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Tiroth
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For those of you who don't know, Athene is a blogger in his Ipower that is currently speaking out against internet provider companies who are against net neutrality. He recently found contacts that are higher ups in some of those companies that told him about a plan that they have, which will practically destroy the internet. The whole story is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2XPiqhN_Ns
he has some other Ipower videos that explain more about this issue.


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Man, I don't want to imagine about that plans. I has found this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBrbNybU6XU too.
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_____________________Tiroth There never has been Net Neutrality. Depending on where one lives, and how many ISP's compete for your service. If you have a phone line that could be surpassed, by two tin cans and kite string. Best download speed here is 4Kb. So don't cry about ISP throttling, I don't want to hear it. Choices here, Satelite, Local WiFiMax from M33access, their rates are higher than the dish types, A.T.T. and Alltell are putting up more EVDO Towers and 3G but they throttle throughput. My always wanting the latest Linux distro to try would be hitting their limits and service would be shut down till the end of the month.

Just for drill click on fifteen freshest posts, takes me a minute to see them, bet you get them faster.

Don't even mention that big wet dream Broadband over power lines, BPL with the part fifteen rules. Any farmer using his CB, or one of the local Hams myself included would shut down the system, from RF overload. Yes I chose to live out in the Boonies, the peace and quiet are almost deafening. yesterday the Mrs and myself watched a Whitetailed Deer nurse her fawn, so set in your basement and cry about net neutrality, we're heading out the door to walk to the headwaters of the Rifle river.

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quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
_____________________Tiroth There never has been Net Neutrality. Depending on where one lives, and how many ISP's compete for your service. If you have a phone line that could be surpassed, by two tin cans and kite string. Best download speed here is 4Kb. So don't cry about ISP throttling, I don't want to hear it. Choices here, Satelite, Local WiFiMax from M33access, their rates are higher than the dish types, A.T.T. and Alltell are putting up more EVDO Towers and 3G but they throttle throughput. My always wanting the latest Linux distro to try would be hitting their limits and service would be shut down till the end of the month.

Just for drill click on fifteen freshest posts, takes me a minute to see them, bet you get them faster.

Don't even mention that big wet dream Broadband over power lines, BPL with the part fifteen rules. Any farmer using his CB, or one of the local Hams myself included would shut down the system, from RF overload. Yes I chose to live out in the Boonies, the peace and quiet are almost deafening. yesterday the Mrs and myself watched a Whitetailed Deer nurse her fawn, so set in your basement and cry about net neutrality, we're heading out the door to walk to the headwaters of the Rifle river.

This has absolutely nothing to do with net neutrality.

Net neutrality would allow ISPs and companies to change the priority of various sites on the Internet based on how much money providers pay for their content to be delivered to you faster.

The fact that you get slow internet in boonyville, USA has nothing to do with it.

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quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
If you have a phone line that could be surpassed, by two tin cans and kite string. Best download speed here is 4Kb.

Is there real internet connection within line-of-sight of MoManVille?

If not, how many 15km line-of-sight hops would it take?

A man with your legendary radio skills should be able to cobble together a wireless network in his sleep.

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__________________________ The Famous Druid There in lies the rub, I am at the high point of the county. But well outside the 15click distance to the good towers, (cheap, not pure unobtainium) I can detect the signals with my gear but not enough signal to lock on.

Until Seven months ago the best bet was from the South, Now there is a tower to the NW and one to the NE I am thirty clicks to either one. The one to the South is twenty five clicks. I have spoken to both vendors, personally. "Get ten or more people in your area and we will see."

______________________ drunkennewfiemidget There are two edges to that sword, lets say that a Mom & Pop ISP springs up with good speed near here but they can not afford to pay for the big pipe needed to get the fast content then again people that are out of the major areas are left out again. So net neutrality is still a pipe dream, speed is going to be doled out to the big money. The net is not liberal,

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quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
Until Seven months ago the best bet was from the South, Now there is a tower to the NW and one to the NE I am thirty clicks to either one. The one to the South is twenty five clicks.

So find a farmer 12km to the South, buy him a few beers, and put a remote relay on his barn roof.

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______________________ The Famous Druid __ Actually there is a possibility that the local Cable Comp. Mom & Pop may be talked into this.

http://www.openhsmm.org/openhsmm-ap.html


There is also the problem that WiFi dies at rivers and the tree lines along rivers, and we have rivers on the North, West, and South. I chose this site because of the Radio location, then it became apparent that an ISP would be the next one. That cable guy is to the West maybe I can get him to let us put in the WiFi modem at a cable end near here, and this side of the river, he does not seem to be receptive to the plight of us past his wires.

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