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Swiss Mercenary

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Yep, that is me, never read one of the books, never saw any of the films, so do I really care about the last book, nope!

To think some people compare it to 'Lord of the Rings', sheesh [devil wand] [Beard of Peter Gabriel!]

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Hey Swiss haven't seen you around for awhile.

I have the excuse of that it was the first real novel I actually read so I have to finish the series.

Well it is better then Lord of the Rings. The writing style might be crap but the plot line and development of the characters is excelent in the hp books. I myself liked the first Lord of the Rings book and was half way through the second when I had to stop reading it for a month - when I finally had time to finish the book it didn't appeal to me at all and I just gave up on the book and let it die.

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Stevenback7, are you the sort of person who cries "fire" in a crowded theater? Just asking...

I've read LOTR and all the HP books to date. Each has its strengths, I love them both, but for some reason I have this odd feeling that twenty years from now I'll still be re-reading LOTR while HP is collecting dust on my shelf (or getting abused by my kids, assuming that ever happens).

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Icon 1 posted July 18, 2007 08:21      Profile for NoRealReason   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
S7,
I had the same issue with LOTR, found them *very* hard to get through the first time. I have a thing where if I can't imagine the pronunciation of the character/place/thing easily in my head, I stumble over it every time, and can't keep going. As an aside, I have tried clockwork orange a half dozen times, and can't get past the second chapter. Stupid glossary.
Anyhoo, I think one of the reasons I couldn't get through LOTR is my age, or maturity level. I am not saying that you are not enough of either, but revisiting them in 5 years may produce an entirely different opinion. It did for me, and I have read them a dozen times since then.
In any case, I also thoroughly enjoy HP, and quite look forward to the last book, but I ain't waiting in any stinkin line.

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I could give a rat's ass about Harry Potter. I tend to gravitate AWAY from things that become pop culture icons. Call me a rebel.

I read LOTR in high school. Granted, it wasn't easy, but I finally did make it through them. The movies were beautifully done, though so much was missing. I was impressed with them.

I did see one HP movie - the first. It was cute. But for someone who's as deep a fantasy freak as I am, it left a lot to be desired. It's target audience is kids. Maybe that's why I'm not a fan.

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For me, the whole magic and wizards thing doesn't interest me. Never has... it's just not scientific.

Now if Harry Potter received super powers from a gamma ray machine accident, or was bitten by a radioactive spider, that would be a whole different story! [Big Grin] [Geek]

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I've been watching the movies, but I've never read any of the books. I'll probably rent HP:OotP when it comes out on DVD, but I'm not rushing to the theater to see it.

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Harry Potter is fun, but it certainly (in my opinion) does not even belong in the same classification as LOTR.

I'm greatly anticipating HP7, but just because I want some closure (and from what I've heard, there might be very little of that.)

I take issues with both series; things that should have been more thought out. Here they are:

For Harry Potter:
- Harry is pansy. He's fighting Voldemort, and yet he sucks at magic. He could at least try, for Gods' sakes.
- What is magic? Where does it come from? I want to know.
- Who decides what verbal incantations mean what? Is it like setting your $PATH variable? Do chinese magicians use pseudo-latin as well?

For Lord of the Rings:
- Why didn't they just have the eagle fly them to Mount Doom to destroy the ring?


These things have bothered me for a while. My friends all say that I'm over-analyzing, but hey, that's what I do with books. One of the reasons Roger Zelazny is my favourite author is because when there's magic involved, it's always explained somehow- either it's actually very advanced technology, or there's a source of energy that can be manipulated to do stuff.

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First of all Zelazny was insane. A very good author but still nuts.

Second HP is mediocre fantasy and moreso than ever since the 6th, but i still ordered the latest boook b/c I like it. Even the truly great fantasy series like LOTR or the Legend of Drizzt are not worth the commotion you see.

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I'm currently reading book seven from that dodgy internet leak. Of course, I'll also be buying the book the day it comes out. And yes, of course I prefer LotR.

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quote:
Originally posted by maximile:
I'm currently reading book seven from that dodgy internet leak.

Is that the one where Harry, Hermione, and Dumbledore have a threesome?
I dunno how to break this to you Max, but there are doubts about its authenticity.

btw - An oft-repeated claim is that J.K. Rowling insisted on using all british actors in the movies.
If any of these 'journalists' had taken even a moment to check their facts, (or had bothered to watch the films) they'd know it's not true

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quote:
Originally posted by nerdwithnofriends:
For Lord of the Rings:
- Why didn't they just have the eagle fly them to Mount Doom to destroy the ring?

Because it would have been so much more evident that Sauron would have reacted immediately? Because the Nazguls would still have been around to stop them? Because the eagle might not have been able to resist the ring and could have ditched the ringbearer to keep it? Or maybe, because the story wouldn't have been as good? [Big Grin]

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I tried reading one once, but, to quote Dorothy Parker: "I couldn't put it down -- I had to throw it across the room."

Yes, fair play to the lady for capturing the imaginations of the young and all that, but give me lust / death / mass murder / shape-shifting alien-sex-mutants any day.

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Xanthine ____ No i'm the person who plots how to annoy to hell out of people in theatres but never feels like following through.


NoRealReason ____ yeah now when I read the first Lord of the rings book I think i was in grade 7 or 8 - now I'm in grade 12 but still not going to make an effort to pick the book up again. I think its just not my kind of writing style and development.

TSG _____ Well i was one of the people who didn't start reading Harry Potter because it was what everyone else was doing. I think I read the first book right before the whole frenzy got started. The books have become darker and such but it again it is no where near certain authors.

But I will buy the last book on the first day it comes out - I will enjoy reading it but i will also enjoy finally closing the book. The series will reside on my book shelf and when I have kids (whenever that is) it will be something I can share with them that I enjoyed as a child.

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I've watched all the films to date and read the chamber of secrets, IMO the story was well done and I was capable of reading it wuthout falling asleep.

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I had to read the first couple of books for work. Given the change in writing style from the first to second books, I suspect they got a ghost writer in.

Terry Pratchett is *way* better (also just started reading Martin Millar's books which are also way better).

As far as Tolkien is concerned, he hit his peak with The Hobbit and after that it was just over long remixes.

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*shrug* I like 'em.
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Hmm methinks I might have fed a troll or two [evil]
[Wink] [Razz]

I suppose that the hype got to me and so I am doing my bit in resisting it.

Hope Harry dies, that way we are sure there will be no follow-ups, unless J.K. does a Conan-Doyle.

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I tried reading the first Harry Potter book, but I'm afraid it was all greek to me.

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quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
I tried reading the first Harry Potter book, but I'm afraid it was all greek to me.

I knew this thread would turn into a punfest wand day.

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Yeah, leave it to Steen to conjure up the first pun.

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Why does everyone always compare HP to LOTR? With the exception of being in the fantasy genre and written by Brits, they are completely different. (Okay, okay, and they both employ the "good vs. evil" plot device.)

I finished the last book on Sunday. I didn't like it (or the 6th book, actually) as much as I liked the earlier ones. I think the first three or four were the best in the series. I don't think J.K. Rowling writes older teens as well as she does younger characters. In some ways it seems like aging the characters is forced. It also seemed to me that she was rushing the book, just to get through it and get everything tied up. Overall though, it's a good series and she has a whimsical imagination and a clear writing style.

And for all the complaining adults: They're kid's books. Get over it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
I tried reading the first Harry Potter book, but I'm afraid it was all greek to me.

Actually, I think that's worth adding to my wish list.

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