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Ashitaka

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Icon 2 posted August 14, 2006 11:32      Profile for Ashitaka     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I usually side with the bleeding heart left wing in america, but not today.
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On August 22, foie gras will become banned in the city of Chicago. In protest, above, you see my dinner, foie gras and some french cheeses. There is a reason people have been force feeding birds since the days of ancient egypt.
On a more seroius note, I would like to speak of the cruelty to animals issue at hand. The birds used live "free range" in the production of Foie Gras. Only in the last two weeks are they force fed. The chickens that people in america eat do not live so well. They live thier entire lives in small cages. So if you are going to ban Foie Gras on the grounds of animal cruelty, ban chicken as well. Simple web searches can yield much more information on this issue.

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For those foie gras connoisseurs that notice the bottle of rose wine in the picture, I was not the one shopping for this meal. It was my wife. I properly told her that in the future foie gras should be served with white wine.

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I agree with you that the ban is ridiculous.

I have to add, however, that no matter how good it is, it's still liver. I tend to avoid eating things that are overly involved in the excretory system. [Smile]

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The US needs to take a long, hard look at how livestock is handled these days, anyway. Free range meat is leaner, healthier, often tastier, and less susceptible to disease (Mad Cow, anyone?) than caged livestock. It does great things for the farming industry and ensures that large areas of land remain rural and full of vegetation.

I'll agree with Ashitaka here; the foie gras ban is shortsighted and needless. Before issuing a ban on one specific type of food, the industry needs to look at chicken farming and veal ranching.

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Icon 1 posted August 14, 2006 14:12      Profile for Ashitaka     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by garlicguy:
Picture? What picture?

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4187/1710/400/Foie%20Gras%20Dinner.jpg


I can see the picture just fine. Is there a problem?

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I am not a huge chicken fan. But I love pheasant and grouse -But not their livers [Smile] . The worst part about eating wild game is that you might accidentally chomp down on a piece of shot still stuck in the meat. Other than that, it's delicious.

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When accessing the picture link, I received this error message:

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ERROR

The requested URL could not be retrieved

While trying to retrieve the URL: http://localhost:10141/blogger/4187/1710/400/Foie%20Gras%20Dinner.jpg

The following error was encountered:

Access Denied.
Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at this time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is incorrect.

Your cache administrator is webmaster.

Generated Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:33:23 GMT by photos2.blogger.com (squid)



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For anyone who wants to see the picture:
blogger.com prevents direct links to pictures. Copy the url from this page, then go to www.blogger.com, then paste the URL in the address bar of the blogger.com window and hit enter. That will make it appear as though the referring page is blogger.com and you'll get the picture.

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Or just be like me and block Referers [sic]. [Smile]

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(Re: Steen) I'm not sure at all that that's true. Not that I can be arsed to test it.

The easiest solution is to drag the link to an image to the address bar (Internet Explorer) or the end of the tab bar past all the tabs (Firefox).

I have not tried other browsers but in these two, this trick causes the referrer to be bypassed entirely and the image will open.

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Or you can copy the link, create a new tab or window and paste it in the address field. At least in Safari. I'm just as lazy uilleann as far as testing my theory elsewhere [Cool]

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Icon 1 posted August 14, 2006 19:44      Profile for Rhonwyyn   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Huh, Ugh. That worked.

Now what were observing again?

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GrumpySteen

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Cheese!

No, wait... fois gras.

Although a chupaqueso sounds better just about now.

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Ugh: Yes that works but it's a lot slower. (Trust Rhonwyyn to do it the slow way.)

I was just not sure about what Steen said. I did a quick check using my site's 404 report, and the referrer was not picked up. Pasting in an address over that of an existing page should not generate a referrer since no link was followed. Maybe some browsers do make this mistake (there are some strange issues with referrers), but this is not what referrers mean or are about.

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You're right, it's not referrer logging.

Regardless, as long as blogger.com's server decides (however it does so) that you've just loaded a page from it, the picture server responds with the picture and not a redirect to your local drive, so opening blogger.com and then opening the picture works.

Pasting the URL in a new window does not, however, work for me *shrug*

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Hm, I dragged the URL from the page onto another existing tab on the tab bar (yes you can do this) and that worked fine.

Some sites allegedly ignore referrers as long as you've been to the site and (I presume) picked up a cookie.

It's also possible that you received a cached copy when you pasted in the address.

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quote:
Originally posted by uilleann:
Ugh:(Trust Rhonwyyn to do it the slow way.)

Hey! I resemble that remark!

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Well, just for my information, if I want to put a picture here that I have on my blog, how do I do it. Do I have to go to the trouble of also uploading the picture to anouther website that serves pics (photobucket)? Is there code I could add to my post so people get the referer?

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Yes, use a photo hosting service which specifically permits you to place photos on other sites. (In my case, it's called my domain =)
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www.photobucket.com and www.imageshack.com are free image hosts that you can use. I tend to use Image Shack for images I'd rather not have linked to my domain or too easily traced back to me and it seems to work well [Smile]

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I'm using Firefox, and I see a little blue dash where the picture should be. If I hover carefully, I can right click on it and select view image.

Don't know if that will work for anyone else.

Now, what was the topic again? Oh yeah, liver. Mmmm.

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I am getting really tired of this bollocks.

Here is the picture:
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It's not bollocks, it's liver.

Bollocks go into an entirely different dish [Razz]

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quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
Bollocks go into an entirely different dish [Razz]

That would be this dish:
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MMmmmmmmmMMM!

Like we always say around here, "More garlic, more wine."

By the way, Ash: Nice picture. I'm glad you all got that worked out. [Big Grin]

Edit: Oh yeah! Nearly forgot. Happy 56th to me.  -

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