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Snaggy Moderator 
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posted June 19, 2000 09:06
   
In your humble opinion, who is the better engineer: Scotty from the original Star Trek series, or Geordi, from the Next Generation? (BTW, Montgomery Scott Rocks!) IP: Logged |
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greyrat Alpha Geek  Posts: 293 |
posted June 19, 2000 10:40
Ya can't beat the original -- and when did Geordi ever creep up a jeffries tube with a magnetic probe in hand to save the entire ship in less than the required "fifteen more minutes"! Wow! a "First Post"! And I wasn't even trying! IP: Logged |
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CyberGoddess Assimilated 
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posted June 19, 2000 10:43
Scotty, hands down... he was witty, charming, and had the ability to defy the laws of physics. Geordi, however, was a blind man... visor or not, he was still blind. And I dunno about you, but the idea of a blind man keeping a starship running isn't the most comforting in the world. -- IP: Logged |
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suprdave unregistered |
posted June 19, 2000 11:09
It's all about Scotty. I mean really..when was Geordi ever referred to as a miracle worker? That, and I'm part Scot. -dave IP: Logged |
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Computer Single Celled Newbie 
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posted June 19, 2000 11:47
Scotty all the way. Not only was he a miracle worker in engineering, he was also the guy you'd want along on shore leave. IP: Logged |
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Kostya unregistered |
posted June 19, 2000 12:12
Scotty is hands down the best engineer. Geordi, like so many of the 2nd geners, is just too "star-fleet"--i.e. obeying orders dutifully, never speaking their minds, etc. Scotty was brilliant AND opinionated. If Kirk was doing something crazy with the ship, he'd object. If ordered to do so anyways, he'd do it with a "well, if that's how you want to die ..." kind of attitude. In other words, Scotty is just like any true geek being pushed around by senior management :-) IP: Logged |
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Andriod unregistered |
posted June 19, 2000 12:22
Scotty, Geordi didn't even know how to inflate estimates until Scotty taught him. IP: Logged |
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tafkact Highlie 
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posted June 19, 2000 12:32
That was a rehtoric question, right? But, what about Torres on Lost in Space, err - I mean Voyager? Or even Miles in DS9? IP: Logged |
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dwhite unregistered |
posted June 19, 2000 12:49
Scotty - Anybody who can drink like that, and still remember how to use a transporter buffer to cheat death ROCKS! IP: Logged |
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GoldenH unregistered |
posted June 19, 2000 12:58
Scotty will always beat the Man With One Eye because Scotty understands how thinks work; The Other Guy just read lots and lots of starfleet tech manuals. That, and Scotty could drink this new guy under the table! Scotty could even drink Picard under the table - and his family's in drinking! And after drinking like a gallon of beer, Scotty can STILL save the enterprise from destruction by cursing and saying some witty line and run into some tube or something  Geordi just goes "hmm let the computer do that" Hasn't he ever learned, the only way to do something right is to do it yourself? Computer automation will just f'k something over... IP: Logged |
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Ris Geek Larva 
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posted June 19, 2000 13:58
Don't get me wrong I think Scotty is by far the better eng. all those Starfleet manuals and that technology ...Scotty invened it and wrote them. But there is something to be said for the guy that can think of different and new ways to use older technology, and besides the whole Leah Brahms hologram girlfriend thing is very geeky. IP: Logged |
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KlngnLuvr69 unregistered |
posted June 19, 2000 16:42
Belana Tores from Voyager is hot, I want her body. 
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Emmett Geek Larva
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posted June 19, 2000 18:45
Look, this isn't even a fair question. Geordi LaForge isn't fit to lick the THICK SWEATY GYM SOCKS of Scotty. That, and the whole 'Next Generation' of Star Trek shows aren't fit to provide the CATERING to the sets of the original. Give me the original NCC-1701, where I can beam down to planets, kiss beautiful women, and vaporize any stupid alien that looks at me the wrong way. If I were Captain of the 'new' Enterprise, I would have told the crew that we're enslaving homeworld of the next alien we discovered that looked like a human in face makeup. IP: Logged |
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ARJ SuperBlabberMouth!     
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posted June 19, 2000 18:46
quote: Oh-- does your body not work properly anymore? I didn't know you could trade bodies in these days. IP: Logged |
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ARJ SuperBlabberMouth!
