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Xanthine

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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2010 17:29      Profile for Xanthine     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by snupy:
MRS Xanthine??? Wow! Perhaps someone can fill me in on all the other pertinent news from the oldtimers like me?

Yeah, I can't believe it either. I also graduated, so it's Mrs. Dr. (but not the kind that helps people) Xanthine. And, er, let's see... Well in 2008 my then-boyfriend now-husband and I decided we ust couldn't keep a home running without someone to direct us so we got a cat. So long as everyone remembers who's in charge, it's all good.

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Icon 6 posted May 11, 2010 23:27      Profile for Venture   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hi everyone, Time for the hazing to start. I'm the new guy. I would fall into the geek category of Computer science with an amateur interest in physics. I have an AAS in Computer Engineering Tech. and will be starting a Bachelor of database programming. I regularly have 4 or more computers running in my house for various reasons. I spend most of my time reading, studying, learning but not a great deal of socializing. [Geek]

/*hope to meet some new friends*/

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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2010 23:44      Profile for Ashitaka     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
hi, venture, what time is it in SC when you posted 3am?

Welcome

We have some Com. Sci. geeks here, though we tend, as recently discussed, to consider ourselves geeks, not by what hobbies we ahve, but by how we approach our hobbies.

Later


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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2010 23:45      Profile for Stibbons   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
1072/78 = 13.7 posts/month. Not as low as it could be [Smile]
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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2010 23:58      Profile for Venture   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Ha, yeah getting close to 3am. I don't sleep much. This crazy mush in my head keeps transmitting electric pulses while keeping me awake.

I def agree to your notion of geekory. I have a great deal of respect for the passion that one has for any subject of interest.

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*Wipes the dust off the keyboard*
Well, it's been a while for me, but I still manage to post on the average about 13.7 if I added it right. I go through spells..when I am out of school I post more, also when I am caught up on all my series I missed last semester. Missed all ya'll:)

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I want to take this opportunity to say: Welcome Venture! It seems like you'll fit in around here very well! What do your various computers do?

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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2010 08:35      Profile for Venture   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Well, thank you. My computers, humm.... well.. I am in school for computer science so the purpose of my computers are always changing due to just teaching myself what ever the subject may be. my laptop stays the same mostly and is used for my personal computer. At the moment I am studying for my Linux certification so I have the others with Linux so that I can practice configuration, networking, etc. One day when I am makin the big bucks, my whole house will be computerized. My toaster will have an IP address! hehe

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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2010 08:48      Profile for MacManKrisK     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Venture:
One day when I am makin the big bucks, my whole house will be computerized. My toaster will have an IP address! hehe

IPv4 or IPv6? [Razz]

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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2010 09:11      Profile for Venture   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
ah, still version 4. but the need for version 6 is on the horizon. I don't plan on getting too deep into networking because those guys get yelled at too much. lol I am mostly interested in programming. :-)

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As a programmer, do us all a favor and pay extensive attenton to your user interfaces! I've had to use a lot of programs (especially in the sciences) that were functional but severely limited because of shitty interfaces.

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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2010 14:33      Profile for snupy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Well in 2008 my then-boyfriend now-husband and I decided we ust couldn't keep a home running without someone to direct us so we got a cat. So long as everyone remembers who's in charge, it's all good.

LOLd at that! Sooo true!

Congrats on the marriage, graduation, and the cat!

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quote:
Originally posted by snupy:
I see lots of changes since I've been here. MRS Xanthine??? Wow! Perhaps someone can fill me in on all the other pertinent news from the oldtimers like me?

Well I'm engaged and now have a date: 11/9/10. I'm currently sitting in a hotel in Gaithersburg, MD after an interview that I think went pretty well, so hopefully I'll soon be working in the USA.
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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2010 20:23      Profile for Xanthine     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Good luck littlefish! If you get the job, we can commiserate over the thrills of navigating the NIST bureaucracy. The scary part is, the secretaries absorb 90% of it!

quote:
Originally posted by MacManKrisK:
As a programmer, do us all a favor and pay extensive attenton to your user interfaces! I've had to use a lot of programs (especially in the sciences) that were functional but severely limited because of shitty interfaces.

Were these programs, by any chance, home-brewed? Not that it really matters because even commercial software in the sciences can be a little, uh, how do I put this, counterintuitive to anyone who hasn't been using it since version 0.0 came out, but home-brewed science software belongs in a class all to itself. Part of the problem is most scientists, myself included, don't learn how to program anything in any language until we have to and then we're basically learning as we go. The results are a little bit catastrophic. Seriously. I feel like I've gained too much insight into the psychology of my predecessor on my project just because I've been dealing with her programming for the past year. Being a crappy programmer, and seeing as we code in Labview (which puts a very graphical spin on "spaghetti code) you can only imagine the kludgy mess I stapled onto the disaster I just described. I included many comments because I was getting lost. [crazy]

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Icon 1 posted May 19, 2010 00:04      Profile for Ashitaka     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by littlefish:
so hopefully I'll soon be working in the USA.

I'm sorry, if you get the job i'll be interested ot hear what you think. Most americans I meet think america is the greatest place to work, but having worked abroad I just don't understand that.

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Icon 1 posted May 19, 2010 00:27      Profile for Xanthine     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I've met Europeans who prefer doing science in the US to doing science in their home countries. Usually they cite bureaucracy - apparently, in France, you need special permission from the university to work past 7 pm (this is what a French post-doc told me, but I've been hoping like hell it's b.s. because the alternative is just too insane). I think the funding over here is a bit easier or more generous or something. Oh yeah, and there are jobs here that can lead to something good. That's not necessarily true in Europe, even in the richer parts of Europe.

