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TheMoMan
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Icon 1 posted January 31, 2007 16:29      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hi All___________________________Sorry to the non USA contingent but, I had to tell this. $ 21 Billion has been spent rebuilding Iraq and it seems that no one is sure where the money went. The power grid is still a shambles, the oil pipelines are not piping oil, Sewarage plants arn't and Watertreatment, boil your own, if you have the gas.

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this is why you should allow third party companies to monitor spending instead of just giving bush the money.

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I have a nephew who was assigned special escort duty to assure the safe and unfettered transfer of cash and gold bullion from Iraq to the United States.

He came home disheartened from the war because he believed this money was being sent to powerful private interests, located high up the administrative branch of the US government. He believed this because he saw this money being loaded into shipping containers marked "Halliburton".

The GAO has estimated over $5-billion in cash and bullion is missing from Iraq. In other words, this money has not been seen again -- unless of course Dick Cheney viewed it upon its arrival here.

The reason this action has not been addressed more seriously is centered on a group of people in this nation known as "Christian Conservatives." They are so conservative, in fact, they have unilaterally decided to conserve on words in the expression of their own version of the Ten Commandments, most specifically the 8th and 9th Commandments (7th and 8th depending on your sectsual preference) dealing with prohibitions against lying and stealing.

For those of you who forget, The reason for going into Iraq, the reasons for not addressing circumstances in New Orleans due to Hurricane Katrina, and most recently the "Bushfacts" on global warming have all been: lies.

These so-called "Christians" also seem to rationalize their own dealing with Biblical proscriptions against blasphemy. (Matthew 12:31, Titus 2:5). Then again, Hell is a "gated" community.

Apparently these are people who place their face in a Demagogue instead of the Decalogue.

Mo_Man, you're fighting the devil himself here. Your sense of outrage may be misplaced. Or at least, be futile.

Colonel Panic

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Here is the story. Of course this only relates to US money. An even greater, though unquantifiable, sum of Iraqi oil revenue has disappeared, as the accounting standards for that are even more lax. Among other things they don't even know how much oil they have pumped because it isn't metered. I would remind you that all the key appointees to posts in Iraq were vetted to ensure they had the "correct" political affiliations, so this is also a matter of great shame and humiliation for the Republican Party itsef too.

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Callipygous___________________My understanding of the Oil loses is close to $ 16 Billion more, so we are up in the $ 36-37 Billion range, not counting your countries valient lads and our solders, sailors and Marines.

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Why are we still wasting our time and money stealing oil from other countries? Solar panels are made primarily of silicon. Sand is primarily silicon dioxide. Therefore, solar panels are made primarily from sand. It's abundant here in Utah and throughout most of the United States.

Once made, a solar panel exposed to the elements can last several years (several decades with good maintenance) and would be cheaper than gasoline if manufactured in anything near that scale. The price of solar panels is artificially inflated by our failure to build the necessary infrastructure to keep up with global demand. The energy harnessed by solar panels is guaranteed to last for the life of our sun and emits close to zero pollution.

Using solar panels we could: set up desalination plants on the California coasts so that they can have good drinking water without taking it from other states.
Provide power to remote locations without stringing wires all over the place and spending money to keep them maintained.
Power electrolysis plants and compressors to produce and store hydrogen fuel.

After cutting down our use of coal and petroleum we'll be able to provide those resources very cheaply to those benighted parts of the world that don't get enough free energy from the sun. The massive drop in the price of extractive resources would cut the legs out from under most of the countries we consider rogue states (pot-kettle...) while allowing us to ignore them without worrying about the health of our infrastructure.

Why don't we do it? Because men don't believe they'll be able to seduce women as effectively in an electric car. To them I say: "Dude, it's not the car!"

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Spaz,

Your driving the wrong electric cars and dating the wrong women.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/04/technology/business2_wrightspeed/

You gotta get out of Utah more often, young man.

