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TORDONOFFON
Geek-in-Training

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From: Annapolis Wa. USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 25, 2002 11:07     Click Here to See the Profile for TORDONOFFON   Click Here to Email TORDONOFFON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HEY GEEKS ! How do we like Jaguar ?
Should I jump on it or wait ?
My Daddy [ IBM lifer from the punch card era.] always told me "Son NEVER be an early adopter."
Do they have Jaguar together yet ?
Somehow I am NOT too excited by iChat.

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maxomai
Super Geek

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From: Portland, OR
Registered: May 2001

posted July 25, 2002 12:47     Click Here to See the Profile for maxomai   Click Here to Email maxomai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TORDONOFFON:
HEY GEEKS ! How do we like Jaguar ?
Should I jump on it or wait ?
My Daddy [ IBM lifer from the punch card era.] always told me "Son NEVER be an early adopter."
Do they have Jaguar together yet ?
Somehow I am NOT too excited by iChat.

I assume you're referring to this?

If so, I'm not sure what the big deal is. But then data systems aren't my cup of tea. It doesn't look that new to me, frankly.

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Bregalad
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From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Registered: Jan 2002

posted July 25, 2002 19:31     Click Here to See the Profile for Bregalad   Click Here to Email Bregalad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Max, you're obviously not a Mac user.

I think it'll be safe to be an early adopter of MacOS X 10.2. I plan to be one.

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daveyt
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From: Vancouver, BC
Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 25, 2002 20:54     Click Here to See the Profile for daveyt   Click Here to Email daveyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got to concur with Bregalad's conclusion. I'm with Jaguar all the way. Rendezvous looks to be super sweet. But then, my experience with Mac OSes starts with OS X 10.0. I've always been an early adopter. Sometimes it costs a bit more, but it sure is fun!

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What the..?! How'd I get here?

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DigitalBill
Alpha Geek

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From: The TiBook, on the WLAN, nothin' but Net!
Registered: Jan 2001

posted July 25, 2002 21:19     Click Here to See the Profile for DigitalBill   Click Here to Email DigitalBill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll let you know soon...

Although as a developer we are under non-disclosure regarding discussing the specifics, I think it will be safe to post some impressions and observations.

I'll be installing the beta of Jaguar ("jag-wahr" or "jag-u-ar", not "jag-wire", Steve) on my test Mac this weekend.

I will say that the build they were running at Macworld Expo last week (an earlier one than we have) was very smooth, with many cool features. As I told Rednivek on IRC, the true test of whether you should early-adopt or not is how soon companies start putting "Requires Mac OS 10.2" on their products!

Of course, I've been running 10.1 full time since a month before release, so I may be biased.

=bd

According to the Apple Legal Geniuses Non-Disclosure Agreement, I was never here, and I never posted this.

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- - e r i k - -
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Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 25, 2002 22:46     Click Here to See the Profile for - - e r i k - -   Click Here to Email - - e r i k - -     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm running 6C75 now (current builds up in the hundreds), and it's great! Being beta and all it has it's quirks, but it literally breathes new life into my aging G4 400. And that's WITHOUT a Quartz Extreme-supported video-card. It's at least as fast as OS 9 ever was. This upgrade is a no-brainer.

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Bregalad
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posted July 26, 2002 00:35     Click Here to See the Profile for Bregalad   Click Here to Email Bregalad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually have developer access too, but I don't run betas on my home system and the Mac is a minority platform at work and there is no will to port our older than the hills Mac software to OS X. The future, so our leaders say, lies in .NET enhanced web applications running inside Internet Explorer.

On that subject I must say that our developers are doing some pretty amazing stuff with .NET technology. Not only have we got previously impossible capabilities on web pages, but our applications are exchanging data with PDAs and sending messages to pagers and cell phones. Much as I hate the Redmond monopoly, I can't help but be impressed by what the people around me are doing with its software.

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ASM65816
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posted July 26, 2002 01:00     Click Here to See the Profile for ASM65816   Click Here to Email ASM65816     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As much as the new releases may be considered cutting-edge, because it's Unix, I only consider it to be bringing a "port" up to speed.

I do intend to get Jaguar as soon as possible, but assuming that there is an Ultimate version of Unix ..... All platforms are simply applying Bug Fixes to their Implementation in an effort to Reach the Divine Status......

Still, I wish I spent more time in Technical / Academic Pursuits of Knowledge..........

One day, I will create an AI that puts all Lawyers out of work, and they have to pursue careers in Sliced Tubor Deep-Fat Fryer Operation (at McDonalds).

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Once a proud programmer of Apple II's, he now spends his days and nights in cheap dives fraternizing with exotic dancers....

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littlefish
Super Geek

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From: Edinburgh, UK
Registered: Nov 2001

posted July 26, 2002 01:11     Click Here to See the Profile for littlefish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, get it. As it is 10.2, it's not really early adoption. That started back at 10.0, and it seems as though the problems are sorted. I'm still miffed that I have to pay (nearly) full price for it. The educational discount helps, but there should be a cheaper upgrade from 10.1 I reckon.

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ilovemydualg4
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From: *GASP* THE 3RD DIMMENSION
Registered: Mar 2002

posted July 26, 2002 03:23     Click Here to See the Profile for ilovemydualg4   Click Here to Email ilovemydualg4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i had installed the first beta to 10.2, as i too, have dev. access. I don't think that it's still against the nda anyway, because the product has been released, but w/e....
ichat: duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude-so much nicer that aim
springloaded folders, finally
i wanted to try ink, but it wasn't fully implemented, and i couldn't figure out how to get to it
new mail is great
sherlock i didn't get to
i can't use quartz extreme


overall impression: awesome

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Hazards: "There is an island of opportunity in the middle of every difficulty, miss that, though, and you're pretty much doomed."

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TORDONOFFON
Geek-in-Training

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From: Annapolis Wa. USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 26, 2002 11:03     Click Here to See the Profile for TORDONOFFON   Click Here to Email TORDONOFFON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THANKS ALL, You have eased my mind and made Apple 120 bucks. That one click shopping is dangerous. I mean it's OK for Amazon but at Apple.com you can get into real trouble fast. Well I can get into real trouble fast anywhere. Good pooint about it being UNIX. They are NEVER going to get a final version so may as well jump in now or you will be waiting for ever.

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ZorroTheFox
BlabberMouth, the Next Generation.

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From: Milton, WA, USA
Registered: Oct 2001

posted August 01, 2002 17:57     Click Here to See the Profile for ZorroTheFox   Click Here to Email ZorroTheFox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always wanted a nice E-type Myself........Z

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TORDONOFFON
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From: Annapolis Wa. USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted August 18, 2002 10:35     Click Here to See the Profile for TORDONOFFON   Click Here to Email TORDONOFFON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shoot me now. My copy of Jag. should hit my doorstep about the same time I hit the Playa for my anual desert time.

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