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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 17:53      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Short review: Great movie! [Smile] Shiny, even. =D

Apologies to readers: I am not by any stretch of the means a frequent reviewer of books/media/movies...and it shows...

Long review:
Joss Whedon's Serenity, successor to his brief series, Firefly, is well...a great trip.
This movie complements Firefly well, but prior exposure is not necessary to enjoy it, as found by my friend (hereafter known as 'dragon-friend'). Long story short (*), I did manage to see nearly all of the series, including the pilot, last week. We both agree that the character development was very good, giving a good feel for the characters' personalities early on, but building on that further over time. In this regard, I think that Serenity exceeded the pilot episode - though the regular episodes certainly elaborated on smaller details of interpersonal relationships far better than the broad brush of this movie.

One especially refreshing development in this movie was the time and attention given to River Tam (Summer Glau) - she gave a very powerful performance, and really furthered her 'darkly cute' manner. Really, all I can say is "wow," and I'll leave it at that. ^_^

On the other side of the equation, I think Inara (Morena Baccarin) was put in more of a 'Deanna Troi' role (re: outfit, etc.), which I found ridiculous at times, especially for the way she was portrayed in the series. Targeting the larger audience, I suppose ignoring the "Companion" business was a smart move, though I thought it was a pretty interesting facet in the series.

I think the rest of the crew of the ship Serenity - namely, Malcolm (the Captain), Zoe, Wash, Jayne & Kaylee - we mostly portrayed the same way, with most of the focus on the Captain. Needless to say, Malcolm does his very best to show off, and does get his ego deflated to more natural levels. ^_~ On a related note, dragon-friend thought that some fighting scenes (come on...that's a given with Malcolm...no spoilers here...) were a bit carried away, and just a bit too much. Having seen the series, I think it's pretty much on par for El Capitan.

Since I have no wish to provide any spoilers about I'll just talk about a few things that I've pondered lately.

Speaking of ridiculous fights, I still didn't have many issues with it, though I did feel that one part could have gotten a whole 50 items checked off from Peter's Evil Overlord List. (To their credit, though, I do not believe there as a big red button marked "Do not press!" =D) Also, I fear such a comparison could be an insult to Serenity, but I found this movie to be an order of magnitude better than "Star Wars: Episode III." Don't kill me for having brought up that movie, but the idea just occurred to me last night...and how much more I enjoyed Serenity. I guess that could be misread as "It didn't suck," but then again, I'm a fan of mutt, which has the tag line: "All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less."

Having watched a bunch of Firefly already, I found it to be quite an enjoyable series, and found plenty of traces of Joss Whedon's style that he previously established in Buffy, the Vampire Slayer. I'm probably not the first person to use this term, but if I am, I hearby coin the term 'Whedon-esque' to describe a certain manner of whimsical facetious speech, found in both series. Serenity definitely contains plenty of Whedon-esque dialogue. =D Sadly, I'd attempt to model some discussion in this review after it, but it doesn't translate well to the written word, and generally breaks more than a few grammar rules. [Wink] Speech isn't the only parallel to Buffy, as there is at least one hysterical sub-plot/character/item borrowed from an old episode. Also, there was one scene near the end that made me think of a 'gesture' featured in the 'silent episode' that would have been absolutely perfect.

Another thing that was featured far less in the movie, but has piqued my curiosity a good deal - the routine use of Chinese in the spoken dialogue. In Firefly, a good 15% of the dialogue is Chinese, but in Serenity, it's probably under 5%. My only guess is that China probably overtook Earth's population in their history, and so there was a great cultural/lingual merger. Otherwise, I cannot possibly understand why everyone can speak perfect English, but mutter/curse/yell in Mandarin. (If everyone [significant portion of American audience excepted] can understand it, what's the point of using it? It's not like you're keeping a great secret!) Mind you, the written use of Chinese, in the form of kanji, was very quirky, and appeared to be just for show. Even my untrained eyes recognized the fact that parts of it weren't actually kanji, and dragon-friend pointed out that some of it was katakana, which really doesn't make sense. He also pointed out that the Asian cultural ideas were pretty inconsistent, and not followed through to completion. I can appreciate these points, but I not as learned as him when it comes to Asian cultural studies - I have weak background in Asian religions, focusing on Japan...he minored in it (or was it a double major?). Needless to say, this won't really annoy many people...just us pedants. [Wink]

