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Snaggy

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Icon 4 posted December 12, 2007 09:15      Profile for Snaggy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
In a 124-page decision Mr. Justice Michael Phelan ruled that the Safe Third Country Agreement, which came into effect on Dec. 29, 2004 and regulated refugee movement between Canada and the U.S., violates refugee rights and that the United States did not meet the conditions required to be considered a "Safe Country" under the terms of the Agreement.

"The U.S. does not meet the Refugee Convention requirements nor the Convention Against Torture prohibition (the Maher Arar case being one example.) Further, the STCA does not comply with the relevant provisions of the Charter. (The Canadian Charter of Rights)

http://www.rabble.ca/news_full_story.shtml?sh_itm=5764f99b85f84ac086aa782f30e411a6&rXn=1&

OK, that is it, I'm hiring a helicopter to fly out my brother and nieces! Who else needs a rescue? [Razz]

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The Famous Druid

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Icon 1 posted December 12, 2007 11:54      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
That judge better not pass through any US airports any time soon.

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quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
OK, that is it, I'm hiring a helicopter to fly out my brother and nieces! Who else needs a rescue? [Razz]

I don't know if anyone should leave now. The presidential election primaries are starting in just a couple of months now. [Wink]

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Yeah. I wanna make it through the election before I decide whether or not I need to evacuate. [Razz]

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As once was said, " There are four boxes to use in the defense of freedom; Soap, Ballot, Jury, and Ammo. Use in that order.

I would evacuate now to beat the rush and vote via absentee ballot as I do. One is also allow to vote in the primaries via an absentee ballot.

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My stance was always that I'd stay here until it became clearly dangerous or otherwise severely disadvantageous to do so in light of the situation with the government / military / economy. Then I'd be one of the first out.

Something like the 2008 elections getting canceled and the current regime retaining power indefinitely would probably do it, but if they wanted to do that, they're too late. They should have done it last year before all of the election hullabaloo started.

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quote:
Originally posted by Metasquares:
Something like the 2008 elections getting canceled and the current regime retaining power indefinitely would probably do it, but if they wanted to do that, they're too late. They should have done it last year before all of the election hullabaloo started.

Oh no! It's best to pretend democracy is still going strong as long as possible, then just face (read: "create") a crisis that calls for a suspension of the elections, or manipulate the results.

All right: IIRC, US constitution says that no one can be president more than twice, so no Bush this time. But any other appropriate straw man would do, don't you think so?

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Stereo __________________ Actually it so expensive to buy the advertising needed to get your name onto a ballot, that you would have morgaged your soul and your grandchildrens souls to the devil.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
That judge better not pass through any US airports any time soon.

Heh...quite so.

BTW...wanna go swimming stateside? =P

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
BTW...wanna go swimming stateside? =P

Hmmm, when Japanese soldiers did it to American prisoners it was called a war-crime, worthy of 15 years hard labor.

These days, it's just good clean fun

I s'pose it's like my sig line says, it depends who does it.

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I'm not sure what's more disturbing, to be honest. That the country is currently engaged in a political debate over whether or not torture is okay, or that this debate is getting split along party lines. WTF?

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Torture is okay... as long as your partner consents to it and you use safewords.

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