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posted June 19, 2000 18:54
I'm biased toward TNG anyway, so I'll give my wimpy minority vote to Geordi. Yeah, Scotty was cool in a testosterone kinda way, but I liked how Geordi could always plug a computer into his brain and be able to see/do cool stuff with it. Plus I always identified with his lonely pathos -- I mean, the guy had an android for his best friend. How much geekier can you get? Of course, maybe Geordie hits a little too close to home for all you up there who voted for Scotty... You all want to be studs like those rough-housing, rugged, pioneering jocks of TOS. Well, I say you are forsaking your geeky heritage! Wake up! You will never be able to slug an alien out in a fist fight like Kirk! Quit living in a dream world! Disclaimer: due to the lack of vocal intonation conveyed in text, the ironic intent of this post may not be entirely clear. -AJ ------------------ -They Might Be Giants IP: Logged |
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Buffy Super Geek 
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posted June 19, 2000 19:11
ARJ:"Oh-- does your body not work properly anymore?" LOL!!!! in other comments... Scottie was sooo sweet, especially during his appearence in Next Generation. (I actually teared up when he walked onto the holographic reproduction of his old ship.) It's too bad he never "got the girl" in the old shows, although I know his first and only love was the Enterprise. IP: Logged |
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kimagure Highlie
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posted June 19, 2000 20:19
Scotty, of Course! What do you expect from a guy born in the same country as William (Braveheart) Wallace and Sean Connery? Hell, he even beat up a Klingon when said antagonist called the Enterprise "garbage". PS ARJ that was really brave of you to speak your mind defending Geordi! How "Scottyish" of you! IP: Logged |
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SpiritWolf unregistered |
posted June 19, 2000 20:37
Geordi was okay ... for the first few seasons. Then he developed a serious attitude problem, he was also intolerant to a big fault. Not only that but after Barclay, B'elanna and Miles, Geordi was made to look quite ... incompetent. He even needed to utilize the holodeck to help him solve problems. So, the best engineer? Miles, by a -long- shot, the best personality? Scotty, he was grand (but Miles is a close runner, both Scottish and Irish people are usually charismatic This is the first time I've posted here but when it comes to Trek, I simply cannot resist! ;> IP: Logged |
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Petethelate Uber Geek 
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posted June 19, 2000 22:44
Well, since I like taking minority viewpoints, my candidate for best engineer is someone who (IIRC) doesn't even have a formal character name; to wit: "The Visitor" or some such. (It's been too many years and I never got the time to watch reruns of TNG) I'm referring to the alien who recognized Wesley Crusher's talent for engineering. I stopped watching TNG after about the 4th year--working a full time job and surviving a master's program forces one to set some priorities, and getting sleep rated ahead of TNG, but back then, Geordi was pretty good as an engineer. Still, it's like comparing, say, Ada Lovelace and Grace Hopper--the eras are too far apart in time. OTOH, as actors, I'll take the Patrick Stewart over William Shatner any day. If you ain't got hair, flaunt it! Petethelate IP: Logged |
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noworryz unregistered |
posted June 19, 2000 23:40
All Geordi ever did was "adjust the phase" of something or other. Sometimes he would ponder the problem for half the show before deciding to do the adjustment. I always wanted to smack him and say "have you thought about maybe adjusting the phase?" Scotty, on the other hand, could fix anything using some tin foil and a piece of bubble gum. I always found that a lot more impressive.
