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TheMoMan
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Icon 1 posted March 24, 2008 03:45      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
________________________ This not a joyous Milestone

____During the night the US casualties count reached Four thousand lives from direct action. Not to count the ones that came home and offed them selves.

____Please pray for their souls.

____These brave men and women have insured that the price of oil will stay above eighty US dollars / barrel.

____ You may thank the Shrub.

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The Famous Druid

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Icon 1 posted March 25, 2008 03:11      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
That's 4000 US military deaths.

Uncle Sam also has nearly 200,000 mercenaries (sorry - "private security contractors") in Iraq, guarding buildings, escorting convoys, torturing (sorry - "stressfully interrogating") prisoners, etc. Jobs traditionally done by soldiers before the recent fashion for "outsourcing" provided a convenient way of making the body count look smaller. Over 1,000 of them have been killed.

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Ugh, MightyClub
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Icon 1 posted March 25, 2008 09:49      Profile for Ugh, MightyClub     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Indeed a sad milestone, but I also think some perspective is in order. Many people like to compare the current US involvement in Iraq with American involvement in the Vietnam war/conflict/gentleman's disagreement, so let's do that. In the ~7 years US troops were in Vietnam somewhere between 47,000 and 58,000 soldiers were killed, depending on your source. (See here, here, and here.) Some quick math shows that the rate of KIA's was around 8 times higher during the Vietnam war. I don't have time to compare overall troop numbers right now; maybe that would show a higher percentage of troops killed in Iraq. Still, the raw numbers are striking.

I regret that we ever got ourselves involved in this mess, but the fact is we are involved. We can debate for years over whether we should be involved, but you can't change the fact we went and got ourselves involved. And now that we're involved, getting untangled is not going to be easy. If we pack up and go home right now we may feel good for a while, but that won't last. If nothing else we'll have sown anger and distrust among whatever segment of Iraqis believes we'll put things right. And that can't be good in the grand scheme of things.

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ASM65816
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Icon 2 posted March 27, 2008 19:23      Profile for ASM65816   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
March 24, 2008 03:45
You may thank the Shrub.

I'd like to take a moment to thank the UN officials and their associates for their cozy relations with Saddam:

Thank you, Benon Sevan (head of the Oil for Food Programme), for accepting over $150,000 in bribes while Saddam violated UN resolutions with a reported $11 billion for military and non-humanitarian uses. (FYI: The Oil for Food Programme was supposed to be humanitarian aid, not _dictator_ aid.)

Thank you, UN, for allowing Benon Sevan to keep his diplomatic immunity and benefits after his corruption and aid to Saddam in perverting humanitarian ideals were proven.

Thank you, UN, for not noticing misuse of an aid program when Saddam built 78 palaces worth an estimated $2 billion while under economic sanctions.

Thank you, UN, for not noticing more than 2000 companies in 66 countries paying illegal surcharges and kickbacks to Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq throughout the years of the Oil for Food Programme.

Thank you, UN, for sending air-defense missile systems to Saddam as "humanitarian" goods shipped under the Oil for Food Programme.

Thank you, UN, for treating the Iraqi offers of $25,000 to families of Palestinian suicide bombers as part of peaceful international relations.

Wow ... I think I actually despise the UN more than I despised Saddam. Thanks, guys!

Afterthought: I bet Saddam thought the UN was part of the Iraqi government. After all, they were on his payroll for years.

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Icon 1 posted March 27, 2008 20:24      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
So very very confused... [crazy]

As Ghandi said to Woodrow Wilson while building the Brooklyn Bridge:
"Your ass looks really big in that dress".

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