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TheMoMan
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Icon 1 posted December 10, 2007 04:43      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Stibbons ________________ I did not expect to see the results during my lifetime. I have been to peat bogs, and have been near a bog fire, the smell is akin to high sulfer coal. Some of my fireman friends claim it is hard to put out a peat fire because it will use the sulfer as an oxidizer.

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Icon 1 posted December 10, 2007 04:51      Profile for Stibbons   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I could buy that. Yeah, you have far more chance of making peat than you do oil from your squished plants - would probably burn much more effectively too [Smile]
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Stibbons ___________________ Here in the vastness of America including Canada there has been a drive to build pellet stoves. Basically wood chips and sawdust compressed into a pellet. then fed with a grain auger into a small fire pot. Most of these stoves will tolerate some percentage of Corn (maise) but then there is a clinker much like coal. One company makes what they call bio pellets wood and weed fiber compressed into pellets.

So would fuel pellets outgass like coal if heated.

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Moving into the relms of guesswork here, but I don't think they would on the same scale. You'd get some methane etc from the breakdown of decay of the organic matter in there, but not the same amount as from the hydrocarbon generation that's gone on within oily coals.

On a side note, that's a much more efficient way to use biofuels than bioethanol, as there isn't so much energy expended to make the pellets - you just need a tractor to dig them up and a machine to press them (and perhaps dry). In addition you're using the whole of the plant again. And they're just as renewable as bioethanol, as the plants regrow. A lot of domestic power generation in China is done by a similar method, coal pellets that can be burnt to generate heat and cook foods. There's a big drive to get biological models used instead as they'll reduce emissions.

Cow dung also makes a good fuel (as well as house walls). It also contains a high prercentage of methane and other flamable gases from the digestion (decay) of the plant matter in the cow's stomach. Plus it's renewable - it's just reprocessed grass, after all [Smile]

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Stibbons ______________________ Right now the priceing on wood or bio-pellets is competitive with natural gas (methane) and beats propane hands down. Also depending when you purchase the pellets has a lot to do with price. Just after the heating season the pellets are quite cheap as long as you are bying by the ton. Early or during the heating season and even large quantities are not cheap.

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quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
Wouldn't you have to squeeze an awful lot of snakes to run a car?

I could probably run an 18-wheeler, with all the snake-squeezing I do. [Wink]
Geez, spungo! Now how do we go about erasing that little image from our youthful and fragile psyches?

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quote:
Originally posted by garlicguy:
quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
Wouldn't you have to squeeze an awful lot of snakes to run a car?

I could probably run an 18-wheeler, with all the snake-squeezing I do. [Wink]
Geez, spungo! Now how do we go about erasing that little image from our youthful and fragile psyches?
Do a search for a movie titled "eel girl" on the internet (it's very NSFW). That will leave an image in your psyche that will obliterate any and everything spungo would ever come up with.

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Icon 1 posted December 11, 2007 12:26      Profile for spungo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
quote:
Originally posted by garlicguy:
quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
Wouldn't you have to squeeze an awful lot of snakes to run a car?

I could probably run an 18-wheeler, with all the snake-squeezing I do. [Wink]
Geez, spungo! Now how do we go about erasing that little image from our youthful and fragile psyches?
Do a search for a movie titled "eel girl" on the internet (it's very NSFW). That will leave an image in your psyche that will obliterate any and everything spungo would ever come up with.
I cannae wait to get home...

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quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
]Do a search for a movie titled "eel girl" on the internet (it's very NSFW). That will leave an image in your psyche that will obliterate any and everything spungo would ever come up with.

As exciting as it sounds, I've got enough people trying to get me to watch Two Girls One Cup that I think I'm going to pass. [Eek!]

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Icon 1 posted December 11, 2007 21:13      Profile for Xanthine     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
/me starts twitching

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/me busts out the hand lotion

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/me wonders how eel girl gets them to come out one at a time like that...

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