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Icon 2 posted April 28, 2008 17:33      Profile for tweety   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Don't know if y'all have seen these two stories. I'm not even really sure what to say.

First, there's the guy in Austria who locked up his daughter for 24 years and apparently fathered 7 children with her.

Austrian Story

Then, there's the the Wisconsin parents who let their 11 year old daughter die from diabetes because they thought all they needed was a little prayer.

Wisconsin Parents

Um, yeah.

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Wow. That Austrian story sounds like a real-life version of "Flowers in the Attic." It's unconscionable that the "father"'s maximum sentence is 15 years when he stole at least 24 years of his daughter's life.

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The father in Austria is 73 years old. In fifteen years, he'll be 88. My guess? He'll died in prison, like the dog he is.

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Icon 1 posted April 28, 2008 23:40      Profile for fs   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by tweety:
Then, there's the the Wisconsin parents who let their 11 year old daughter die from diabetes because they thought all they needed was a little prayer.

Wisconsin Parents

Um, yeah.

I hadn't heard about the Austrian one. The Wisconsin ones I heard about a while back. I'm glad the siblings are no longer with the parents; I couldn't believe that initially they let them keep the other kids, saying that there were no signs of abuse.

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The girl has three siblings, ranging in age from 13 to 16, the police chief said.

"They are still in the home," he said. "There is no reason to remove them. There is no abuse or signs of abuse that we can see."

Apparently a corpse isn't sufficient evidence.

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quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
The father in Austria is 73 years old. In fifteen years, he'll be 88. My guess? He'll died in prison, like the dog he is.

With any luck, the judge will go easy on him, and sentence him to 15 years 'home detention' in that cozy little guest-room in the basement.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
Wow. That Austrian story sounds like a real-life version of "Flowers in the Attic." It's unconscionable that the "father"'s maximum sentence is 15 years when he stole at least 24 years of his daughter's life.

This austrian story reminded me of Natashe Kampunsch (also an austrain who was kidnapped and lived in some guys basement for 8 years). though they say the daughter in the latest story is severly disturbed and Miss kampunsch doesn't seem that disturbed (in her interviews, who knows in real life). She's getting her own talk show this spring I hear.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
Wow. That Austrian story sounds like a real-life version of "Flowers in the Attic." It's unconscionable that the "father"'s maximum sentence is 15 years when he stole at least 24 years of his daughter's life.

The first comparison that came to my mind was with David Lynch's "Blue Velvet", only it is of course so much worse. But it has the same small town background, with gardens planted with flowers in neat regimented rows, and respectable neighbours who are politely indifferent to one another. However I do so hope that they do not make a film of this, as the facts are just so much more horrifying than any fiction.

This has been the lead story on the news here for the last day or so, and there is a lot about it on the BBC site, including this radio interview with the chief investigating officer, which is all the more horrifying for being so factual and understated.

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The first comparison that came to my mind was with David Lynch's "Blue Velvet"
Never saw the movie. There's a book called The Collector by John Knowles, though. The story is very similar to the Natasha Kampunsch events and this latest one. The book itself is freaky, but to have real life events so similar makes not only these real events extra creepy, but certainly adds a supercreepy aura to the book.

On the bright side, while the woman held captive in the book dies, in real life these two made it out alive. How well they'll be is anyone's guess, though.

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__________________________ Wrong Just Wrong. Not that the news is wrong but the story is just so revolting, I really try to not judge people but this male pup in the litter even grosses me out. Sick, Sick, Sick.

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Being a mother, this truly makes me sick to my stomach. Where do these people think of stuff like this? I just really can't say anything else. [Mad]

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
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Originally posted by Xanthine:
The father in Austria is 73 years old. In fifteen years, he'll be 88. My guess? He'll died in prison, like the dog he is.

With any luck, the judge will go easy on him, and sentence him to 15 years 'home detention' in that cozy little guest-room in the basement.
Nah, wussy laws in today's society prevent it.
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quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
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Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
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Originally posted by Xanthine:
The father in Austria is 73 years old. In fifteen years, he'll be 88. My guess? He'll died in prison, like the dog he is.

With any luck, the judge will go easy on him, and sentence him to 15 years 'home detention' in that cozy little guest-room in the basement.
Nah, wussy laws in today's society prevent it.
I heard the guy met Saddam and bin Laden...

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quote:
Originally posted by tweety:
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The first comparison that came to my mind was with David Lynch's "Blue Velvet"
Never saw the movie. There's a book called The Collector by John Knowles, though.
John Fowles actually. Not his best book, but a great read nonetheless. The contrasting voices of the two protagonists is handled brilliantly.

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John Fowles actually.
Doh. And the book is sitting on a shelf less than 10 feet away. That's what I get for not double checking.

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So they thought God was testing their faith by making their daughter sick. The sad thing is that they'll probably think God has judged them unworthy or something because the daughter died, which means they'll keep at it... except moreso. They really shouldn't be able to keep the rights to the other children, because sooner or later, this is going to repeat itself.
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Originally posted by Metasquares:
So they thought God was testing their faith by making their daughter sick. The sad thing is that they'll probably think God has judged them unworthy or something because the daughter died, which means they'll keep at it... except moreso. They really shouldn't be able to keep the rights to the other children, because sooner or later, this is going to repeat itself.

The thing that really gets me is that apparently they didn't belong to a sect that doesn't believe in medical intervention, period. They were just too self-righteous and goddamn stupid to take the kid to a doctor and see if maybe it wasn't the devil spiritually attacking the kid.

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