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Grummash

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Icon 1 posted August 28, 2005 14:02      Profile for Grummash     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Like the title says, "Hello"

I have posted a couple of times already, and it just occurred to me that I haven't introduced myself. Sorry, poor manners I now realise but I didn't mean to be rude. So here goes with my introduction -

I am not massively geeky, but I am trying to widen my techie knowledge. My Dearly Beloved isn't geeky at all (she loves her iBook, but doesn't care about how the Mac OS magic works.) I have recently strayed from the safety of my flat-panel G4 iMac (10.2.8) but things have not gone well ....I've been trying to install Ubuntu on a 1998 Pentium 1 Thinkpad which refuses to boot from the CD-Rom. I just assumed that I could edit the BIOS, but apparently not!!!
Anyway - what do you need to know about me?
I'm veggie, I look after a house full of cats, I like old hippie music like Caravan and Nick Drake, but mixed up with some Motorhead, Miles Davis, Skatalites, Robyn Hitchcock and Led Zep.(I am probably not painting a picture of a young man, eh?)
So, this is me - hope we can talk some more.
Grummash.

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Hello Grummash [Smile]

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Welcome. The only advice I can really offer is to try not to feed the trolls. Other than that these guys (I'm a relative newbie) seem pretty laid back.

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Grummash

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Icon 1 posted August 28, 2005 15:56      Profile for Grummash     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hi ChildeRolande
Thanks for the Troll advice, I do try to avoid 'em if I can, but every now and then someone I thought was OK turns out to be really stoopid...and its usually me!!!!

Erica Ann - been looking at your website... Lordy, that is one impressive site!

It was nice to say Hi.

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Hey Grummash! Welcome!
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Hi there Grummash,

I'm not new here but I am a newbie to Linux and have been p***ing about installing/trying to install various "easy for newbies" distros (see "special thanks to DNM" thread for more details

If you come from OS X you might find the (K)Ubuntu way of doing things a bit alien - I have just installed Ark and it looks like just the starter Linux I wanted (and the problems I had with it appear to be down to the hardware I was using, not the distro).

All you should need to do to install from CD on your Thinkpad (any distro) is change the bios so that the CD is the first thing checked for a boot - as long as your laptop reaches min spec for the distro obviously.

Oh yes and to make sure the ISO is burned properly...

Good luck

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Hi Grummash...

...and hellooo Erica Ann. [Smile]

Very awesome website, I'd say from a glance. If it wasn't utterly foolish of me, I'd be interested in you purely from the text of it...I mean, you did a textual description of the crossover adapter I have in my bag. [Wink] [Took a straight-through patch cable, chopped off all but ~6", and punched it down T56A on a Leviton jack.]

Then again, I may just be really weary from working 35 hours over the last 3 days (yes, I mean, Fri-Sun).

*ker-plunk*

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Welcome Grummash, I hope we havn't scared you off yet.

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Whoa hey! Nice musical references there. I was at Robyn Hitchcock's acoustic show back during the first Punic war where he played "Across the Universe" and announced coldly, "You know, they could've shot Paul." Some people laughed, some gagged. Nonetheless, I've been a Hitchcock fan since "I Often Dream of Trains."

I also rarely eat flesh. But I still do now and then. Mostly beans, tofu, and mock duck.

But welcome! Enjoy and (as always): POST!!!!!!! [Big Grin]

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Welcome Grummash.

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Howdy Grummash. Welcome to the GC Forums. We appreciate the intro and the polite conduct. There are not a bunch of rules here, rather an eclectic bunch of eggheads.

Stick around, post often and have some fun with us.

Watch out for punfests. They can crop up just about anytime, in any thread. [Big Grin]

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Thanks Grummash and dragonman97 [Smile]
It was just something I started years ago when I was taking notes trying to learn about computers.

Now. it has become my passion! I am moving everything over to girlgeekette.net - I figured that sounded better than aleeya.net for techie things, plus i need a website that i can call a sandbox and play with, post personal stuff on.. which aleeya.net will be reduces too lol.

And dragonman.. you can read my text anytime LOL!

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Welcome to GC, Grummash, stick around, and have some fun!

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Hello Grummash!

Heh... on the advice of Shinaku and Spiderman, I ordered some Ububtu CDs. They arrived a couple of days ago, and I was really excited and looking forward to install them. Then I realised that I can't think of any way of doing it and preserving all my data, even though I have 100GB free on my external HD.

I think I'm going to have to try it out on another computer first.

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Trolls aren't a big issue here. The signal to noise ratio on this board is substantially higher than any other board I've ever been on.

We do have our few trolls, but for the most part, they're few and far between, and easily spotted, and ignored, (although some people take their bait.)

