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snupy
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posted July 03, 2002 17:05     Click Here to See the Profile for snupy   Click Here to Email snupy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me again. I keep getting "a runtime error has occured-do you wish to debug?" message. Help!!(I don't actually know what debugging means, of course.)

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Bregalad
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posted July 04, 2002 00:20     Click Here to See the Profile for Bregalad   Click Here to Email Bregalad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sounds like you're encountering a script error on a web page. In all likelihood the error is at the other end so the only things you can do are inform the site's webmaster and/or avoid visiting.

Debugging isn't going to give you any assistance. Let the site authors track down the bug.

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posted July 04, 2002 01:16     Click Here to See the Profile for GameMaster   Click Here to Email GameMaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like you have a programming language installed... When ever a page has a bad script or a program crashes Microsoft Deveoper Studio 6 gives me a message asking me to debug.... If you aren't comfortable playing with other peoples code don't debug and let the program crash or the page load without the troublesome script. If your curious: say yes, look at the code, and if you get comfident enough, you may attempt to debug their code... If you do, you may want to e-mail them the fix (or at least e-mail them telling them their script has an error).

Debugging is rid programs of errors... The Debugging in windows is typically done in the Microsoft tradition, that is release a patch after the people complain enough to warrnet putting a team of programmers on it, forcing the people to downlod it from a page covered in MSN and .NET ads, and issuing a press release saying it really isn't a bug at all... it's a feature.

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posted July 04, 2002 05:34     Click Here to See the Profile for snupy   Click Here to Email snupy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bregalad:
That sounds like you're encountering a script error on a web page. In all likelihood the error is at the other end so the only things you can do are inform the site's webmaster and/or avoid visiting.

Debugging isn't going to give you any assistance. Let the site authors track down the bug.


Avoid visiting ebay??Oh, how cruel. I can stop anytime I want, though. Really.

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uilleann
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posted July 04, 2002 05:55     Click Here to See the Profile for uilleann   Click Here to Email uilleann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I somewhat doubt you'll have a software development package installed, if you aren't a programmer. You might be seeing the Microsoft JavaScript debugger, or there might be ActiveX or Java objects on the page with bugs in which are triggering some other kind of debugger shipped with Windows to offer assistance.

A bug is simply a programming error in a program (or web page, mIRC script, or whatever), either in the program itself, or in the operating system itself or whatever other API (application programming interface) it relies on to do all the fundamental work for it. Debugging is the process of finding out what the problem is and fixing it, or reporting it on to who is responsible (Apple, Microsoft etc).

Web pages can contain embedded pieces of code to do various things, such as open a new window, hide and show parts of the page, check forms to see that they contain valid data and show an error if you click submit when they don't. This code (JavaScript, VBScript) can contain mistakes, and the browser might tell you if it does. Normally, you can request the browser to stop bothering you with such errors, but if you have some more complex development tool installed, I don't think you can.

I've clicked Debug in the past, and usually it just hauls up some hefty and annoying program that does nothing of any use to me and may even crash, I'm not sure, but it was a nuisance.

The trick is, I assume, to turn those messages off, at the source of whatever is generating them. Someone here should know :) Though, you won't then be able to report the problem :)

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snupy
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posted July 04, 2002 06:21     Click Here to See the Profile for snupy   Click Here to Email snupy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It says "syntax error" and then gives a line# or something

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uilleann
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posted July 04, 2002 09:09     Click Here to See the Profile for uilleann   Click Here to Email uilleann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The normal IE script debugger can be turned off with Tools > Internet Options > Advanced > Browsing > [x] Disable script debugging.

Try that.

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posted July 04, 2002 09:11     Click Here to See the Profile for quantumfluff   Click Here to Email quantumfluff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, with the syntax and line # part, it's almost certainly a error in some javascript on the page. The web designer got too fancy for their own abilities. IMO, any time you get a problem on a page, the website did not do sufficient testing. Or, to phrase it in a way that pisses off my web designer friends, if the page does not image correctly in IE 5.0 or greater AND netscape 4.7 or greater on windows, mac and unix, then it's the fault of the web page, not the browser.

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posted July 04, 2002 14:20     Click Here to See the Profile for GameMaster   Click Here to Email GameMaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you have a line number, I'd e-mail e-bay about it, and then turn off debugging. U, I guess installation of Developer Studio turned on page debugging then, because It wasn't untill I installed MS dev 6, that I got began to see them. The funny part, is that IE crashing (browser, not pages) is the most often thing to cause the "Do you want to debug?" to pop-up...

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uilleann
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posted July 04, 2002 15:32     Click Here to See the Profile for uilleann   Click Here to Email uilleann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you have a line number...
Heh, line numbers... oh, the sheer tremendous joy of line numbers. Microsoft never cottoned on to the idea that, with server-side processing, the line number given won't correspond to the actual line number in the code...

U, I guess installation of Developer Studio turned on page debugging then...
Basic IE JavaScript errors may be on by default, may be off. I forget; I do know that there is a tick box both in Mac IE and Win IE where you can opt to make them go away. The wording snupy originally used is the wording used by the Visual Development studio debugger, I think, and presumably the MS JavaScript debugger too unless snupy has some development software she's not telling us about (another psych test on us all? ;-). I'm running Windows 98 at work, upgraded badly (typical Microsoft) to 2000, so I have bits missing. Steve is vehement that I get the MS script debugger (which seemed to come with 2k when I installed it on another machine) but I don't want any more junk on my PC, and instead use the nifty debugger in Netscape 6.2. The built-in IE debugger is more of a nuisance than a help anyhow.

The funny part, is that IE crashing (browser, not pages) is the most often thing to cause the "Do you want to debug?" to pop-up...
Stupid thing wants to debug everything :) Yeah, I've had that at uni I think (all the labs PCs run Visual Studio), not that I want an assembly dump or whatever it was it gave me.

- uilleann

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snupy
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posted July 04, 2002 17:12     Click Here to See the Profile for snupy   Click Here to Email snupy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by uilleann:
The normal IE script debugger can be turned off with Tools > Internet Options > Advanced > Browsing > [x] Disable script debugging.

Try that.

- uilleann


Thanks for being so specific, Uilleann-I need it. Ok, I disabled it-I'll let you know what happens.

Thanks, everybody!

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