough in the case so as not to be exposed to any connector-prodding harm. The sound coming out of the built-in PowerSlab speakers would obviously undergo some on-the-fly digital manipulations depending on the available speaker setup, not unlike the way the CRT iMac speakers interact with the iSub... Shortly: Why not? IP: Logged |
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Bregalad Super Geek  
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posted January 18, 2002 16:17
Nice design; finally a tower with two 5.25" bays and ports on the front!  It looks like it could have could have come from our favorite fruit company with the exception of the obvious screws on the front. Steve would never allow that. He'd insist they double or triple the cost of the plastics so the connectors would be better hidden. Steve would probably argue that the ports must also be on the back so as not to spoil the line, but this design is more practical. After all, what's more ugly, a port on the front or a bunch of cables and/or hubs laying all over your desk so you can plug in your devices when you need them? Some day Steve Jobs should actually try using peripherals. Then he'd understand the desire for internal drive bays (look no cable clutter or wasted deskspace) and front accessible ports. IP: Logged |
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MeToo unregistered |
posted January 18, 2002 21:19
Uh... Where's the IR port for the mouse and keyboard? You forgot the Palm/iPad cradle!!! Dedicated front panel jacks for AV would be nice, too. Real Geeks have tape backups, and I for one am tired of having to open the side door of my G4 to change tapes. Re speakers: one woofer in the tower, stereo tweeters in the handles of the flat panel display. IP: Logged |
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David Dennis unregistered |
posted January 18, 2002 22:18
It's odd how similar this is to a current Sony PC I've seen in the stores: http://www.sonystyle.com/vaio/mx/index.shtml I have to say it does look good, but after seeing pricing compared to lesser Sony models with identical specifications, my enthusiasm dimmed considerably. The pretty case is costing you about $1,000! D IP: Logged |
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iballoondesign Alpha Geek Posts: 283 |
posted January 18, 2002 22:34
where is iPDA? IP: Logged |
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flyermoney unregistered |
posted January 19, 2002 07:01
PowerSlab G5 info update: Bregalad: The front panel "ugliness" as said is pretty much taken in consideration, design wise... The assymetrical 3 USB - 1 FireWire (MeToo: FireWire IS an AV port, remember DV? And check FireWire-based Audio and Midi mLan at Yamaha...) layout between the two speakers suggest some kind of "Frankenstein" grin, with a tooth (the FW connector) prodding out at the left... I like that goofy manga-frankenmac look, it spells "over-powered P4-crushing math-monster" or "mutant bug-eyed superbrain from planet X" The three mini-jacks on the front panel are: 1) Mic In, 2) Line In, and 3) Headphones Out, I think it could be possible to turn the 3rd connector into a hybrid Phones Out - 2nd Line In, but I'm no audiowhiz, maybe someone could confirm the feasability... The front screws are in line with the screw system of the current G4 towers and the look of the late but gorgeous 17" Flat CRT StudioDisplay... They gives sturdiness, as a fact and a look, and their positions, with the power button in the middle, tell you that the monster is powered by X... MeeToo: Anyway the PowerSlab G5 has built-in AirPort/AirWave (FireWire over AirPort? someday...) and BlueTooth, so the machine couldn't be more prepared for the wireless future. IR will die any minute soon, the moment the big guys get their act together and introduce BlueTooth as the standard low-distance wireless communication solution for palmtops, small peripherals and input devices... Hope it wont suck up to much energy tho. Frankly, I don't see any computer manufacturer adding the development and production cost of including a palmtop cradle to a desktop machine. For starters, USB cradles are standard issue for a lot of palmtops... Secondly, there's no standard for palmtop connectors, you'd have to BTO the built-in cradle to fit your particular model of palmtop. Lastly, you'd have to assume that EVERY potential PowerSlab G5 buyer has a palmtop, or wishes to integrate it that tightly to her/his workstation, which I don't believe is the case... So why up the general costs to satisfy the demands of a small minority? DrBoar: The second 5"1/4 bay IS for the next big thing... (;njoy!) IP: Logged |
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Evilbunny Highlie 
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posted January 19, 2002 14:50
Hmmm, needs to have everything on front execpt for the main power plug socket, monitor and keyboard sockets... IP: Logged |
