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GrumpySteen

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Icon 1 posted November 07, 2008 10:37      Profile for GrumpySteen     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
This is interesting.
Change.gov

Either Obama or his advisors understand that the internet is good not just for campaigning, but for communicating with the people. I like this.

It's written in plain, straight-forward language, too, which I like and am not used to seeing from a politician.

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Grummash

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Icon 1 posted November 07, 2008 12:13      Profile for Grummash     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
From Change.gov:

"Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe we must be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in. Immediately upon taking office, Obama will give his Secretary of Defense and military commanders a new mission in Iraq: ending the war."


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"The United States is trapped by the Bush-Cheney approach to diplomacy that refuses to talk to leaders we don't like. Not talking doesn't make us look tough – it makes us look arrogant.....Obama and Biden are willing to meet with the leaders of all nations, friend and foe. They will do the careful preparation necessary, but will signal that America is ready to come to the table......"

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These are the two things I posted in answer to TFD's question about what would be your choice for Barack's first announcement. [Big Grin]

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Change.gov nearly brought tears to my eyes. I was just telling Mrs. Club this morning that one thing Obama could easily change is the current secrecy of the executive branch. Kudos to transparency, even if it does already have a bit of spin evident.

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Icon 1 posted November 07, 2008 20:15      Profile for MacManKrisK     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ugh, MightyClub:
Change.gov nearly brought tears to my eyes. {snip} Kudos to transparency, even if it does already have a bit of spin evident.

I agree. It seems that Obama's so-called "charisma" really boils down to one simple thing: straight-forwardness. He just tells it like it is and that is a very refreshing change from the current administration.

I would say that the other ingredient in Obama's charisma is his message of hope. For 8 years now, politics in America has been dominated by messages of fear and doubt. Although there's always inherent spin in simple slogans, I will take "yes we can" any day over "the terrorists are out to get us."

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After going over that page there was one thing that particularly caught my eye and I'd like to get your thoughts on it.
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My guess is they know that. My guess is we'll be maintaining some sort of temporary presence in Iraq indefinitely.

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There must be something wrong with my computer, it failed to display the part where the Iraqi people get a say in this.

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TFD - this is the relevant section:

"A phased withdrawal will encourage Iraqis to take the lead in securing their own country and making political compromises, while the responsible pace of redeployment called for by the Obama-Biden plan offers more than enough time for Iraqi leaders to get their own house in order. As our forces redeploy, Obama and Biden will make sure we engage representatives from all levels of Iraqi society—in and out of government—to forge compromises on oil revenue sharing, the equitable provision of services, federalism, the status of disputed territories, new elections, aid to displaced Iraqis, and the reform of Iraqi security forces."

Now you could interpret this as the US giving the Iraqis the freedom to do things the US way, or you could read it as an intention to help Iraq build a stable and credible future.

For now, at least, I choose to see the second meaning.

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