1. Adult entertainment is one of the few industries that always seems to make money, and

2. I prefer to be around non-judgemental people, and it seems like most people in the porn biz would have to be open-minded.

Seriously, I know I saw an article in one of the online newsmags (whether it was BBC, Yahoo news, Wired, or Salon, I dunno... at least I know it wasn't SegFault) about this very thing, about 6 months ago.

The porn industry seems to be a very insiders-crowd -- everyone knows everyone who's pulling strings and everyone gets work based on exploiting those connections.

Open-mindedness seems as rare in this industry as it does in any other -- there's just a different set of preconceptions. Degrees do not seem to be an issue; if you know your stuff and can demonstrate it, but you still have to know someone who knows someone to get to the point where you can demonstrate anything.

As a woman trying to get into the backend, you're probably better off going for an indie producer like Dani Ashe or Jenna Jameons's new company, or trying to get a gig for a feature performer who does her own business and promotion like Summer Cummings. Most of the older, more established networks are old boy networks, with all the inherant disadvantages and strikes against women one would expect. Curiously enough, the indies are also a lot less flakey, even though they don't for the most part have as many resources. (Maybe that's why, actually -- they've got less to work with so they've got to keep an eye on all of it to make it work.)

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Originally posted by Apollyon-SM:
porn is evil!!!

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No, I don't think so. No pornographer has ever called me up during dinner to sell me something I don't need. I don't think any have ever started a war. They probably pay their taxes on time and are careful about complying with the regulations which apply to them.

I've done work for evil people. I regret it, but I was much younger at the time and did not really understand how evil they were until later. It was a company, actually two companies, that sold tips on football games to compulsive gamblers. This is perfectly legal. They don't take bets, just sell advice. If you got a bad tip from company A one week, the sales guy from B would call you on monday morning and ask "How did you do this weekend?". "You lost, right. Should have brought the tip from me".

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No pornographer has ever called me up during dinner to sell me something I don't need.

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Have they never filled up your inbox with spam? True, that isn't an issue specific to porn (or true of everyone in the industry) , but a spammer is a spammer and spammers are (IMO) unquestionably evil.

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Originally posted by quantumfluff:
They probably pay their taxes on time and are careful about complying with the regulations which apply to them.

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Erm...

The really big ones like playboy and penthouse, maybe. The shifting standards from state to state necessarily render this entire industry in somewhat of a grey area, legally, and it's not at all uncommon for pornographers to let a regulation here or a tax declaration there slide -- always "inadvertantly" of course.

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Originally posted by Apollyon-SM:
porn is evil!!!

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No, spam is evil.

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Originally posted by Apollyon-SM:
Porn may not be evil, but i think it's an bad thing to do.

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Pays better than flippin burgers...

Anyway, thanks for the advice and the articles, y'all.

I already live within commuting distance of LA... maybe I can find some nice lady pornstar to adopt me as her personal database flunky

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Porn may not be evil, but i think it's an bad thing to do.

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Why? If somebody loves being a sex object, why shouldn't they make a living at it? We should all be lucky enough to get paid good money to do something that's (in theory, at least) fun

With all the browsers I've used (MSIE, Netscape 4.x, Mozilla, Galeon), if you hit the "back" button, your text of your post will still be available, so you can simply go "back", (re)type in your password, and re"submit"

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Originally posted by EngrBohn:
With all the browsers I've used (MSIE, Netscape 4.x, Mozilla, Galeon), if you hit the "back" button, your text of your post will still be available, so you can simply go "back", (re)type in your password, and re"submit"

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Yeah, I tried that, but all that was there was the first quote I was trying to reply to.

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D'oh! I had a big multi-post reply typed up, and I forgot to enter my password before I hit the Submit button so it all got lost.

With all the browsers I've used (MSIE, Netscape 4.x, Mozilla, Galeon), if you hit the "back" button, your text of your post will still be available, so you can simply go "back", (re)type in your password, and re"submit"

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1) I can't work at a local movie house because of it (I am a minor)

2) Most molestors start out watching porn and that is the sickest thing anyone can do to another human being.

I am not going to say that all people watch porn will end up like that I am just saying that it is a lot of the times how it starts.

