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Is this symbol the COMPLETE ancient flower of life? I would appreciate any opinions. http://thecompletefloweroflife.blogspot.com/ :eek:X
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Wow... I suspect inordinate importance has been attributed to the propogation of an asthetically pleasing shape/pattern. The brain finds symbols and patterns- even when there isn't one to be found. That site looks like a result of excess spare time.

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I do see how half those symbols fit into it. Perhaps if they highlighted in colour some symbols on the flower?
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quote:
Originally posted by ScholasticSpastic:
Wow... I suspect inordinate importance has been attributed to the propogation of an asthetically pleasing shape/pattern. The brain finds symbols and patterns- even when there isn't one to be found. That site looks like a result of excess spare time.

I think that explains most of the content on the internet.

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Wow... I suspect inordinate importance has been attributed to the propogation of an asthetically pleasing shape/pattern. The brain finds symbols and patterns- even when there isn't one to be found. That site looks like a result of excess spare time.
I think that explains most of the content on the internet.
Including, I'm afraid, my very own posts.

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I have no idea, but it gives me a great chance to plug my little app:
The Circle Monster. Requires Mac OS X 10.3.9 I think.

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I'm going to get my whole back tattooed with the flower of life and I'll live FOREVAR!!

I already have an atom with electron paths on the back of my knee which looks similar to one of the small interior flowers anyway.

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I already have an atom with electron paths on the back of my knee which looks similar to one of the small interior flowers anyway.
Oh dear. I'm afraid that atomic model is rather outdated. You should have gone for atomic orbitals instead.

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I'll get g orbital shape 2 on my other knee, and have everyone asking why I have toddlers stacking toys tattooed on myself.
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quote:
Originally posted by ScholasticSpastic:
Wow... I suspect inordinate importance has been attributed to the propogation of an asthetically pleasing shape/pattern. The brain finds symbols and patterns- even when there isn't one to be found. That site looks like a result of excess spare time.

I believe,the COMPLETE ancient flower of life is an interdimensional tool,a portal,a link back to awareness of the universal consciousness(god,the collective unconscious or whatever you would like to call it). The universal consciouness we were all part of before we entered this material world. The original flower(found in "the osireon" at abydos in egypt)is incomplete because it is only the first layer of three. The complete flower has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional. If you relax(sit three feet away from the scree)and let the flower slowly draw your eyes out of focus,the flower will open. Try and not focus on any one point,blankly stare,take the flower in as a whole. Do not strain your eyes,as it will happen naturally. We do not see with our eyes,we see THROUGH our eyes. Let your mind focus,dont fight it. You may get a headache and itchy eyes,that will quickly disappear. This is not a known science,but if you let it happen,you will be supprised by what appears. 4love and light 2all:)x (Use the hand drawn flower) The complete ancient flower of life is not a stereogram,a magic eye image or any other man made optical illusion.
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LOL - That is awesome. Masons and Jews conspiring to keep hidden the flower of life. I think they are getting a bad rap though. I mean, everytime there's an interdimensional portal in a movie and people go mucking around with it, bad stuff comes out and then the protagonist needs to get it shut before the end of the world happens and humanity is going to be enslaved to demonic overlords for ten thousand years of darkness. Or something.

On the other hand, now we see a concrete link that Masons are an arm of the Zionist conspiracy. Or maybe Zionists are an arm of the Masonic conspiracy. Or maybe they are like the federal government with two different conspiracies both trying to accomplish the same thing and refusing to share information and stepping on each other's toes and weaving a web of red tape that you'd need a flamethrower to get through.

Some things just make me go wtf.

P.S. The interdimensional portal didn't open for me. I'm American. Maybe your flower is in metric.

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The COMPLETE ancient flower of life contains the tree,the fruit,the egg and the seed of life. The complete flower also contains the three dimensional metatron cube which holds all the platonic solids. Not just the building blocks of life,but the building blocks of creation itself [thumbsup] This may help [Smile] http://www.sangraal.com/library/dedicated.htm
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quote:
Originally posted by andymonk:
The complete flower has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional. If you relax and let your eyes go out of focus,the flower will open. We do not see with our eyes,we see THROUGH our eyes. Let your mind focus,dont fight it! You may get a headache and itchy eyes,that will quickly disappear. Its not a known science,but if you let it happen,you will be supprised by what appears. 4love and light 2all:)x (Use the hand drawn flower)

In other words, it can be treated as a simple autostereogram. Not a terribly difficult thing to do with any repeating pattern.

Hand-draw one that shows a 3D picture and I will then be suitably impressed.

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And that would be why I get nothing more than ripping headache and foul temper from looking at that thing...

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I'm sure most of you have figured out that this guy's comments are clearly by rote. He's been busy.

A nutjob and a spammer... great. [shake head]

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quote:
Originally posted by Sxeptomaniac:
I'm sure most of you have figured out that this guy's comments are clearly by rote. He's been busy.