And welcome.

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Sorry about the sudden ADD there.

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Maximile,

I think you'll find that Ubuntu allows you to create a partition in unused space on the drive to install into.

Though a test install on another machine is always a worthwhile saftey net. [thumbsup]

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Hi Serenak
The BIOS problem on the Thinkpad seems to be insurmountable. You get to choose a boot sequence of any four drives from the following selection: 2x floppy, 3x HDD and 1X PCMCIA storage (I've never even seen PCMCIA storage!!!). Booting from CD-ROM is just not an option. I have tried using a SmartBootManager floppy to boot-up, then flip-up the keyboard to put the Thinkpad to sleep, take out the floppy drive and fit the CD-Rom drive and wake up the Thinkpad again. Unfortunately none of the SmartBootManager functions make the CD-Rom drive appear on the list of bootable drives. Anyway, after struggling for several weeks with the ISO I burned myself, the pre-pressed distros have arrived from Ubuntu. I ordered a CD for PowerPC as well as for x86, so at least I can try the Live distro on my Mac.

Hey ewomack - you have heard of Robyn Hitchcock... that means there at least two of us :-)
I have never seen him play, but I have spent most of the last 20 years or so trying to find a replacement copy of 'Globe of Frogs' - I taped over mine by accident - and yes, I did say 'tape', as in, ....uh...tapes! Still, although the UK iTMS only has 'Jewels for Sophia', we did recently get 40 or do Frank Zappa albums - so it ain't all bad.

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quote:
Originally posted by Grummash:
Hi Serenak
The BIOS problem on the Thinkpad seems to be insurmountable. You get to choose a boot sequence of any four drives from the following selection: 2x floppy, 3x HDD and 1X PCMCIA storage (I've never even seen PCMCIA storage!!!).

I have a PCMCIA hard drive. Funny little 500MB fellow. It is a cool shade of Maroon.

You could try to get a hold of either a PCMCIA floppy or even create a seperate partition with the CD data files in there. Boot from floppy and ta-da!

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Does he know our big secret?
Has one of us confessed?
'Bout the wires circuits and motors
Buried in our chest

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quote:
Originally posted by Serenak:
...Ubuntu allows you to create a partition in unused space on the drive to install into...

Yeah, but as far as I can tell, free space in this case means space not taken up by a partition, rather than free space on a partition.

If only I had something to install MacOS from, I wouldn't be so scared of losing the contents of my drive.

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Hello CommanderShroom
Thanks for the suggestions, but I don't know enough to know if it would work.... the Thinkpad has a 3Gb HDD, and Win98 SE currently takes up 958MB, so if I shrunk that partition to the minimum I would just about have 2Gb to play with, but Ubuntu requires 1.8Gb... does this leave me enough swap/temp space - or would I even need some extra temporary space?

I am thinking of trying to persuade someone to let me fit the 3Gb HDD in their PC and install Ubuntu that way.....

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quote:
Originally posted by Grummash:
Hello CommanderShroom
Thanks for the suggestions, but I don't know enough to know if it would work.... the Thinkpad has a 3Gb HDD, and Win98 SE currently takes up 958MB, so if I shrunk that partition to the minimum I would just about have 2Gb to play with, but Ubuntu requires 1.8Gb... does this leave me enough swap/temp space - or would I even need some extra temporary space?

I am thinking of trying to persuade someone to let me fit the 3Gb HDD in their PC and install Ubuntu that way.....

It's all geek to me. [Big Grin]

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Grummash,

Try out Peanut Linux. They have a fairly OK little ISO that covers around 125 MB and doesn't take up much space after install either.

Link: http://www.ibiblio.org/peanut/

Nevermind Grummash.

It looks like Peanut (Now aLinux) has gained few Megs. like 600 of them.

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Does he know our big secret?
Has one of us confessed?
'Bout the wires circuits and motors
Buried in our chest

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Hello Grummash

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Grummash

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Hello Matias

I like your avatar - is there a way to do a 'custom' avatar?
- I know I should RTFM, but it's late and I sometimes I am soooooo lazy!!

CommanderShroom - thanks again for your input. I looked at itty-bitty distros, such as Damn Small Linux and Puppy, with the following reasoning.....the Thinkpad BIOS says it willl boot from PCMCIA...the Thinkpad has an add-on PCMCIA card which provides two USB 2.0 ports......Puppy or DSL will fit on an USB flash-drive......ergo you would hope that Linux on a flash-drive should be bootable.....not so! you see why I despair???

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Grummash, custom avs are yours to use when you upgrade your membership to SuperFan status. [Smile]

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