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CyberGoddess Assimilated
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posted June 20, 2000 09:35
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Petethelate Uber Geek
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posted June 20, 2000 10:58
Yeah, I always thought it a terrible disappointment when the TNG people passed up on several opportunities to get rid of Wesley--preferably in some utterly gruesome way. Hell, they even had the opportunity in yet another Do We Violate the Prime Directive (or do we let WC get executed?) If there were ever a crying occasion to pay attention to the PD, that was it. Never could quite understand the casting--if they wanted to get small boys interested in the show, they had Mariana Sirtis. To make this equal opportunity bashing, in Generations we finally got to see the last of James T. (Your ship is no longer under your control) Kirk. Petethelate IP: Logged |
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CyberGoddess Assimilated
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posted June 20, 2000 11:15
Yeah, I never understood why they didn't just let the pipsqueak croak... HOW many alien laws did he break? See, when they character first showed up, I was a teenage girl and he was cute... then he opened his mouth.. that was it. I hated him. And I have to agree that I prefer Captain Picard much better than Kirk. Captain Picard had a brain.. he wasn't always trying to sleep with the beautiful female aliens and he was always compassionate and actually cared about his crew. Killing Kirk was the greatest service done to Starfleet and the Federation. Now, on the other hand, while I prefered TNG over TOS, my Starfleet chapter uses the Movie Era uniforms and TOS uniforms. This means that I wear the little blue dress as a uniform... not an altogether bad thing, especially when paired with my labcoat and black go-go boots. TOS was so much more fashionable.... ------------------ "One world, one web, one program." - Microsoft Promotional Ad IP: Logged |
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chromatic Super Geek
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posted June 20, 2000 12:26
quote: You have no idea what I do all day, do you? -- chromatic IP: Logged |
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supaboy SuperBlabberMouth!
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posted June 20, 2000 12:32
quote: Betcha I could! -supaboy, former karate instructor who even managed to fashionably tear one or two of his uniforms while sparring. And if that didn't work, he also used to be a pretty good runner! P.S.- Scotty, definitely. P.P.S.- 200th post! Woo-hoo! IP: Logged |
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CyberGoddess Assimilated
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posted June 20, 2000 12:35
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Ben Geek
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posted June 20, 2000 15:14
Wake up! You will never be able to slug an alien out in a fist fight like Kirk! Quit living in a dream world! Laugh out Friggin' Loud! Methinks that deep down, we all want to be Kirk. IP: Logged |
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Saintonge SuperBlabberMouth!
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posted June 20, 2000 20:43
quote: Alas, he's likely to come back someday. But what really pissed me off was that the brought back Spock, who died beautifully. IP: Logged |
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kimagure Highlie
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posted June 20, 2000 23:41
Regarding the Captains, I also agree with everyone else here: Picard is the best, though I think that Benjamin Sisko was (is?) just as good. I hated whatever happened to him at the end of Deep Space Nine (death? evolution? transcendention (sic) to another plane?) when he fell down the pit while slugging it out with Gul Ducat. That really sucked. They should have let him live. IP: Logged |
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tafkact Highlie
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posted June 20, 2000 23:52
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The Klingons called it a garbage scow, actually. Much worse than garbage itself, IMO. hehe IP: Logged |
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Petethelate Uber Geek
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posted June 21, 2000 00:29
Pretty sure k's got it right; If the memory hasn't deserted me, it went something like this: Klingon: The Enterprise is a garbage scow. So, I guess you are both right, but Scotty got set off by the contents, not the scow. Petethelate (Wonder how many times I've seen the Tribbles episode?) IP: Logged |
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gr3y unregistered |
posted June 21, 2000 11:17
Say the enterprise hits a particularily bumpy space-time vortex. The ship rocks inexplicably, sending crewmembers hurtling over railings amid showers of sparks. Down in engineering a drink gets spilled on the dilithium crystals. Scotty's drink would be a rare double-malt. He would then fly his butt down to some planet and kill some big space monster, possibly with a paperclip, gum, and tinfoil, take its crystals and get back to the ship and hand polish those puppies to get the ship moving again. Geordi's spilt drink would be some sort of futuristic decaf espresso. (futuristic because it was served in a flower vase) To get the ship moving he would need to get together with his friends to figure out what to do. Together they could combine 1)a science project 2)an android arm component and 3) a blind engineer's visor. The resulting light fixture would enable Geordi to place an order with the McMaster catalog for a set of replacement crystals. The enterprise would be underway within the week. I'll pick Scotty for the better engineer. IP: Logged |
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Saintonge SuperBlabberMouth!