Or perhaps Johnny-the-troubled-youth actually did kill himslef becuase he read violent commics.

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Originally posted by geekdivachica:
2) Most molestors start out watching porn and that is the sickest thing anyone can do to another human being.

I am not going to say that all people watch porn will end up like that I am just saying that it is a lot of the times how it starts.

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There's no question that molestors are sick, but I think they were probably sick before they ever discovered porn. There's gotta be something fundamentally warped in a person's mind for them to seriously consider molesting a child or raping somebody, and it's pretty unlikely that just looking at pictures (no matter how twisted the subject matter) could make a normal person want to do that. IOW, the porn is the symptom, not the cause, y'know?

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Originally posted by geekdivachica:
2) Most molestors start out watching porn and that is the sickest thing anyone can do to another human being.

I am not going to say that all people watch porn will end up like that I am just saying that it is a lot of the times how it starts.

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Given the current political climate in the United States (I'm risking being an Ugly American and assumuing that's where we're talking about) I'm sure that if there was any definitive evidence of a causal link between porn and child molestation, that porn would be made illegeal at a federal level overnight.

Does that mean that all molesters never watch porn? Of course not. But neither does it mean that all people who watch porn become molesters, any more than all people who play Quake become mass murders.

There are, of course, some people who can't handle certain stimuli and thus should be restricted from it. But that responsibility can't rest on the shoulders of the media (or, god forbid, the government) if our society is to remain free.

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Given the current political climate in the United States (I'm risking being an Ugly American and assumuing that's where we're talking about) I'm sure that if there was any definitive evidence of a causal link between porn and child molestation, that porn would be made illegeal at a federal level overnight.

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Do you really have that much faith in the government? I tend to be much more pessimistic.

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Do you really have that much faith in the government? I tend to be much more pessimistic.

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Lately, I've got an overabundance of faith that the government is working very hard to do away with as many personal liberties as possible, like free expression (which is the root of producing porn). Problem is they can't do it without a justification that seems reasonable. That's why the ridiculous new airport security and sweeping police powers are in the name of "preventing terrorism." They can't just ban porn outright (if for no other reason than that there's too much brib...er, contribution money in the industry) but if it was linked to child molestation, it'd give all the right-wingers exactly what they've been after for the past century or so...

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Lately, I've got an overabundance of faith that the government is working very hard to do away with as many personal liberties as possible, like free expression (which is the root of producing porn).

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And there I thought it was the fact that guys want something to jerk off to. Silly me.
There is some Erotica out there that might be fit to be called "free expression", but most porn out there isn't.

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And there I thought it was the fact that guys want something to jerk off to. Silly me.

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I hear that there is couples-oriented stuff which has something for both sexes, but I've not had the interest in going out to look for it.  Mostly porn is ridiculously scripted and so badly acted that anyone with a brain would find it a turn-off (or should, if their brains were in use at the time).

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There is some Erotica out there that might be fit to be called "free expression", but most porn out there isn't.

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Then again, there's an awful lot of crap on network television we'd finally be free of if we started disqualified video productions with no socially redeeming value from first ammendment coverage and then banned it. Just think, no more daytime talk shows, reality shows, or sitcoms!

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And there I thought it was the fact that guys want something to jerk off to. Silly me.

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Well, I meant "root of" in the context of "without freedom of expression, producing porn is impossible, by virtue of the fact that producing much of anything is impossible."

Not that porn is born out of a love of the First Amendment per se.

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I am Dyslexic of Borg.
Prepare to have your ass laminated.

You'll have to work for magazines and websites, but there are oppurtunities for geeks. I don't know much about films, despite that fact that I do know a guy who was in a bunch of them. (He can be in my personal porn movie anytime!) I used to work for a "adult novelties" store ... in the back room(s) we did photo shoots for magazines ...All kinds of magazines... These pictures were also for the porn site that the business also had. (I don't if they spammed at all, but I doubt it)

They employed 2 geeks to "fix" the pictures. I didn't do that because I'm far better at sales than I am at photoshop. (well, at least it used to be that way )

The upshot is, there are jobs for geeks out there. They just might not be where you think they are.

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