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Colonel Panic, please don't take this the wrong way, but you just made me need to change my trousers! I just discovered why America has a love-affair with the automobile! I am transported to a better place! My only concern is that those are two-seaters. Where would I put the rest of the women?

It's about time someone built a car that is sexy and responsible. Those would look great in my driveway plugged into a solar panel!

Also, we should all get out of Utah. Period.

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ScholasticSpastic____________________I have a link that I hope is still valid.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,245179,00.html

If FOX has taken it down, I will give you the gist. I believe that every thing is high end, so that people reading the article will believe that the start up costs are so high that it would be better to stay with good ole GWB backed energy companies. There are some really good solar stills that do not need electricity to opperate. There are some really good windmills.

http://www.survivalunlimited.com/eaglewindturbine.htm

Then there are really good sources for solar waterheating and air heating panels. About twenty five years ago there were even tax credits to retrofit your home with solar (anything) and a lot of people got burned by faulty equipment and salesmen.

http://edugreen.teri.res.in/explore/renew/pond.htm

I built one of these, I took a childs pool from K-Mart about ten inches deep, 4 and 1/2 feet in dia. set it on an old piece of concrete. poured in five bags of water softener salt, two of those bags were potasium salt, filled it with water and set back. Sunrise after build surface water 5 degrees above ambient air, thermocouple below the plastic showed one hundred degrees. Sunrise day two, watertemp at surface 100 hundred degrees thermocouple under plastic close to two hundred. At this point I was doubting the thermocouple, I stuck a cheap therometer (red alcohol type) deep into the water the bulb at the botom broke. reached for pieces, bad move damn that was hot. Now I realize I have a problem, a very hot tub of water and kids around. I covered the experiment, let it cool and slowly used the saline solution and salts in the water softener. Now I have twenty acres so an experiment with a stock watering tub may be in order.

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TheMoMan, What was the function of the salts and other solutes? My understanding is that they might be useful for increasing the vapor-pressure of volatile liquids, but would do very little to enhance the specific-heat of water. You report a temperature of 200. Was that F or C or K? If it was F, you were still too cold to require the salts. If it was C, the salts wouldn't have done you any good because I'm not sure you could add enough solute without getting mud. (I just tried to calculate the quantity of solute that would be required, per Liter, to increase the boiling point of water beyond 200 degrees C, but my table of water vapor pressures doesn't go that high, so I can't back my argument up.) If it was K, your experiment failed because that's colder than most winter temperatures. (Lowering the vapor-pressure increases the boiling temperature for those of us who haven't taken chemistry for a while.) Does the system exceed temperatures of 100 degrees Centigrade at sea-level? If it doesn't, consider saving your money and leaving the salt out next time.

You can also decrease the amount of solute required by using a solute that isn't ionic. Consider ethylene glycol or some other polar solute that doesn't consist of ions. Ions can be less effective for lowering your vapor pressure because the positive ones tend to hook up with the negative ones and they end up playing with fewer water molecules. (I can't believe there are actually people in the world who think they can't use chemistry in everyday life!)

Solar ponds appear to be an economical and versatile means of capturing and storing solar power. I'm having visions of underfloor heating pipes... Of course, this time of year, I ALWAYS have visions of underfloor heating pipes!

I've used a similar devise to stabelize the temperature near my South window (where I keep my orchids). I use large containers of water to collect heat during the day and then release it slowly throughout the evening. They never get as hot as your pond, but I'm growing a couple of orchids that my orchid encyclopaedia says cannot be grown indoors.

It is a source of shame for me that solar water heaters are so underutilized in the U.S. It's a proven, affordable alternative technology that thoroughly spanks the cost of gas or electric water heaters.

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I'm surprised it's only in the billions. It takes a lot of money and creative accounting to make another country as corrupt and socially irresponsible as the United States.

Over time, maybe we can get that figure into the trillions just like it is here (the US). After all, we do have a couple hundred years experience of using the cloak of democracy to siphon money from working people into the pockets of greedy politicians and businessmen.

