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NeenerNeener
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posted January 22, 2002 12:13     Click Here to See the Profile for NeenerNeener     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yesterday I was standing in line at the post office, and someone walked in with their black and white Great Dane to check their mailbox. The Great Dane pranced to the doorway and looked at us in the line-up. I gave him a big, warm, smile and said "hi there!". The owner brisked him away outside. I turned back to waiting with the other people, with my normal, polite, public mask I wear. I realized, there's no way I would ever be that nice to the people ahead or behind me in line. Why is that?

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macadddikt18
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posted January 22, 2002 14:34     Click Here to See the Profile for macadddikt18   Click Here to Email macadddikt18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for some reason people are nice to animals. Why i have no idea, they think they are cute or something. That and animals are not rude and arogant like people, so we tend to love them easier. Just my thoughts
Nayt

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JainDough
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posted January 22, 2002 15:10     Click Here to See the Profile for JainDough   Click Here to Email JainDough     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
first off, huzzah for being such a good friend of our animal brethren

oh no,everyone stand back she's going into crazy hippie mode!

People are nicer to animals b/c they deserve better treatment than other humans do. you'll never find a dog with an alterior motive, a cat out to ruin your career, a white parakeet who refuses to sit in the same tree just because their are black parakeets. Animals live simple and wonderful lives that are a whole lot more filling than most humans' despite how much materal goods we obtain in a futile attempt to at least 'seem' like we've got fufilling lives.

More people should be nice to animals, instead of treating them like crap. because the animals have yet to create smog emmitting cars, pollute the streams or destroy the ozone, this makes them lesser creatures? most people wouldnt think of sending their two year old out to play in traffic, but they seem to have no qualms about letting their dogs or cats run loose. Some sickos even take their anger out on animals, mistreating and abusing them. these are the same people who might one day mistreat or abuse a human, but then people dont get as up in arms over animal abuse.

this could go on forever and i went off topic about three paragrapghs ago so how's about i just let it go? *everyone nods emphatically* alrighty then, i'm done.

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Akira
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posted January 22, 2002 16:03     Click Here to See the Profile for Akira   Click Here to Email Akira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Man had always assumed he was more intelligent than dolphins because he'd achieved so much -- the wheel, New York, wars and so on -- while all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water and have a good time. Curiously enough, the dolphins had always considered themselves more intelligent than Man, for precisely the same reasons."
-- Douglas Adams

I do think there's a lot of social conditioning at work here. We're taught to be nice to animals because they're "dumb" creatures, whereas we're taught to constantly be on guard against other people because they're frequently out to get us, often through no fault of our own.

Seems to me the solution is to change the social conditioning, but for the life of me I can't figure out how.

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FatGnome
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posted January 23, 2002 07:52     Click Here to See the Profile for FatGnome   Click Here to Email FatGnome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some people are nicer to animals for the same reason that they are nicer to babies. You know it is just because they are cute and pretty much helpless compared to humans. Although big dogs are capable of hurting humans the humans would have to be dumb enough to get in their way. So since we feel superior and that they are dependent we are nicer to them.

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LifetimeTrekker
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posted January 23, 2002 22:54     Click Here to See the Profile for LifetimeTrekker   Click Here to Email LifetimeTrekker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find a double-standard of treatment demonstrated in the courts from several recent cases involving infanticide and animal abuse.

Two teenagers make a kid. The girl gives birth at the prom, strangles the newborn then goes out to finish the night. Both kids get probation.

Road rage incident. Man pulls a woman's dog from her car and throws the dog into traffic where the dog is killed. He gets three years in the slammer.

Am I the only one seeing something is screwy here?

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NeenerNeener
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posted January 24, 2002 00:01     Click Here to See the Profile for NeenerNeener     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm, that makes sense. When you put those two cases together side by side, it does seem topsy tervy.

Well, I've been experimenting with the being nicer to people in general. It kinda works. I'm just starting with warm, friendly smile. I think if I said "hi there!" people would say "do I know you?" "what do you want?" So, I'm starting with pretending they're dogs and cats and smiling.

At the same time, if someone gets hit on the side of the road, it's like, "EMERGENCY!" everyone is on their cell phones,and if someone's bleeding! whoa! But if you hit a dog or a cat and it bleeds to death at the side of the road -- no one cares, no one stops, nothing. It's just "ooooh, roadkill". I always thought that was mean. If it's not too dangerous I'll pull over and be there for the animal, so it's not dying alone, so it knows someone is watching over it.

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Steen
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posted January 24, 2002 13:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Steen   Click Here to Email Steen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NeenerNeener wrote:
Well, I've been experimenting with the being nicer to people in general. It kinda works. I'm just starting with warm, friendly smile. I think if I said "hi there!" people would say "do I know you?" "what do you want?" So, I'm starting with pretending they're dogs and cats and smiling.

Have you patted anyone on the head and said "Good boy! Wanna go to the park for walkies?" yet?

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JainDough
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posted January 24, 2002 17:07     Click Here to See the Profile for JainDough   Click Here to Email JainDough     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Steen:
Have you patted anyone on the head and said "Good boy! Wanna go to the park for walkies?" yet?

If anyone ever came up to me and said "Wanna go to the park for walkies?" i prolly would go for a walk with them, they've got to be pretty cool to say that, or pretty insane. eithier way i'll be entertained

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supaboy
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posted January 25, 2002 08:05     Click Here to See the Profile for supaboy   Click Here to Email supaboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
Have you patted anyone on the head and said "Good boy! Wanna go to the park for walkies?" yet?

Isn't this Zorro the Fox's thing, to think of people like pets?

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NeenerNeener
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posted January 25, 2002 10:44     Click Here to See the Profile for NeenerNeener     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, you know that wouldn't be a bad invitation. Or, could you imagine, at work, if someone working under you does something wrong, you grab their face and say "NO!" really loud! Or, at home with your fidgety spouse, you pull their legs out from under them to keep them down on the floor till you say they can get up!

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macadddikt18
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posted January 28, 2002 13:11     Click Here to See the Profile for macadddikt18   Click Here to Email macadddikt18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, my mom, she grabbs me and yells NO all the time. My dad though, he is meaner to the cat than to me. I guess it all comes back around.
Nayt

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Tau Zero
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posted January 28, 2002 13:21     Click Here to See the Profile for Tau Zero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we're nicer to animals than people because we can be.

People have all these walls they put up when others are nice to them, because only too often the niceness is a ploy to try to get something, from a phone number to your wallet.  But nobody's going to ask a dog to go out for a drinkie-poo (with implications of hanky panky), and returning the affection that a cat shows your ankle is hardly the stuff that raises suspicion.  We can be just about as nice as we like to other people's animals, and nobody takes it the wrong way.

That's one thing I love about human-animal relationships:  honesty.

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trowelblister
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posted February 25, 2002 08:41     Click Here to See the Profile for trowelblister   Click Here to Email trowelblister     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
,,,,well, I don't eat people either,,,

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Tau Zero
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posted February 25, 2002 11:09     Click Here to See the Profile for Tau Zero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do, but they have to ask me very nicely.

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