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to kick back now and watch disc 3...just go see the movie - you'll like it. [Big Grin]

(I'd give a pretty good recommendation of it for a date, unless you have a very sensitive significant other/date/whatever, as some content might disturb a few people. Heck, dragon-friend and I are both familiar with some pretty unpleasant things featured in sci-fi and/or anime, but we're agreed that one thing is more than a bit unsettling. [For any familiar with the series, I'm talking about the 'reavers,' who are mentioned at least once or twice.])

I don't really do ratings, so I'll just give dragon-friend's rating: 9.5 out of 10. ^_^
If compelled to give it a score of some kind, I'll say "Two thumbs up."

P.S.
*While it might kill my /.-reading geek cred., I had not seen Firefly prior to last week. After I found out that I'd be seeing this, and *gasp* writing about it, I figured it would really only be right that I'd actually see the series first. Alas, despite their insanely fantastic delivery times and track record, Netflix didn't get it to me in full in time. I saw discs 1 & 2 last week, and enjoyed them quite a bit, as out of order as I may have seen it -- and discs 3 & 4 got delivered in the mail a mere 30 minutes before I headed to the theater.

P.P.S. Oh yeah...THANK YOU SNAGGY!!!! Thanks to the producers as well! Also, domo arigatou, dragon-friend, for covering the subway fare. [Smile] All in all, it was definitely a good day - I really can't complain (and I'm so damn good at doing that!) - a day that started with coffee with two cute, lovely, smart women, had a great movie in between, winded down with coffee made by a cute redhead barista, and ended with geek talk with a friend. ^__^

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I am hoping for a Firefly / serenity themed JoT tomorrow (hint hint)

Brian
(at least let that be on of the answers: o I can't comment on the cartoon - too excited about Serenity)

I'm doing a triathelon (kayak / canoe, bike, run) saturday, and camping ner the starting spot, so I won't be seeing it opening night. but I WILL see it.

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Icon 1 posted September 29, 2005 11:35      Profile for magefile     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hopefully I'll see it tomorrow. I suspect many of us here at the Uni are excited about it! My roommate and a few other friends want to watch the series, too, so it should be interesting to see how they react to the series after seeing the film.
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I will see it tomorrow regardless. I will kill the gate watch just to get off base, though that shouldn't be necessary. I can't go until after 7pm though, so I hope it isnt packed...
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Shiny! I will be seeing it Saturday night [Big Grin]

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Great movie.

I dragged along heaps of friends who hadn't seen the series and even they thought it was great.

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I am so going tonight after work. I get off at 7 and it starts at 740 and it takes 30 minutes to get across town. Horay for previews, lets hope its not packed. I'm dragging along some friends as well. Most of em have seen "Buffy" but not "Firefly" which is Joss's best work I have seen.
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Just got back from the Big Damn Movie... I'm still processing it. But it was great. As DM said, even if you're not already a Browncoat, you should be able to catch up, thanks to the segment at the beginning.

Seems as though everyone fell right back into their characters and rhythms, and good to see Kaylee without the extra weight Joss had Jewel do for the series... heh heh...

Some good turns here and there that I wouldn't dream of spoiler-ing (that's another podcast altogether).

I think this flick makes a great closing to the series, if that's how it goes, but if the box-office is willing, it's also open enough (due to the serial nature of what they do) to allow for more flicks.

Sadly, there were only about a dozen or so folk in the theatre I saw it, 7:15 show, but maybe it will pick up on word of mouth. Or word of forum. So go see the Big Damn Movie, would ya?

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Edit: Whedon... thanks DM, it was a typo!

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Oh no, no freaking way. I always wanted that shirt from thinkgeek, but I kinda buy other stuff that is more readily availible (damn you barnes and nobles). Joss Whedon is my master too. Oh, I couldn't get out to see the movie. I guess there is always tomorrow.
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Icon 1 posted September 30, 2005 21:01      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Folks...it's "Whedon" - not to be confused as a spelling cousin of "Wheaton" (i.e. Wil Wheaton).

