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GrumpySteen

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Icon 1 posted July 22, 2010 18:17      Profile for GrumpySteen     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
TheMoMan wrote:
Believe me Indian rights trump INS.

Which has nothing to do with the UK. INS is a US organization. Stop trying to claim that exceptions to UK laws are justified based on how US and Canada handle their relations.

The Famous Druid wrote:
Keeping foreign governments informed of this kind of thing is part of the reason the UK maintains a vast network of embassies.

Yeah? Where's the embassy for the Iroquois nation?

Oops. Looks like there isn't one.

In fact, there's a hell of a lot less than 195 embassies there, so it seems there are a lot of countries that aren't on the mailing list.

How do you suppose all those left-out countries find out about changes in the UK's passport requirements, if not by checking publically available information on their own (which you seem to think is just plain dumb)?

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Icon 1 posted July 22, 2010 18:20      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
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Originally posted by TheMoMan:
some times I wish I could lay claim to being native.

Sadly, Mrs Druids 6% Mohegan ancestry (and the druidlings 3%) doesn't entitle them to a share in this

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Icon 1 posted July 22, 2010 18:57      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by GrumpySteen:
Yeah? Where's the embassy for the Iroquois nation?

Oops. Looks like there isn't one.

In fact, there's a hell of a lot less than 195 embassies there, so it seems there are a lot of countries that aren't on the mailing list.

How do you suppose all those left-out countries find out about changes in the UK's passport requirements, if not by checking publically available information on their own (which you seem to think is just plain dumb)?

You really don't give the diplomatic service much credit for intelligence.

All of this stuff was arranged long before "look it up on our web site" became possible.

When there's no full-time embassy, that job will have been delegated to a nearby one, eg there's no Australian Embassy in Peru, but the aussie embassy in Chile handles that relationship.

I expect you'll find the UK consulate in New York or Montreal handle the relationship with the Iroquois.

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GrumpySteen

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So you're suggesting that consulates who receive information about the UK's passport requirements will then proactively contact nearby countries who don't have UK embassies and make sure that they're given the information?

And they know which nearby countries to contact because, I suppose, they keep a list of every embassy in every nearby country just so they can make sure they pass along passport information?

And it seems more plausible to you that countries would generously and selflessly put forth all this effort on behalf of nearby countries rather than something simpler like, for instance, believing that a country's passport agency would make a phone call to another country's embassy to ask what their passport requirements are?

Really?

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quote:
Originally posted by GrumpySteen:
So you're suggesting that consulates who receive information about the UK's passport requirements will then proactively contact nearby countries who don't have UK embassies and make sure that they're given the information?

I'm suggesting that a UK embassy that's been given responsibility for dealing with several nations would do so, yes. Just as the Australian Embassy in Chile handles the relationship with several other South American nations.

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The Australian Embassy in Chile has consular responsibility for Chile, Peru, Bolivia and Ecuador.

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And they know which nearby countries to contact because, I suppose, they keep a list of every embassy in every nearby country just so they can make sure they pass along passport information?
Does it really surprise you that the Australian embassy in Chile knows there's no Australian embassy in Peru?
Do you really think keeping track of details like that is beyond the wit of the diplomatic service?

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And it seems more plausible to you that countries would generously and selflessly put forth all this effort on behalf of nearby countries
You do know that the UK embassy in Washington works for the UK government, right?
And you do know that government to government communications is a major part of what embassies are for, right?

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rather than something simpler like, for instance, believing that a country's passport agency would make a phone call to another country's embassy to ask what their passport requirements are?

Simpler?

Option a: When a country changes their passport requirement, they issue a memo, which goes out to their network of embassies, who then pass it on to the governments that embassy deals with.

Option b: Every country in the world maintains a call centre, whose job it is to call every other country in the world at regular intervals asking "Have your passport requirements changed since our last call?"

Which sounds simpler to you?

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Well, well, well.

So much fussin' and fightin'. I am sad for that!

So everybody smile and kiss a puppy for a moment, OK?

[Smile] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile]

There isn't that better?

Mrs. Geek 2Me and Me have a Ear-A-Coy Maiden for a friend and she told me the real reason the Britishers won't let them play.

Yes! Yes! Yes! What does her tribal council say? Are U Red-ee?

They say the Britishers are sissies! And they are afraid the natives will put their sticks in a place the laddies hold special for the boarding school teachers!

Ha! Ha! Ha! She is funny!

Hey Tea-Chur leave those boys a-loan!

No offence. Just funny. Funny. Funny.

I do think she has a point. Not just on her La-Cross stick, too.

Ha. Ha. Ha!

If the Britishers were real men they would let the Ear-A-Coy play.

They would not hide behind a piece of paper like fraidy-cats!

What do think?

Have a great day! Kiss a puppy for peace!

Mr. Geek 2U!

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
Option b: Every country in the world maintains a call centre, whose job it is to call every other country in the world at regular intervals asking "Have your passport requirements changed since our last call?"

You know, I don't actually care much about lacrosse, or who can or can't play it where, or why.

But that made me laugh.

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I know...it can all be solved with XML! [Wink]

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