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Ughhh!! So, I heard this song today, and it was a cover from one of my favorite bands (Snow Patrol) anyway this person jacked it all up! I just get so frustrated by artists covering songs. I can't think of a single song where a cover was better than the original. Can you?

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Janis Joplin's cover of "Me and Bobby McGee". Roger Miller had a hit with it in 1969. But Janis's version is the classic.

Beatles cover of "Twist and Shout".

ELOs cover of "Roll Over Beethoven".

Jimi Hendrix cover of Boby Dylan's "All Along the Watchtower".

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I can't decide who did Man Who Sold the World better, David Bowie or Kurt Cobain.

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Cash's Hurt. Sorry if that hurts Trent.

(Xan... Bowie does a better version [Smile] but it was brilliant of Kurt to cover it.)

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Ughhh, Snags!
Trent rocked that song, but I do agree with you on Bowie:)

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I love many cover songs, but I also love the original version too. I will admit though there have been many songs where I've heard the cover version before the original.

If someone does a cover I prefer it to be different and unique from the original. If you're going to do a straight cover of the song save it for the karaoke bar.

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I have to say U2's cover of All Along the Watchtower with BB King was pretty darn good. But, I'd have to say it was BB King who made that cover work.

Cash's Hurt was also very, very good, but think I prefer the original.

The best covers are those that are true to the cover artist's voice, not just remakes or experimental do overs. Of course, that's also not 100% true. Rather, I find it a good rule of thumb.

Personally, I find almost all Pink Floyd covers offensive to the point of heresy. But, Fred Durst's cover of Wish You Were Here was probably the best cover of that song I've heard.

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A good cover version is a marvelous thing. Cash's version of 'Hurt' was brilliant and much , much better than the original.

Other brilliant cover versions include: Yes - 'America', William Shatner - 'Common People', The White Stripes - 'Jolene', Kathryn Williams - 'All Apologies', The Ukranians - Spivaye Solovey(What Difference does it make?).....

I could go on and on... I love cover versions. [Big Grin]

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Jeff Buckley does an awesome Hallelujah. So does Rufus Wainwright for that matter. But perhaps this is unfair because while Leonard Cohen writes great songs his voice is meh.

ETA: if it's the same artist but he's doing his own song different, does that count as a cover? 'Cuz the recorded version I have of Dylan's Blowing in the Wind is NOT the version he played at Red Rocks last year (or was that 2007?). And he's doing Masters of War differently now too - he's older now and while he's still mad as hell when he sings it it's got a different edge.

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quote:
Originally posted by Grummash:
I could go on and on... I love cover versions. [Big Grin]

Well, iirc, that's just one of those things white people like. ;P
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/

However, it's not actually on that site - I'm quite certain it's in the book, though! (Incidentally, I picked it up at the Strand for a friend who didn't come to an after-Christmas party...so I guess it's mine now. [Big Grin] )

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There just aren't enough covers of Stairway to Heaven.

I particularly like the accordian, reggae and swing versions.

But by far the best cover version so far is by The Castanet Club

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Leona Lewis isn't that bad, is she?
Duran Duran's cover of Perfect Day by Lou Reed, as I explained in another post, is just marvelous. Even being a fan, I know they've made some missteps regarding to covers, some are cheesy (White Lines) but catchy, some are just bizarrely awful (911 Is A Joke).

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What about the Ukelele Orchestra of Great Britain? Their covers are musically brilliant. They pay tribute to the originals while gently and affectionately sending them up. If you haven't heard them before, check out their version of Nirvana's "Smells like teen spirit" or or Kate Bush's "Wuthering Heights".

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geekygoddess wrote:
I can't think of a single song where a cover was better than the original. Can you?

There are definitely some that far surpass the original. Aretha Franklin's remake of "Respect" (Otis Redding did the original) comes to mind. You can find both on YouTube and compare for yourself.

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quote:
Originally posted by Callipygous:
What about the Ukelele Orchestra of Great Britain? Their covers are musically brilliant. They pay tribute to the originals while gently and affectionately sending them up. If you haven't heard them before, check out their version of Nirvana's "Smells like teen spirit" or or Kate Bush's "Wuthering Heights".