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[Eek!] [Applause] [Eek!] [Applause] [thumbsup]

Nitro and I went to see it yeasterday... wow, what a fantastic ride!

It's everything I had hoped for and more. We ended up staying for the next show too. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
[Eek!] [Applause] [Eek!] [Applause] [thumbsup]

Nitro and I went to see it yeasterday... wow, what a fantastic ride!

It's everything I had hoped for and more. We ended up staying for the next show too. [Big Grin]

Hmm, I guess my friends' reports that it was a disappointment was false then. Maybe I will go see it still.

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quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
It's everything I had hoped for and more. We ended up staying for the next show too. [Big Grin]

Are you allowed to do that in Canada? [Wink]

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Dang it...have to wait for it to be released to DVD....darn rural towns that think just because there's only about 800 people here, we don't need a movie theatre made especially to showcase the works of Joss! [Frown]

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Sounds like you have to fix that...

Charleston, SC is no better. I have to go all the way across town to find a movie thater that even carries it. Not to mention the show time suck.

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It is number two in the box office so far! Very nice! [Applause]

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YAY! They have to bring back "Firefly." I would kill almost anyone for that. And I am trained in the use of a 9mm Baretta.
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quote:
Originally posted by The White Tree:
YAY! They have to bring back "Firefly." I would kill almost anyone for that. And I am trained in the use of a 9mm Baretta.

You and Jace are gonna get along rather well

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quote:
Originally posted by alfrin:
quote:
Originally posted by The White Tree:
YAY! They have to bring back "Firefly." I would kill almost anyone for that. And I am trained in the use of a 9mm Baretta.

You and Jace are gonna get along rather well
Maybe they'll end up on the same ship. Navy, Marines... could happen.

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quote:
Originally posted by Matias:
It is number two in the box office so far! Very nice! [Applause]

But it's number 2 with only $10 million in ticket sales. [Frown] That doesn't look too good since they spent $40 million to make the movie. Hopefully this will be a steady money maker instead of dropping off sharply after the first two weeks they way most movies do, otherwise I think we'll have to live without Joss Whedon's other two movie ideas.

I saw the movie yesterday. I loved it! It was a little bit hard to follow in the first couple of minutes, just because it was hard to figure out what was really happening and what was fantasy or flashback. I started laughing pretty early on and I loved the fight scenes. <SPOILER>The part where they find their hideout burned and everyone dead reminded me a lot of Star Wars. I could hear Alec Guinness saying, "There was nothing you could have done had you been there, Mel. You would have been killed, too, and River would be in the hands of the Alliance."</SPOILER> It made me really want to see Firefly, but unfortunately none of the video rental places around here carry it. This may be the perfect excuse to get Netflix. [Big Grin]

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Loved it too, and lots of laughing from the crowd. also a few gasps [Eek!] and some NOOs! [cry baby] during a certain scene. I could see a bit of confusion with the back story of some of the characters, but as the reviews have said you can enjoy it even if you've never seen an episode of Firefly. [Applause]
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But it's much better if you saw Firefly first.
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Saw it too. I won't rate it better than Star Wars, but it definitely was worth seeing. I loved the loose deflector panel.

I also saw the series. One big disconnect from the series: no "blue hand" people. The series had them as River's mysterious experimenters, not the egomaniac scientist. Minor point.

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quote:
Originally posted by The White Tree:
But it's much better if you saw Firefly first.

Probably so, but I'm actually glad I didn't see discs 3 or 4 before seeing the movie. I think I rather enjoyed having a bit more of a surprise about a few details, that might have left the moving feeling 'lighter' if I'd learned many of the details beforehand. (Kind of like seeing 'major' trailers before seeing a 'weak' movie.)

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I'm going to see it today, so I'll check in later about what I thought about it.

Edit: Went today and have to say it was great. [Beard of Peter Gabriel!] [thumbsup] I'll have to catch up on the episodes. Sad to say I never watched when it was on. [cry baby] I didn't even know of its existence until Zwilnik posted that it had been cancelled. [Roll Eyes]

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