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Nitrozac Moderator
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posted January 20, 2002 12:12
This design seems like a logical evolution of where the latest Apple designs are headed. You know, I've always thought that the plugs in the back of the computers was most awkward. It's always been a pain to plug and unplug, etc. Apple wants to make digital hubs, they should put the plugs in an easy access spot, ideally in the front. It's up to the designers to make it look good, and functionality shouldn't be sacrificed for form. Would you agree? Wireless connections would be the ultimate! IP: Logged |
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W��k�l unregistered |
posted January 20, 2002 19:35
Yeap, maybe instaed of the good old 'Good, better, Best" lineup of products, Apple should have "Functional, Balanced, and Freakin' Sexy".... IP: Logged |
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Miami unregistered |
posted January 20, 2002 23:18
How about havin the ports on the side instead? Ports in front with cables hanging out looks equally awkward. Just a thot. IP: Logged |
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flyermoney unregistered |
posted January 21, 2002 01:04
quote: Well, which side?... Nitrozac's right, in front is as accessible as accessible can be... So long. PS. Expect a surprise introduction from Aorta Computers Inc. this monday, right here in this forum! Hint: No connectors... IP: Logged |
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flyermoney unregistered |
posted January 21, 2002 01:26
quote: LOL! Funny you're mentioning it, you'll like the Aorta Computers product line... flyermoney quote'o'the day: (;njoy!) IP: Logged |
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Swiss Mercenary BlabberMouth, the Next Generation.     
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posted January 21, 2002 03:09
flyermoney, are you sure that I do not know you IRL? Did you not go to Ecolint? IP: Logged |
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flyermoney unregistered |
posted January 21, 2002 06:08
quote: Nope, My mom went there tho, I guess I hanged out there a couple of times during events 15 yrs ago... Sorry... IP: Logged |
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flyermoney unregistered |
posted January 21, 2002 06:11
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Ben Geek
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posted January 21, 2002 08:01
great stuff, if only the non-apple computers looked half as good as yours. is that a quantum computer, with no vents, in the sealed cube? IP: Logged |
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Swiss Mercenary BlabberMouth, the Next Generation.
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posted January 21, 2002 08:49
quote:Hmm, that might be why the name sounds familiar. Anyway if your mother went to Ecolint, then she might know of my father. The name is Jennings, ring any bells? The Aorta stuff is great, I would love one of those G5's, or the iPad or the Q4. IP: Logged |
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flyermoney unregistered |
posted January 21, 2002 09:39
Thanks! Yup, that's a solid-state molecular datacube autonomous quantum super duper computer, no ports, no vents, shake compatible QuantumPort(tm) media in front of the cube, it automatically appears on the desktop... Kewl! Take Care! IP: Logged |
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flyermoney unregistered |
posted January 21, 2002 09:42
SwissMerc: I'll ask my mom... Take care IP: Logged |
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-hh unregistered |
posted January 23, 2002 07:14
Hate to say it, but we have to kill the old paradigm of a classical PC "Tower"...at least in the conventional sense. I don't have Adobe Illustrator to provide a neat picture, but this is what I'd suggest: First, think of the current workstation desktop with an LCD display. The LCD gave us more room on the desk, but where is it? Its behind the display. The paradigm of the tower needing to be NEXT to the display (or hidden under the desk) is what is getting shot down. So... 1. Turn the Tower's box 90 degrees, and slide it _behind_ the LCD monitor. 2. Where do your ports and bays now belong? Probably not on the old "front" or old "back", because they're now the sides. They belong on the new front, which until a moment ago, the "side". This is particularly the case if you add a floating LCD monitor (ala 2002 iMac). To access them, you lift up your LCD, and pull it back down when you're done, just like on the new iMac. Personally, I'd right justify most of the stuff, because I'm right-handed. 3. Add to the mix a two-button wheel mouse with a very short pigtail, because its only ~6" from a USB port. Nah...Steve will never go there ;-)
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Norb unregistered |
posted January 23, 2002 08:27
