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nekomatic
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posted July 31, 2002 00:31     Click Here to See the Profile for nekomatic   Click Here to Email nekomatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
..."hourderve?"

Hourderve???

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posted July 31, 2002 01:19     Click Here to See the Profile for LifetimeTrekker   Click Here to Email LifetimeTrekker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, we don't carp about spelling, punctuation or grammar around here.
Well, not too much, anyway.
Okay, we do, but we're kinda tolerant.
But not too much.
Maybe the spell-checker was sick?

It was still funny!

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posted July 31, 2002 05:06     Click Here to See the Profile for greycat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Google has 112000 matches for hors d'oeuvre and 768 matches for hors d'ouevre, so I guess the former spelling is more likely to be the correct one. (French isn't my strong suit. No sane language would have such a high silent-to-pronounced letter ratio.)

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posted July 31, 2002 13:20     Click Here to See the Profile for uilleann   Click Here to Email uilleann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed it is; the o and e of oeuvre are supposed to be joined together thus: ś (although whether the French still do this is another matter ;). No idea what the HTML entity is, so goodness knows whether that character will work =]

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posted July 31, 2002 13:34     Click Here to See the Profile for Snaggy   Click Here to Email Snaggy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used the preferred spelling of the Holiday Inn Hotel Los Angeles.

So there.

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nekomatic
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posted August 01, 2002 00:37     Click Here to See the Profile for nekomatic   Click Here to Email nekomatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Did you know this from personal experience Snaggy, or did you just find out by googling for it? I'm intrigued by the possibilities of Google-search-as-spellcheck ('hourderve' scores a lowly 67 by the way) - perhaps a research project is in order? It wouldn't be able to fix your/you're or there/their mistakes, but neither can Word 97. And given 'ouevre' Google even suggests the right spelling, which UK Word 97 doesn't unless you set the language of the text to French (although it does then correctly insist on the oe, um, thingy - no I can't find an HTML entity for it either...)

In related news, the Japanese for 'hourderve' appears to be zensai.

The one thing to be said in favour of 'hourderve' is that it is an anagram of 'devour her', although I can't remember whether hors d'oeuvre are masculine or feminine. Where's Swiss Mercenary when you need him - he always puts me right on my French.

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posted August 01, 2002 01:25     Click Here to See the Profile for uilleann   Click Here to Email uilleann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
œ is a ligature; as soon as I decided to point that out to you, it brought a good guess of the entity name ("oelig") to mind, and indeed œ is œ. However, the cool thing is, it looks as though my browser (iCab) is converting extended ASCII for me, so I can just use opt-q for it, although that's a bad idea.

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posted August 01, 2002 05:00     Click Here to See the Profile for greycat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"devour her"... hmmm... not the kind of snack one expects to find at a cocktail party, but an intriguing notion nonetheless.

"hors d'oeuvre" doesn't appear, at first glance, to have any anagrams that are quite as much fun. It has "devours hero", but I'm sure I would derive a much greater enjoyment from her than from hero. Then there's "devour horse", which lacks appeal. "roused hover" sounds interesting, at least from a scientific point of view. "sure do hover" sounds like a more mature implementation, though. "hero drove us" could be interpreted in several ways, unfortunately none of them quite up to Zorroesque standards. "her sour dove" apparently doesn't taste like chicken after all. I'm sure the Greek typesetters will be glad to learn that "rho over used". I hope the "horde over us" passes by fairly quickly, because it's dark down here.

"do us over her", or "do her over us"... hmm, decisions. But apparently not everyone is amused by this game, because I just saw "eve rush door".

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posted August 02, 2002 01:31     Click Here to See the Profile for nekomatic   Click Here to Email nekomatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Look, it says 'canapes'. Can apes what?"

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