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Grummash

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Icon 1 posted January 22, 2006 06:55      Profile for Grummash     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I was clearing out a desk drawer, and I found some pictures (yes, paper pictures, remember them?) from a museum visit last year. I took this shot because this would be a great way to make that final journey....the one that none of us can avoid! I wondered if anyone else has something specific in mind for their last journey?

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Oh mercy! That's just so macabre! [Eek!]
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I wouldn't mind the usual Trek thing; being shot out of the ship to float for eternity amongst the stars.

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Gummash...the real question is: Bury or Cremate?

I want to be cremated but not sure where I want to be placed. [crazy]

*edit: Nice ride

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I, too, want to be cremated. If I'm dead, there's really no sense in me taking up six feet by 3 feet by 7 feet of space or so. Just burn me and throw my ashes somewhere. Or throw me out in the wild to be consumed by animals and have me properly break down and biodegrade.
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Icon 1 posted January 22, 2006 11:06      Profile for Grummash     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Rhonnie - it's a little bit more macabre than it appears at first [Frown] The museum used to be a Workhouse (in the 1800s), where paupers could get basic food and a room, in return for long hours of soul-destroying manual labour. Workhouses were definitely the last resort. Eventually, this workhouse became a hospital, and because it was so remote they needed a way to transport the deceased into the nearest town to the graveyard. The horse and cart was replaced with this magnificent Norton & side-coffin sometime around 1920-1930.

Matias - for me, the answer is definitely burial. Cremation is much cheaper than burial in the UK as the high cost of land has prevented the expansion of existing graveyards.
However, as a pagan, it is important to me for my corpse to return to the earth and, through decomposition, be absorbed back into the earth. There is a growing number of Woodland burial sites in the UK, as opposed to religious graveyards, where a non-religious burial can be arranged in a bio-degradeable coffin (cardboard or whicker) and a commemorative tree planted. If I can afford it when the time comes, this is the way for me.

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Ashes at sea. Dependent on any environmental impact, of course.

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I'd like to be freeze dried and shaken, but I don't believe it's available here.

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Icon 1 posted January 22, 2006 12:32      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Grummash:
However, as a pagan, it is important to me for my corpse to return to the earth and, through decomposition, be absorbed back into the earth.

Have you considered donating yourself to the local lost dogs home?

Or perhaps burial at sea would be a little less confronting (but with much the same result).

Personally, I don't care what happens to my mortal remains once I'm finished with them, they can put me out the front in a green plastic bag on bin day if they like, you won't hear me complain.

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I want to be compressed into a diamond i.e. cubic zircona. My wife's next husband could then use the stone for an engagement setting. She did promise not to bring a date to my funeral.

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Grummash

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
Have you considered donating yourself to the local lost dogs home?

There's a thought...if all usuable organs are harvested for transplant in a timely manner...there should be plenty of good meat left for the hounds [Big Grin]

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That's a bitchin' idea pictured there...

I've already donated my body to science, but perhaps I can edit the will to request cooler transport to the autopsy table. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
I, too, want to be cremated. If I'm dead, there's really no sense in me taking up six feet by 3 feet by 7 feet of space or so. Just burn me and throw my ashes somewhere. Or throw me out in the wild to be consumed by animals and have me properly break down and biodegrade.

By law in NYS, if the ground was a former cemetary they CANNOT build housing or construction on it, when the cemetary closes and the graves are removed. It's a violation of the NYC Department of Buildings code, to mix construction debris with human remains, i.e. the cemetary.

I tell my parents over and over, if I die, just cremate me and spend my money like it's Louisanna. If I am dead, my money does me no good.

I also told them if I get hit by a car, or killed in a terrorist attack, to just go to the bank and take my money out and spend it. No use letting it go to waste.

When you buy burial property you get a 30 year deed to the parcel of land. So in essence, I am a burden to society for 30 years AFTER I'm dead. I see no point in wasting resources.

http://www.dos.state.ny.us/cnsl/cemreg.html

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1. Dig hole
2. Throw body in
3. ???
4. Profit!!!

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I do like the tree/bush idea that some of you have mentioned. Maybe I will add that to my cremation ceremony. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Maggs:
When you buy burial property you get a 30 year deed to the parcel of land. So in essence, I am a burden to society for 30 years AFTER I'm dead. I see no point in wasting resources.

In the UK there is a lot of pressure to sell rural land to property developers, although there is plenty of urban land that can be redeveloped for housing. The growing interest in Woodland burials takes advantage of agricultural "set-aside' land whereby other uses are found for agricultural land that was over-producing against food quotas.

The result is that rural green spaces are being secured for long-term public access and property developers are being forced to regenerate inner-city areas. So, although I can't speak for NYS, in the UK this type of burial protects resources and doesn't drain them. I can see that in other circumstances, cremation is more socially responsible.

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Oh that woodland burial sounds great. I remember telling my mother that I wanted to be wrapped in one of my quilts and an apple tree planted over me. First she said that would be gross. the thought of eating an apple from a tree over my burial site made her queasy. Then she told me it was against the laws. That was about 10 years ago so maybe the laws here have been changed. I'll have to check it out.
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YaYawoman: an apple tree would be a classy choice ( in a variety that is local to your area) but for me it has to be a Rowan . Mrs Grummash has been advised accordingly [Big Grin]

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I would prefer cremation, and I always liked the idea of my ashes being scattered in a Giant Sequoia grove.

Of course, I have to wonder about the legality of that. Those groves are generally protected, though some do extend onto private land, if I recall correctly.

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I'd gladly donate my body for teleportation experiments.. [Razz]

Who knows, maybe something goes wrong and I end up in the parallel universe... as the emperror of earth [evil]

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I'll probably be cremated. We have a plot back home, but it costs too much to get a body there. So my mom and grandpa were cremated.

I did have some of my mom's ashes incorporated in a glass sculpture. I had a sculpture made for each of us kids. It is so beautiful and everyone loves theirs. My niece pats it and says hi to grandma each morning.

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quote:
Originally posted by Grummash:
YaYawoman: an apple tree would be a classy choice ( in a variety that is local to your area) but for me it has to be a Rowan . Mrs Grummash has been advised accordingly [Big Grin]

Well of course you'll be remembered with a rowan. It's the most holy of all holy trees. I've always wanted to see a live rowan; thus far I've only read about them.

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I'm with the cremation group. However if I was to be buried it would be in a spring loaded coffin, set to catapult my remains upwards on removal of the lid. That would make Time Team 2200 a bit more interesting [Smile]

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The funeral of one of the firefighters that died in the Victorian bushfires was on the news tonight and his coffin was transported in a sidecar. For some reason it made me think of this thread.

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