How about an iPod port on top? Looks good kinda like the new Sony PC. IP: Logged |
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flyermoney unregistered |
posted January 23, 2002 09:34
quote: All suggestions noted (insightful, hadn't thought of the tower in that way, good points!) for future revisions of the Aorta Computers line, save that last one. I doubt Apple will provide mice with buttons anytime soon... Here's why, IMHO: As noted before somewhere else in the forum, Job's is the all-time sucker (a-t-s #0, I'm #1) for zen design. There's a very down-to-earth reason for not having multibutton and scrolly wheels: carpal tunnel syndrome. Gien the fact that I have used keyboards since the Commodore 64 and the mouse since Amiga, plus 12 years of desktop design and the odd fall, my wrists have taken a beatin... I have a ContourDesign 3-button mouse and frankly, after a couple of hours of use, I ache... However I find that clicking the wheel in the nifty 3rd button-click'n'drag-to-scroll is really fast and intuitive. Why people still torture their index by scrolling the damn thing is beyond me. I picture Logitech facing legal charges in some 5-10 years for selling products that are a potential harm to customers, not mentioning suck up batteries worldwide at an alarming rate with their radio-gismology... The scroll-wheel is practical, but NOT good design, I won't walk you through a whole argumentary, but basically the index's tendon gets stretched way too much & too often, and that spells "Ouch" after years of use... No button is the way to go, though there could be a better implementation of the mouse-driver, with a set of smart behaviour-oriented click-variations like the "click-and-a-half" to navigate through MacOS 9's springloaded folders. Apple introduced the actual keyboard layout of modern laptops, where it's stacked to the bottom of the screen, providing built-in "wristpads" over the remainder of the case. That's a Very Good Move Ideed(tm), the best example of that logic being the original clam-shell ibook, a real soothing typing experience with smooth and soft bulging curves, certainly not the paragon of compacity, but I could'nt think of a computer design more adapted to our soft and fragile skin... (Judging by the comparatively stern looks of the actual Apple laptops (I love'em tho), you'd think they where made for the Bicentennial Man (the man we love to hate)... I've grown very accustomed to my Pimo 400's trackpad (negative impact on my tendons: close to none) and I rarely use the button as I "tap-to-click". Beats everything else. So long. IP: Logged |
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flyermoney unregistered |
posted January 23, 2002 11:44
Here's a little link recap: http://www.applele.com/ http://homepage.mac.com/benvp/Menu7.html http://homepage.mac.com/flyermoney/aorta/ (;njoy!) IP: Logged |
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jfbiii unregistered |
posted January 23, 2002 16:57
quote:Are you mad, man!!!!! The mouse wire is ALREADY too short. When the hell is Apple going to wake up and treat our hands to the feast of good design the way they do our eyes??? Give us an Apple-designed ergonomic keyboard. Mine is still ADB, which of course has no USB connectors...so to use the more comfortable hocky-puck mouse (it's the extra width that helps for hand comfort) I either have to do really uncomfortable things with my hub like putting it very near my work surface or plug up the extra keyboard where it doesn't belong and clutter up my desktop. Give us an ergodynamic Apple Keyboard and a mouse cord that can stretch further than a measly 20" or so. IP: Logged |
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macadddikt18 SuperBlabberMouth!
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posted January 23, 2002 18:56
Oh, apple, come and make us a longer mouse cord. Make it so long it gets anoying and we complain about that too. Then make us a keyboard cable that is really really long. That way we can complain about that as well. Then make the cables the smae length so we will quite complaining about it. Nayt ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MeToo unregistered |
posted January 23, 2002 22:09
The Quantum Cube should appeal to Jobs. No slots, no connectors, everything goes in and out through quantum state shifts. Does it run on batteries or broadcast power? btw, does PHz stand for PicoHertz? I'd want mine to be faster than that! I've had it up to here with wires! Too short, too long, messing up my desktop, dragging across my papers. Wireless is the only way to go for peripherals. Less is more. Actually, I'm rethinking the whole keyboard/mouse thingy. I feel a better solution would be a video camera tracking my eye movements for the mouse (blink twice to click) and lip reading to replace the keyboard. Two more items removed from the desktop! IP: Logged |
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macadddikt18 SuperBlabberMouth!