Also, if you're into really big and exotic toys, there are only so many positions available in so many places. And NIST and the other federal labs have some really cool toys...

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Icon 1 posted May 19, 2010 00:42      Profile for MacManKrisK     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
Were these programs, by any chance, home-brewed?

Not at all! The first that comes to mind is HP Chemstation for the HP4400 ICP-MS, but that one is pretty good compared to the software for the Milestone DMA-80 Direct Mercury Analyzer. I can't forget the Leeman Labs PS1000 ICP-AES software, either, that was F-key driven and operated entirely on macros. The PS1000 software didn't even have built-in data collection, if you lost one of the printouts that spit out of the printer after every run (or, God forbid, the printer jammed!), you had to run the sample(s) again.

All of these softwares required Win 98/Win NT4 or lower because they all operated through kludgy peek and poke directly at the hardware level. That's something Windows 2000 and XP (and up) simply don't allow, and for good reason!

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quote:
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[QB]- apparently, in France, you need special permission from the university to work past 7 pm (this is what a French post-doc told me, but I've been hoping like hell it's b.s. because the alternative is just too insane). QB]

Here to ( for sat. and sun. and after 11 pm), it takes about 20 seconds to send of the email and a few minutes to get a response. I like this because if I need to I can always work on the weekends, and if they ever deny me permission,, and I don't finish my work, I have written proof that they wouldn't let me finish. They can't force me to work overtime. My career just won't advance as quickly, and if I do work overtime here, it quickly becomes less expensive for the company to hire me help.

Though, I have heard that people in research might actually be denied permission to work on sundays bacause it costs the company more.

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Let me put it this way: if I had to ask permission to do my job, there'd be blood. On the walls, on the ceiling, on the floor, all over the lab benches, and not all of it would be mine. I'm salaried. It costs my employer exactly nothing times nothing if I need to put in overtime.

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quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
Let me put it this way: if I had to ask permission to do my job, there'd be blood. On the walls, on the ceiling, on the floor, all over the lab benches, and not all of it would be mine. I'm salaried. It costs my employer exactly nothing times nothing if I need to put in overtime.

I used to work as a salaried chemist in america, 60-70 hour weeks, going into work every day, for no more money than what I would make working 40 hour weeks.

My PhD chemist boss had it great. He worked 40 hours a week, took 2-3 week long vacations in the carribean, and dropped in jaw in wonderment the day I told him I was emigrating.


After six months without a free Saturday I got pissed off, not at the company, I figured any other option I had for work would be the same. That is one of the main reasons I emigrated. That is one of the main reasons I don't like the US, that is why I asked what Littlefish thinks of working in the US.

I am sure for many people america is a great opertunity that you don't get elsewhere. But I also think the lower you go, the more it is not worth it to be a worker in america.


Its not about not loving my country, it will always be my home ( well I think of myself more as a hoosier than an american but still)

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Management's a dice roll. Where I am, everyone works 50+/week and what we do about vaction varies. Usually, though, I'm the one using as much time as they'll let me have to go to some exotic place. And I have always gotten away with it because I am that good.

ETA: it took me about 5.5 years to get tired of no free Saturdays and the increasingly frequent not-free Sunday. So I graduated. [Razz]

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Vacation time...what's that? [Razz]

I actually have a ton of it, but actually /taking it/ is the hard part.
(I'm still working on last year's days...)

Of course, this year, as in others, I simply took the 'it's better to ask forgiveness' tact and simply stated that I'll be out for a good fortnight. [Big Grin]

My phone won't work, and a nice little map with possible locations/countries will be affixed to my monitor. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
I used to work as a salaried chemist in america, 60-70 hour weeks, going into work every day, for no more money than what I would make working 40 hour weeks...

After six months without a free Saturday I got pissed off...

I really wish management understood how damaging to the company that bullsh1te is.

Many years ago I was working for an aussie company that got bought out by an American company, so of course they had to send an American manager over to show us The Right Way.

So, we found ourselves working for a guy who'd spent the last 25 years selling computer systems in Chicago, had minimal understanding of the technology we produced, but he had the right accent, and the company-approved slave-driver attitude.

First thing he did was try to increase the hours/week we worked. We were all given a stern lecture about how slack we all were, and how much harder the guys at head office in Merkinstan worked, and he made a point of noticing when we arrived and left, and watching the little lights on the phone system to see who was talking on the phone too much (almost always to customers). Oh, and we were all issued with keys to the office so we could work weekends. The more he tried to bully us, the more strictly 9-to-5 we all got, and he couldn't fire us, because we were the only people in the world who knew the technology his company had just paid big money for.

But we could quit, and one by one that's what we did. 100% staff turnover in the 18 months before I quit, and 100% again in the 12 months after, then the company folded because there was no-one left who knew how anything worked.

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I don't ask permission either. I just make my plans, inform my boss both verbally and in writing (I've never had a boss who'll remember my departure and return dates), and go. I do make sure I've got my projects arranged so it won't be a disaster for me to leave and as the departure approaches I'll ask my boss if there's anything he wants done before I go. Of course, that doesn't mean something won't come up while I'm gone, but hopefully that's not my problem. It shouldn't be, but sometimes... [Roll Eyes] And, of course, since I favor vacations that take me out of range of anything but a satellite phone or shortwave radio (and those also have limitations), when I'm gone I'm gone...and occasionally in peril of never coming back. But it's good to keep your boss on his or her toes like that. [Razz]

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Venture:
One day when I am makin the big bucks, my whole house will be computerized. My toaster will have an IP address! hehe

IPv4 or IPv6? [Razz]
IPv6 seems to be the way to go for home based sensors and autonomous devices which can be reached from outside. Punching holes in the NAT firewall does not scale at all.
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