Callipygous: UOGB is pretty cool - I learnt the proper lyrics from their Nirvana cover. [Wink]

Other uke covers I'm partial to:

Ukulele weeps by Jake Shimabukuro ("While My Guitar Gently Weeps")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k


Just Radiohead Ukulele (Radiohead - "Just")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd3ULMHlkEM


Heart Shaped Box - Nirvana (Ukulele cover)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm149EycJ7k

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
There just aren't enough covers of Stairway to Heaven.

I particularly like the accordian, reggae and swing versions.

But by far the best cover version so far is by The Castanet Club

Ah, dude -- Rolf Harris totally 0wn3d that song with his version, complete with wobbly board.

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Covers that are superior to the originals? I'd like to suggest:

1)Lick the Tins cover of Elvis' I Can't Help Falling In Love With You which is best found on the soundtrack of the movie, "Some Kind of Wonderful". There's a YouTube of the song here; the video has nothing to do with the song or the movie.

2) Somewhere Over the Rainbow by IZ. Memorial Video here, ukelele and all. Very Polynesian.

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The thing I hate about a lot of covers is that too often they are note-for-note copies of the original. To me, it kills the idea of making a song new or original. Direct copies of songs you like are great if you are a bar band, or singing karaoke. Otherwise the artist needs to make it theirs. Unusual arrangements, vocals that surpass the original singers, or just taking a song and mangling it beyone belief.

DK's I Fought the Law is one that I think passed the muster.
And 311's version of Love Song is one I think failed.

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A lot of people don't realize that the 'originals' of these two songs are actually covers of earlier hits from the 1930's.

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Originally posted by Callipygous:
Kate Bush's "Wuthering Heights".

Kate's version was a cover of this 1930's classic movie theme.

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I heard a cover of "In the Air of the Night" by a metal band called Nonpoint. Most of us remember the original with Phil Collins. The cover was really well done.

IMO, that's the trick. You have to have a great song to start with and then do a cover track. A truly great song can be covered by anyone, and still sound kick ass. I also heard a cover of "Creeping Death" by Bullet for My Valentine, original by Metallica. Both of them are great songs in their own right, and to have another band do it justice is fantastic.

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I suppose I may be inviting ridicule here, as but that creaky old roué Rod Stewart was also a sensitive and compelling interpreter of other people's songs. He even had a go at a couple of Dylan songs which takes some chutzpah, and made a fair fist of them. Actually there is no reason why a singer should also be a song writer anyway.

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quote:
Originally posted by Callipygous:
I suppose I may be inviting ridicule here, as but that creaky old roué Rod Stewart was also a sensitive and compelling interpreter of other people's songs. He even had a go at a couple of Dylan songs which takes some chutzpah, and made a fair fist of them. Actually there is no reason why a singer should also be a song writer anyway.

Shamefully, I've always liked his voice, if not his leopard-skin wardrobe. I heard somewhere that Tom Waits earned more royalties from Rod Stewart covering his songs than he ever made singing them himself.

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Maybe it's because I live in Scotland, but there is no shame in liking Rod Stewarts voice.

If it was the wardrobe however, that would be a different matter.

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quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
Jeff Buckley does an awesome Hallelujah. So does Rufus Wainwright for that matter. But perhaps this is unfair because while Leonard Cohen writes great songs his voice is meh.

I have been reliably informed by a friend still living in the UK that over the Christmas period, Jeff Buckley's posthumously re-released version of 'Hallelujah' made it to number two in the pop charts [thumbsup]

Unfortunately, Jeff was kept from the top spot by a reality show winner's cover version of the same song. While this in itself makes me wince, it wouldn't be so bad if her version wasn't such groan-inducingly cookie cutter RnB, complete with an overabundance of pointless vocal showboating [thumbsdown]

*sigh*... this is why I stopped taping the chart show off the radio when I was twelve [Razz]

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quote:
Originally posted by skylar:

*sigh*... this is why I stopped taping the chart show off the radio when I was twelve [Razz]

I used to do that... I even pirated "Do They Know It's Christmas" off the radio... which I'll probably go to Hell for... [Smile]

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