I don't blame Bush or Dick, but I think a really enormous foam finger needs to be pointed at any human being who believes democracy breeds anything other than corruption and greed. It rarely matters who is President of such a political system... s/he's not in charge. The system is.

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ScholasticSpastic__________________The salts increase the specific heat of the solution, especially if they are satuated. Then the temp change is related to heat of crystalization. All the temps. I quoted were F. One problem I did worry over was the temp. going to get high enough to soften the wading pool enough to release the water. Try enough salt in one of your pails and chart the day to day temps. and hour to hour, I believe you will be supprised. I first learned about useing heat of crystalization back in the seventies when Ohio state University was experimenting with building a solar pond. Also Mother Earth News once did an article about heat storing that mentioned using salt, though not as saturated solutions. If you decide to try this, if using a metal bucket line it with a trash bag so you don"t get a lot of rust. You may also need to keep adding salt to stay ahead of the saturated sol. point. Hot water will absorb more salt than cols.

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Okay, TheMoMan, so there was a LOT more salt in your solution than I was immagining. Do you have some idea of what kind of concentrations you'd require to begin to see those effects? I think, maybe, the fact that most of my experience has been with unsaturated solutions has prevented me from observing this. (I'm not quite done with all my chemistry, yet.) If you just give me grams solute/liter solution (or, I guess I can do the conversions and you could give me American measurements) I could work the concentrations out for myself.

The effects of the heat of crystalization on the specific heat of water interest me and I'd like to explore it some more. (By which I mean I'm going to hassle my chemistry professor.) I may have seemed snooty in my previous response. That was just me in problem-solving mode; I forget how to be polite when I'm thinking about other things sometimes. I really like the low-tech aproach to harnessing solar energy! (Not as sexy as solar panels and electric race cars, though...)

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ScholasticSpastic__________________Hey your name was still in the clipboard, Any way get your hands on the CRC (Chemical Rubber Company) hand book of Chemistry and Physics. Look up Eutectic salts then scan for the the ones with the highest heat of crystalization. Thirty years ago I believe that a mixture of Sodium & Potasium Cloride was pretty far up and it was cheap, think water softner salt. I do not remember if I used 2 bags of K-Lite to three Bags of ordinary salt or the other way around. Any way I used well over a saturated solution, 200 hundred pounds. to about one hundred gallons of water. The whole idea is that near the salt in the bottom where the phase change is going on is the region of greatest temp. also if you disturbe it too much you change the dynamics, any way start playing and testing.

This thing is also good for trapping flys and mosquitos they think they can land on the water and walk but guess what the surface tension has changed. They end up drowning, I had to scrape them off.

I quess I will have to get off of my duff and build a big one to heat the crawl space of our house, The wife unit does not want me to fiddle with the furnace. Numbers I have heard one square foot of collector per one square foot of house, thats one big solar collector. Also I remember that the Uni. of Florida tested heat conducting paints on solar panals and found that Black chrome adsorbed the most followed by the blues, & Greens however radiation during cloud cover was the least with Elm Leaf green, So would pattena Copper oxide work I do not know. Also the depth of the salt solution increases the capture rate. Back to you.

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TheMoMan, Thanks, I've got the science of it now. By the way, do you also enjoy reading the CRC in front of people just to see their eyes glaze over? I've had the most luck using the bit with nothing but line-diagrams of organic compounds- it really does look like the writing from the side of a flying saucer.

Primary mode of heat storage: A stationary thermocline maintained by the concentration gradient between the top and bottom layers of highly saturated (not supersaturated) solution holds the heat in when the external temp. is low. Energy from sunlight is trapped in the ion-dipole bonds shared by the salt ions and the water molecules, thus significantly increasing the specific heat of the solution. Further, there IS a nice colligative effect, reducing the vapor pressure of the solution and limiting somewhat the heat-loss associated with evaporation. There may be some additional thermoregulation via solvation/recrystalization of the ionic solid but I couldn't find anything to confirm that.

