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Colonel Panic
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Icon 1 posted January 22, 2007 17:32      Profile for Colonel Panic         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Big brother is watching, even if he can't read very well.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070121/ap_on_re_us/letter_writer_threat

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Colonel Panic
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Icon 1 posted January 22, 2007 17:43      Profile for Colonel Panic         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Of course, if the FBI is spending all its time chasing 81-year old editorial writers who think authorities should have hanged Osama instead of Saddam, that might explain this:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-01-22-fbi-foley_x.htm

[shake head] [shake head] [shake head] [shake head] [shake head]

Your conservative tax dollars at work!

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JulioC
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Icon 1 posted January 22, 2007 21:48      Profile for JulioC     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Im glad not be be an american taxpayers. At least Brazilīs government gets me free women and booze. [Wink]

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Icon 1 posted January 23, 2007 09:34      Profile for Sxeptomaniac   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:

The inspector general found that the FBI's handling of the matter did not constitute misconduct and that an unidentified FBI supervisory special agent acted within "the range of discretion" when the agent found no apparent evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

However, the e-mails provided enough troubling indications on their face, particularly given the position of trust and authority that Foley held with respect to House pages, that a better practice for the FBI would have been to take at least some follow-up steps with regard to the e-mails," the inspector general's report found.

I would agree with that assessment, overall. From what I've read so far, there still isn't any evidence that Foley was breaking the law. He was behaving quite unethically (as well as foolishly) and deserved to lose his position, but that doesn't always equate to criminal behavior.

On the other end, the job of the FBI is to investigate crime, so if there isn't any evidence of a crime, they logically have no responsibility. As the report said, it probably would have been wise for them to follow up better, but they aren't required to.

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The Famous Druid

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Icon 1 posted January 23, 2007 11:08      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Sxeptomaniac:
From what I've read so far, there still isn't any evidence that Foley was breaking the law. He was behaving quite unethically (as well as foolishly) and deserved to lose his position, but that doesn't always equate to criminal behavior.

From what I've heard, Foley himself was the sponsor of a law specifically designed to catch dirty old men using the internet to procure minors. He would have been an ideal subject for the new laws.

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Icon 1 posted January 23, 2007 12:28      Profile for Sxeptomaniac   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
quote:
Originally posted by Sxeptomaniac:
From what I've read so far, there still isn't any evidence that Foley was breaking the law. He was behaving quite unethically (as well as foolishly) and deserved to lose his position, but that doesn't always equate to criminal behavior.

From what I've heard, Foley himself was the sponsor of a law specifically designed to catch dirty old men using the internet to procure minors. He would have been an ideal subject for the new laws.
Could be. I am hardly an expert on the whole scandal, but I seem to recall that while the text messages were dirty, there is a lack of evidence for intent to do anything, so even under the proposed law the charges might not stick in a courtroom (especially with a good lawyer, which he certainly would have).

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Icon 1 posted January 23, 2007 12:43      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
You might choose your words better in the last sentence...

...or hanging around GC & b3ta may have just put me more in the gutter than others. [Wink]

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Icon 4 posted January 23, 2007 12:55      Profile for Ashitaka     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
...or better yet, don't be afraid, that is how they control you.

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drunkennewfiemidget
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Icon 1 posted January 23, 2007 19:50      Profile for drunkennewfiemidget     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JulioC:
Im glad not be be an american taxpayers. At least Brazilīs government gets me free women and booze. [Wink]

... free women from the government?

*looks into immigrating*

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Icon 1 posted January 23, 2007 20:34      Profile for Sxeptomaniac   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
You might choose your words better in the last sentence...

...or hanging around GC & b3ta may have just put me more in the gutter than others. [Wink]

Guess I've managed to not screw up my head enough yet, because I just don't see it, even after several read-throughs. The only thing I can figure is that maybe it was my use of the word "stick".

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Icon 1 posted January 24, 2007 12:45      Profile for ScholasticSpastic     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I think it's unfortunate that Foley ended up harassing those boys and outing himself. I agree that he behaved inapropriately, but he won't be the first gay man to deal with that kind of internal conflict because he can't reconsile who he is vs. who society says gay people are. That conflict probably even informed his personal crusade against internet predators. He might not have been into the younger men originally- he may have conflated the negative behavior with his gay feelings because it was widely believed that homosexuality is bad within his party.

If we were a society in which people could be happy regardless of whether or not they were gay this kind of thing would cease to be as great an issue. On the other hand:

Yay, we got the Republicans out!!! Now we just need to take out the Democrats! (Down with political parties, up with real issues fielded by real people!!)

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