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Ashitaka

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Icon 1 posted January 31, 2008 05:23      Profile for Ashitaka     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
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What I find disturbing is the city official that stated that cross walks are only nessesary in residential areas near schools. This is a very bad idea for the enviorment. Do they think that only students walk?

In thier statement I see the problem with the mentality of american residential planning. They don't build stores near where people live which means people don't have a choice about walking to the store instead of driving. Zoned communities are just plain bad ideas. If america wants to survive the coming lack of cheap fossil fuels they are goign to have to change thier ideas on zoning and walking.

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_________________________ Yup, I agree.

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Wait, what do you mean? Driving's bad for the environment? Burning gasoline is bad? I have to walk?? Um, what's walking, again? Is that the thing I do when I get up off my chair to search for the TV remote? I thought that was called search and rescue.

All kidding aside, I don't have a TV. No, seriously, there are multiple pieces to the total solution for the US in regards to fossil fuel dependence. One of them would be to plan out communities wherein one doesn't need to drive anywhere. And, if you do need to drive, make public mass transit an affordable, likable, and easy to use alternative. This, of course, will require an entire culture shift. With that in mind, remember that it took 2 Word Wars to get the US to step away from its isolationist attitude. (Considering current world affairs, maybe not such a good thing afterall?)

The other bits, of course, include utilizing construction methods that promote efficient energy use, renewable energy for powering a house (solar roof panels are a good start), recycling waste water at the home and efficient land use. Why is it that when a community is built the builder tears down all the trees and then plants immature trees? Why not leave what's there? Or move them? Doesn't make any sense to me.

Anyway, just my $0.02 worth. Hmm ... all things considered, might want to change out to Euros. Then my opinion should account for more.

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What a bunch of whinners. I have never heard anybody complain about zonning. People that don't even live in the US complaining about it, now I've heard it all. I like it fine here in Arizona.
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(tan(Ball State Crosswalks) == municipal zoning)

Anyone here read Jane Jacobs?

Basically, her thesis was:
  • mixed residential/retail = good
  • pure residential = bad
  • residential-free downtown = urban decay
  • square residential blocks = good
  • residential cul-de-sacs = social stagnation

Those last two are IMHO the most interesting. The argument is that on open blocks, people's social spheres extend a fairly consistent distance each way from home, and so each person's sphere overlaps and interacts with a set of neighbours which is not exactly the same as the set any neighbour's sphere overlaps, while a cul-de-sac tends to form a closed community which ends at the corner, no matter where on the street you live.

Oddly enough, cul-de-sacs are also considered bad feng-shui... [Razz]

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Ashitaka

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quote:
Originally posted by Huicho:
What a bunch of whinners. I have never heard anybody complain about zonning. People that don't even live in the US complaining about it, now I've heard it all. I like it fine here in Arizona.

I lived in the USA for 25 years. Just don't say that you don't like my whinning, argue my points that I brought up.

My opinion on zoning has come from my perspective that I have gained livig outside of the US where the the shopping, the offices, and the housing are all mixed and in walking distance of each other in big cities and small.

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Having spent a nice bit in SE London (not proper) I have a far greater appreciation for being able to reach things on foot and with decent mass transit. Naturally, the same goes for New York, San Fran, and just about any large city and adjacent areas. (While I reckon a bike is faster, I found Boulder a relatively nice place to get around by foot. [I don't personally bike...I don't have 9 lives.])

Around these parts, life without a car is bloody miserable - there's one bus that stops infrequently (once every 2 hours to get from work to home), and to get any decent distance involves transfers and quite a good deal of time. I rather like walking, but it's not a practical option where I am. Still, unlike some folks I know, when it comes to very local things, like taking things to the post office or banking, I do hoof it. I think it's pretty sad to drive a 1/4 mile...

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