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posted June 21, 2000 13:53
quote: What the heck, I'm in a nitpicking mood. Setup: before going on leave, Kirk tells the Enterprise crew to avoid trouble with the Klingons. In bar: Klingon makes insulting remark about Kirk and/or the crew of the Enterprise . Chekov, I think, is ready to get in an argument or a fight. Scotty puts his hand on his arm and reminds him the Captain said to stay out of trouble. Then the Klingon makes a remark about theEnterprise , to wit: that it should be hauling garbage in that sector. Scott, deceptively calm, asks him something like if stands by that remark, or I think, wouldn't he care to take that back? The Klingon says yes. The Enterprise should not be hauling garbage, {Mr. Scott starts to relax}, it should be hauled away AS garbage. Scotty stiffens, downs his scotch in one gulp, stands, and swings. Later: Mr. Scott explains his actions to Kirk. The Captain is almost ready to forgive Scotty when he thinks he slugged the Klingon over the insult to Kirk, but visibly disappointed that Scotty let that slide, but started a fight over the insult to the ship. IP: Logged |
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SpiritWolf unregistered |
posted June 21, 2000 17:39
Ooh, got a bit to reply to here on my second post to this 'ere board ... and such. ;> Right then, "You're living in a dream world!", well yes. Of course we are, damnit! ... and where exactly do you think all your favourite book / script / play writers are taking residence, hmm? Next up, Mr Polar-neck, Wesley Crush, the guy you love to hate. Except me that is, I don't know if I'm one of the few exceptions out there but I thought Wes was awesome myself. Who else can turn a tractor beam into a repulsor beam whilst drunk? ... all in a matter of a few minutes too! ;> Sisko ... ugh, he was worse than Kirk in my opinion, the insane Baritone vigilante Captain that shou-ted ev-er-y sy-lla-ble of ev-er-y sen-tence in the most ann-oy-ing mann-er! Gah, talk about cardboard actors. Well, that's my opinion anyways. IP: Logged |
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ARJ SuperBlabberMouth!
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posted June 21, 2000 19:41
Dear SpiritWolf: You remarked: Right then, "You're living in a dream world!", well yes. Of course we are, damnit! ... and where exactly do you think all your favourite book / script / play writers are taking residence, hmm? Please take note of my disclaimer: Disclaimer: due to the lack of vocal intonation conveyed in text, the ironic intent of this post may not be entirely clear.  IP: Logged |
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MobiusWench unregistered |
posted June 22, 2000 10:01
I've been a fan of Geordi ever since he was on Reading Rainbow. Young original Scotty was cool, but old overweight Scotty giving advice to young upstart engineers was annoying. IP: Logged |
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QWERTY Newbie Larva
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posted June 25, 2000 17:35
Geordie broke-in "his" enterprise as specified in the starfleet manual; not bringing it past warp 4 for the first 500 light-years and not past warp 6 for the first 1000 light-years. Scottie would already have the throttle 3/4 open before Kirk asked for more. PS IP: Logged |
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Tau Zero BlabberMouth, the Next Generation.
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posted June 26, 2000 20:05
quote: Indeed. Between the first season rehashes of all the TOS episodes (are the writers THAT dumb?) and the ensuing Wesley-Crusher-saves-the-ship-again episodes (yes, the writers are THAT dumb - or they think we are) I gave the series a miss until season three or four. (And not too long thereafter B5 came along and trumped the cream of the Roddenberry crop, DS9, for plotline. I said sayonara.) I thought it would have been fitting, and made a lot of people really happy, for some down-planet episode to feature an armed squad finding the Wesley character in some bind and being told, "Fire at Will (Wheaton)". Preferably a squad commanded by his mother, after he'd done something really obnoxious to everybody, including some really important aliens. After all, isn't that what he was doing (or the writers were doing to us through Wesley)? Working it in as a sad but necessary thing to do to fulfill the Prime Directive would have made it a terrific piece of theater. IP: Logged |
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ARJ SuperBlabberMouth!
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posted June 26, 2000 22:00
Aw, quit being so mean to poor Wesley. Remember how utterly annoying Luke Skywalker was in Episode IV?? (I kept waiting for Obi Wan to lose it and just smack him upside the head.) Of course, we got the satisfaction of seing young Skywalker turn into an awesome badass jedi knight in Return of the Jedi, while Wesley simply disappeared into the ether with the Traveler and never got to redeem himself. IP: Logged |
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Tau Zero BlabberMouth, the Next Generation.
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posted June 27, 2000 09:39
quote: That's the difference between being a central and a supporting character... as well as proof of what I was saying about those #$*&!! soi-disant writers. Suffice it to say that writers who couldn't give the character any better things to do would, and did, make a rather unsatisfying exit for him too. IP: Logged |
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Dunno if WC would have been for the small girl contingent, though he was too much of a dweeb, I'd have thought.