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DUCT TAPE
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posted April 11, 2002 12:21     Click Here to See the Profile for DUCT TAPE   Click Here to Email DUCT TAPE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm running 10.1.3 and once in a while i don't put my computer to sleep when i go to bed, mostly because i stumbled into my room at an obsurdly late hour and didn't think enough to put it to sleep. any way when wake up into the morning everything has quit, finders been relaunched and the only thing running is aim because its in my login items. any thoughts on why? normally the only things that would be runing are aim and mabey itunes. please help me because people start talking to me when i log back into aim and it wakes me. heven forbid i get up early :P

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GameMaster
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posted April 11, 2002 14:51     Click Here to See the Profile for GameMaster   Click Here to Email GameMaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have os X... but one thing does comes to mind... is the connection to the internet a dial-up? If so, it could that you lose the connection during the night, and AIM forces a new connection since it is part of the log-on... My ideas would poke around AIM and set it disconnect after T min/hrs inactive.

Just a thought.

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DUCT TAPE
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posted April 11, 2002 18:07     Click Here to See the Profile for DUCT TAPE   Click Here to Email DUCT TAPE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nope, school network

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supaboy
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posted April 11, 2002 19:26     Click Here to See the Profile for supaboy   Click Here to Email supaboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to have something similar happen to me with my Linux box years ago. Occasionally, I would come back and I would be at a login screen. I could tell fromt the uptime that the machine wasn't rebooting.

I finally found out that there the 3-D OpenGL screen savers were capable of crashing my X (window system) server. The display manager would detect that X server had stopped, and restart it, bringing up the login box.

These days, I don't have any trouble with any screensavers. First, a lot of bugfixes cleared that up, and I don't run them anymore because that would take CPU cycles from the GeekCulture Team RC5 effort.

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MacManKrisK
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posted April 11, 2002 22:57     Click Here to See the Profile for MacManKrisK   Click Here to Email MacManKrisK     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have OS X set to autologin when you boot? If so, maybe the machine is restarting for whatever reason. A workaround (read: not really a fix) would be to turn off autologin (in the Users System Preference Panel, I think...no...Login maybe?, well, it's in one of those two). Just grabbing at straws here.

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Stereo
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posted April 12, 2002 03:42     Click Here to See the Profile for Stereo   Click Here to Email Stereo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another possible hint: is software update set on automatic at a 'middle of the night' time, every day? Lot of time the updates requires a reboot. And that's the only way I reboot. In any way, it looks like a automatic thing. Take a good look through your system preference.

Keep us informed of your progress!

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DUCT TAPE
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posted April 12, 2002 08:03     Click Here to See the Profile for DUCT TAPE   Click Here to Email DUCT TAPE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i do have software update set on automatic, but should only go once a week, and it asks me what i want to install, but i'll try turning that off tonight

i do have automatic login turned on. i'll check my uptime tomarow to see if its restarting or just quiting window manager (that has the same effect as loging back in)

i havn't installed any other screensaves and i don't think i even have the standard screen savers turned on

thanks for all the help i'll update you tomarow.

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omega996
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posted April 12, 2002 14:06     Click Here to See the Profile for omega996   Click Here to Email omega996     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm, sounds like it's crashing. do you have a screen saver set up? what sort of hardware do you have?

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posted April 12, 2002 14:27     Click Here to See the Profile for DUCT TAPE   Click Here to Email DUCT TAPE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no funnky hardwere just the mouse keyboard speakers and printer i've been using all along before any problems started. i just took everything out of my login items.
i do belive this started hapining after i installed the 10.1.3 update coulsd it posibly have anything to do with that?

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xforward
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posted April 12, 2002 20:15     Click Here to See the Profile for xforward   Click Here to Email xforward     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a daily script that runs at 3:15 a.m. perhaps something related to that script is going wrong.

I manage 4 X-servers at my primary worksite, and I have helped set up another 12 or so X based servers. I can say that on my servers, and X client machines I have set up, I have never seen them auto-reboot overnight without a crash.

If you really want to dig, look at the /var/log/system.log file and see what it says in there.

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Lex
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posted April 12, 2002 22:35     Click Here to See the Profile for Lex   Click Here to Email Lex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't suppose it could be brief power outages? Of course, any sort of reboot would cause the system startup sound to play, unless it just logged out and then in. It is possible that the sound could play and not wake you up, but put your brain on the alert for further sounds. Then when people IM you, these sounds are picked up.

Anyway, why not press the mute button before going to bed?

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Geordie
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posted April 13, 2002 06:12     Click Here to See the Profile for Geordie   Click Here to Email Geordie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You might want to try turning on "Log crash information" in the Console.app Preferences. I don't expect the information in the reports will be helpful to someone who is not familar with mach and bsd programming, but if you open up the ~/Library/Logs/ directory and sort by date you will at least know what the last application that crashed was. Setting AIM so that it does not login automatically would be my immediate workaround though. I find that feature annoying anyway.

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MacManKrisK
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posted April 13, 2002 16:15     Click Here to See the Profile for MacManKrisK   Click Here to Email MacManKrisK     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lex:
[B}Then when people IM you, these sounds are picked up.[/B]

Actually, I would think that just being a geek and an AIM user, your ears would be CONSTANTLY on alert for the AIM :BLING: sound.

I know that I can hear mine all the way in the kitchen even with my bedroom door closed (that's a pretty long way).

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DUCT TAPE
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posted April 13, 2002 16:23     Click Here to See the Profile for DUCT TAPE   Click Here to Email DUCT TAPE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i do here the sound, and when i aim relaunchs people start trying to talk to me and it wakes me up. the computer isn't restarting, i think its just reloging me in like if i was to go to process viewer and quit windows manager.

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omega996
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posted April 14, 2002 10:08     Click Here to See the Profile for omega996   Click Here to Email omega996     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm sorry, i meant what model of macintosh are you running 10.1.3 on? it quite possibly could have something to do with a particular model and 10.1.3.

is your system set up to put itself to sleep? or are you running classic?

as someone mentioned, enabling the crash logging might help out a bit. otherwise the system logs aren't likely to be of much help - on my machine, (pb g4) they don't even keep track of system startup/shutdown times... *sigh*

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Originally posted by DUCT TAPE:
no funnky hardwere just the mouse keyboard speakers and printer i've been using all along before any problems started. i just took everything out of my login items.
i do belive this started hapining after i installed the 10.1.3 update coulsd it posibly have anything to do with that?

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DUCT TAPE
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posted April 16, 2002 08:59     Click Here to See the Profile for DUCT TAPE   Click Here to Email DUCT TAPE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it turns out seti decides to crash on me every morning at at 4:43 am the funny thing is that seti wasn't even running. i've left my computer with no apps running so now i know what is causing the problem, sort of, i just need to fix it
and thanks for all the help you all have given me i was presently surprised by all the quick answers i got. they've actually been better then answers i've gotten off of mac sites. thanks again

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targetdrone
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posted April 29, 2002 12:36     Click Here to See the Profile for targetdrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
on the aim log on screen is the "sign on at launch" box checked?

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