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posted January 24, 2002 05:51
Quantum cube? Where would one find one of those at? Nayt ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Brad Farfenugan unregistered |
posted January 24, 2002 13:18
I would be surprised if Apple's next Power Mac enclosure was so obviously a variation on the tower theme. They have been working hard to make the box go away, but then again, the only non-tower Power Mac in the last while was the Cube, so who knows? Personally, I hope it is tall and skinny and has both flip out legs for standing on its side, and flip out rack ears so that you can turn it horizontal and screw it into a standard 19" equipment rack. Alternatively, the legs or ears could be included and easy to screw on or off. Equipment racks are widespread in server rooms, ISP's, the entertainment industry (live music shows, music studios, video studios, and more), and render farms and other installations. I guess they are probably also used when people cluster 50 computers into a supercomputer. If you're going to have a separate box (and the Power Mac is the only Apple line that does), then why not make the box flexible enough to go anywhere that "separate box" computers are used? Sun has 1U rackable servers that run Intel chips, and they're used just for serving Web sites. Mac OS X Server needs some kind of hardware to call its own, too. It costs about $300 to rack the current Power Mac, with an adapter from Marathon Computers, and although this works quite well, on the PC side you can just order a PC in a rackable case in the first place. Another option would be that the Power Mac would just be a rackable computer, which you can optionally get with an enclosure around it. So, every Power Mac would essentially be a small equipment rack (beautifully styled, of course) with just the Power Mac in it. You could remove the Power Mac from its own little rack and rack it into a bigger rack, or order it without the shell (by the dozens or hundreds if you like) and rack it immediately. Apple is also all about standards, and the 19" equipment rack is definitely a standard. I'd really like to see their separate-box computer fit smoothly into any installation. The people who are doing installations in entertainment would almost cry to see such a thing, because the Mac is the number one choice in pro audio and video and similar. IP: Logged |
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elasticmedia unregistered |
posted January 24, 2002 13:30
Yo flyermoney, I have heard your kind of opinion out there about multimouses, and I just don't buy it. In fact, I am suspicious that kind of opinion comes out of some UI book rather than out of practical knowledge. I have used the MicroShaft Intellimouse Exploder mouse for a couple of years and I think it is a very strong mouse. Not perfect - and easily improved (which won't happen) but still a great gift to your hands in regards to carpal tunnel and ease of operation. The scroll wheel takes less effort to operate than pressing the normal button. So rather than moving to the mouse to the scroll bar and clicking on the scroll button or bar with the left mouse button, I can gently scroll down without moving the mouse and without moving my hand. For right mouse ops, I don't have to use two hands because I don't have to hit the control key. For command-shift clicking (open an IE link in a new window in back of the current window) I just click the scroll button down (it's a button) way easier and easier on the body. The scroll-wheel is practical, but NOT good design, I won't walk you through a whole argumentary, but basically the index's tendon gets stretched way too much & too often, and that spells "Ouch" after years of use... No button is the way to go, though there could be a better implementation of the mouse-driver, with a set of smart behaviour-oriented click-variations like the "click-and-a-half" to navigate through MacOS 9's springloaded folders. IP: Logged |
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flyermoney unregistered |
posted January 24, 2002 13:47
quote: Well, mine own pain tells me that finger-clicking is not a good idea... I've used the non-button Apple Pro Mouse a couple of times, and found that there is practically no stress in the finger. You slightly press the hand down, as opposed to repeatedly click with one or two, let alone three fingers... I avoid those kind of gymnastics now, the tappable touchpad is tops for me weathered palms.. IP: Logged |
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flyermoney unregistered |
posted January 24, 2002 13:55
quote: Kewl! I'm back to the mental drawing boards, rack-mountable, of course, how obvious! The cube put on its back with connectors in full sight! Very Good Idea Indeed(tm)! Soon... IP: Logged |
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love unregistered |
posted January 24, 2002 17:30
quote: P stands for Peta 1000 x 1000 x 1000 x 1000 x 1000 x 1000 pico is p, not P 1 /1000 /1000 /1000 love, IP: Logged |
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Bregalad Super Geek
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posted January 24, 2002 17:37
quote: pHz would be picoHertz 10^-12 IP: Logged |
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macadddikt18 SuperBlabberMouth!
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posted January 24, 2002 18:45
come on. what the heck is a quantum computer? Nayt IP: Logged |
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