A nutjob and a spammer... great. [shake head]

Thanks, I was only sure he (?) was a coocoo but not a spambot. Thanks again for the research.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sxeptomaniac:
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Originally posted by andymonk:
The complete flower has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional. If you relax(sit three feet away from the screen)and let the flower slowly draw your eyes out of focus,the flower will open. Try and not focus on any one point,blankly stare,take the flower in as a whole. Do not strain your eyes,it will happen naturally. We do not see with our eyes,we see THROUGH our eyes. Let your mind focus,dont fight it! You may get a headache and itchy eyes,that will quickly disappear. Its not a known science,but if you let it happen,you will be supprised by what appears. 4love and light 2all:)x (Use the hand drawn flower)

In other words, it can be treated as a simple autostereogram. Not a terribly difficult thing to do with any repeating pattern.

Hand-draw one that shows a 3D picture and I will then be suitably impressed.

The complete ancient flower of life is not a stereogram,a magic eye image or any other man made optical illusion.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sxeptomaniac:
I'm sure most of you have figured out that this guy's comments are clearly by rote. He's been busy.

A nutjob and a spammer... great. [shake head]

I thought spammers advertise and try to sell something. I,m selling nothing and expect nothing.
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The complete flower of life is an unsubstantiated myth thought up by people in order to confer upon themselves the illusion of being particularly special (beyond the specialness enjoyed by the other kids on the short bus). The complete flower of life does nothing but irritate those of us who choose to exercise our minds rather than wallowing in mindless nursery stories for our adult lives. The complete flower of life is an explanation for a phenomenon that NO ONE HAS OBSERVED. It is an answer to a question no one asked. It is a waste of time. It is shit.

Love, ScholasticSpastic

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andymonk wrote:
I thought spammers advertise and try to sell something. I,m selling nothing and expect nothing.

You're right. You're not a spammer.

... but you're still a nutjob.

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quote:
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andymonk wrote:
I thought spammers advertise and try to sell something. I,m selling nothing and expect nothing.

You're right. You're not a spammer.

... but you're still a nutjob.

I'm of the opinion that spamming doesn't necessarily need to be for personal gain. It's the behavior, and I'd consider it inappropriate even if it were for something I believed in.

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Dude... you're ruining a perfectly snarky insult [Razz]

If you want to get all technical, though, you should at least point out that the term spam began being used on usenet to refer to unwanted posts which ere cross-posted to multiple groups long before it was applied to mass-emailed scams. Flowerboy here has cross-posted the same blithering idiocy to many forums that it is inappropriate for. The parallel is undeniable.

... and he's still a few fries short of a happy meal.

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Spammer, or troll?

Posting this stuff to skeptics.org.uk could be interpreted as trollish behaviour.

Personally, I've always always wondered why so many secret conspiracies who have spent centuries carefully guarding some Secret Of Cosmic Power feel the need to decorate their buildings with huge clues to the secret they're guarding.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Steen:
andymonk wrote:
I thought spammers advertise and try to sell something. I,m selling nothing and expect nothing.

You're right. You're not a spammer.

... but you're still a nutjob.

I'm of the opinion that spamming doesn't necessarily need to be for personal gain. It's the behavior, and I'd consider it inappropriate even if it were for something I believed in.
I'm of the opinion it doesn't need to be for financial gain. Andy is definitely deriving some sort of personal gain from it, whether it's trollish delight in arguing with people who tell him his line drawings are crap or finding people that validate his delusions or smug self-righteousness in his missionary zeal. He's exhibiting that same obsessive behavior that fundie Christians do when spreading the word of God to the unwashed masses of the Internet, including the inability to comprehend that we understand exactly what he's trying to convey, we just think it's codswallop. He also doesn't comprehend (much like the aforementioned digital missionaries) that we only bother to respond because it makes us LOL.

So Andy does derive personal gain from his spamming, even if it's not in the form of money. Though I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere in the wings is a 20 page PDF ebook on how contemplation of the Ancient Mystical Geometric Flower of Sacred Life can help you find health, happiness, true love, better sex, and enlarge your sex organ of choice. All for only 7.95. (And desperately in need of a spellcheck and a once over by a grammar nazi; lunatics seem to feel that language fundamentals are optional.)

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The incomplete flower is found all over the ancient world. The oldest and original incomplete flower can be found on several pillars within "the osireon" at abydos in egypt. The osireon(the tomb of osiris)is known to be the oldest building in egypt. To this day,no egyptologists or archeologist can explain why,who or what the flower was put there for. I believe the flower has been delibarately ignored by mainstream science,so world secret societies can keep the flowers secrets hidden. [Frown] http://www.users.bigpond.com/MSN/gary_fletcher/osireion.html http://www.grahamhancock.com/library/fotg/c45-5.htm
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