The debate I ended up having with my professor was whether it would be better to use black or white pipes to run the water for my underfloor heating through. I won that one by pointing out that the atmosphere is mostly opaque to UV light, so I benefit most by working with the visible portion of the spectrum (and THAT is best absorbed by black piping). His argument was that I might better reflect the light back through the solution for better exposure levels. Now all I need to is graduate, get a job, move out of my studio appartment, and dig up my new yard.

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ScholasticSpastic_____________________Thouhts, and possible plans: One roll 400ft of 1 and 1/4 inch black plastic pipe Cpvc for sunlight resistance. One above ground swimming pool about twenty to twenty four feet in Dia. Enough Styrofoam insulation to be 4 inches thick across bottom and around the side. Fill the black pipe with water or a glygol mix (just changed my mind windshield washer fluid cheap) and place on the bottom looping the ends over the edge, no splices in the solution. Spread the salt about 6 inches thick on the bottom of the pool, start adding water.

The reasearch I have read states that near four feet or slightly over one meter is optimum depth and after it has stabilized don't stir up the solution near the bottom, as that is where the crystalisation is going on.

I have also read that green algae is not a problem as they absorb heat and pass it to the water, I have also heard that a small amount of Copper-Sulphate CuSO4 is needed to stop algae growth, and keep the solution clear.

I will try a small one this winter starting tomorrow with a kids pool out on the hill top filling it in 0-F temps, and watching the water temp. Also I may add green food color to see if that makes it work better, I know that blue/green cars sure fade in sunny climates.

BTY

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...I have also heard that a small amount of Copper-Sulphate CuSO4 is needed to stop algae growth, and keep the solution clear.

I'm confused about the necessity of keeping your solution clear. Wouldn't a more opaque solution absorb a greater portion of the energy from sunlight? Algae can be very colorful- especially at the salinity levels and temperatures you'll be seeing. CuSO4 might pose a threat to the surrounding vegetation so avoid it if you plan to landscape around your solar pond. Controlling algae is overrated. I have lots of it in my fishtank (not from waste build-up) and people are still very impressed with it. In many ways algae is a perfect plant- it's the only thing that seems to grow no matter one's level of horticultural experience.

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ScholasticSpastic________________________I am in agreement with you, I am only voicing opinions others have said. Any way I have one each bag of K-lite and ordinary rock salt, so tomorrow I will put one together and let you know if the tempature rises above ambiant.

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ScholasticSpastic____________________Well I did as I said I would. I have constructed a small scale solar storage experiment. Monday I will publish the weekend findings.

This has got to be the worst time of year to try solar but if it get up and going then I know that it would or could heat the house.

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TheMoMan, I am excited to hear how it turns out! You're right- if it works right now it'll work almost anytime.

My most exciting experiment (on my own time) has to wait until we get the new NMR installed. Some of my bacteria cultures have been growing crystals and I'd like to find out what they're made of (the crystals). I think it might be dolomite. I have pics. Send me an email (the address is in my profile) and let me know if you'd like to see them. I can't figure out how to post pics on the forum that aren't elsewhere on the web. They're pretty.

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ScholasticSpastic wrote:
I can't figure out how to post pics on the forum that aren't elsewhere on the web.

Try this

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Thanks, Steen! I will post pics of my culture crystals in the science forum- it best fits that topic. This thread is about the government wasting money and, well, the government bought my equipment...

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Mo_Man,

CNN is saying the reason that Bush and the Republicans cannot account for the money is not because they looted it, but they dropped it into the war zone and it ended up in the hands of ...

...TERRORISTS!!!

That's right more money than the honest people who suffered from Katrina will ever see went from GWB and Dick Cheney to terrorists.

No wonder Osama is still at large.

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never mind the russians might chnage things...
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