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Spoongirl
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GRRRRRRR!! (well, that's to be expected.)
i know most other stuff on here is kinda serious (note the 'kinda'), but i want to grr about my school.
big huge enormous pressure to do well in exams!! argh!!
i am, let me explain, rather mentally challenged when it comes to certain subjects. I shine in English, Art, Music, Religion, etc. subjects i can be expressive in, ya know? but then comes maths ... and science (which i think is a kind of religion anyway, but maybe that'll be another topic)... and languages ... and physical education, brr... (cold shiver of fear)
i've just done me mocks, and i got 4 A's, 3 B's, a D and an E... Did i get praise for the A's? Did i hell!?
No, your friend of the spoony clan was shouted at in front of her friends, embarressed and shamed for failing at subjects that i don't care about, will never use, will never take me anywhere for the type of career i want...
what's the school system like everywhere else? just as stressing? just as sh!t?


love from your miserable friend in the biscuit tin, Spoongirl [Frown]

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Pretty much the same as far as I can remember, hnn I do remember once being shouted at infront of the whole class not because I had dont badly in anything (aced every test that year) but because my handwritting is scruffy, which the 12 year old me thought was a bit harsh [Smile]

Lesson to be learned? They just want you to get the best results that you can, they just probably don't realise they arn't going about it the best way.

You can either ignore them (good) or try and put in some extra effort, but in the end the results are for you and nobody else so its up to you not them.

Just out of interest if you are doing GCSEs (another thread of yours hinted you were english or welsh), then is an E a fail now? I kinda block out memories of secondary school but I could've sworn that was a very low pass. Ahwell.

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Yeah - was it Oscar Wilde who said "you shouldn't let school interfere with your education"? Yep - that's the way of the world, I'm afraid - disapproval travels at roughly twice the speed of praise. If it's any consolation, I sucked at my "o-levels" - but look at me now - I'm a perfectly contented slacker. You know what you should do? Don't get sad - get even! Burn down your school!

(...ok... I didn't neccessarily mean that...)

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Usual here....
Still no operating budget for this school year, voting for next year's today, (we had 16 votes for this years, each time fail!) we have E. Coli in the water at the jr. high, we have a sr. high that is sinking in a swamp, the teachers are old and stupid, the young ones are ok, except for bio, and it's easy to extort all of them (except for my 7th grade science teacher, damn him!)... I mean, can you believe it? I got an A+ in gym, and I do nothing! (The key is making it obvious i'm on the ski team [Smile] )

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Spungo, it was Twain, and it was actually, "I never let my schooling get in the way of my education."

He also said, "In the first place, God made idiots; this was for practice; then he made school boards."

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Doing mock GCSEs at this time of year? Anyway your results seem pretty good, so you must be bright. Even though you want to drop them after GCSE, you should try to get the best grade you can from Science, Maths, and Languages. First because you are clever so you can, though it will be hard work. Second because they are all useful in whatever you do with your life later. Third because you want to avoid having to study them for an extra year, should you have to retake them, which you would if you failed Maths. And lastly because I say so!

Can you tell that my children have been doing GCSEs?

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quote:
subjects that i don't care about, will never use, will never take me anywhere for the type of career i want...
So, what kind of career *do* you want?
Just asking...

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quote:
Originally posted by ilovemydualg4:
we have a sr. high that is sinking in a swamp

Is this the first one or the second one? [Wink]
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I miss High School........
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quote:
Originally posted by Slurpy:
Spungo, it was Twain, and it was actually, "I never let my schooling get in the way of my education."

Yes, but Oscar Wilde did say that nothing should tamper with natural ignorance
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fortunately, in England at any rate, education has no effect whatsoever
I love The Importance of Being Earnest. Brilliant play, absolutely brilliant.

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Originally posted by MacintoshGeek:
I miss High School........

Are you NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I HATED high school; there is no way you could pay me to go back there- ever;
college wasnt so bad cause I found other geeks who were a lot like me...

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quote:
Originally posted by Callipygous:
Doing mock GCSEs at this time of year?

I expect she means the real thing at this time of year - as far as I'm aware, everyone in the country must do their GCSE's at the same time. I did very very well in my GCSE's... my English paper was one of the Top 5 best in the country, in fact [blush] ... sorry, don't mean to be boastful and obnoxious, I just point it out because I really wish I hadn't... the pressure for you to succeed becomes much greater if you do really well at GCSE. At least, it did for me. But I burnt myself out and have been slacking for the past two years. My parents fully expect me to get A's in my A-Levels (which start on Monday [Eek!] ), but I don't know whether I have it in me [ohwell]

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Gang,

Can someone explain what GCSEs and A levels are? Sorry to have to ask such an ethnocentric question. I just want to understand the context of the discussion.

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oop, sorry, didn't mean to be incomprehensible...

GCSE's are exams taken at the age of 16...they are mandatory, and you take them in about nine or ten subjects: English, Maths, some Science and at least one modern language are required, but you can pick and choose whatever else you want to do.

If you decide to stay on at school after 16, you narrow down the number of subjects you study to 4 or 5, and take exams in these at the end of the year after that. These exams are AS Levels. An AS-Level qualification counts as half an A-Level.

In the year after that (final year of school), you drop one or two more subjects, and study about three subjects at A2 Level. Personally, I'm doing Ancient Greek, Latin, and English Lit, as an example. At the end of this year you do your A2 exams, and thus receive a full A-Level qualification, which is a combination of the grades you received at AS and at A2.

All results for GCSE and A-Level come in the form of letter grades. GCSE's go from A* - F, whereas A-Levels go from A - E or D (can't remember). Universities make you an offer of a place based on the grades you are predicted to get. Basically, they say: "you've been predicted to get AAA grades. You must be a great student. So we'll let you in even if you get BCC grades." Or something to that effect, varying depending on how good, bad you are.

Hope that helps, or at the least, doesn't further confuse the issue [Big Grin]

sky

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quote:
Originally posted by skylar:
oop, sorry, didn't mean to be incomprehensible...

GCSE's are exams taken at the age of 16...they are mandatory, and you take them in about nine or ten subjects: English, Maths, some Science and at least one modern language are required, but you can pick and choose whatever else you want to do.

If you decide to stay on at school after 16, you narrow down the number of subjects you study to 4 or 5, and take exams in these at the end of the year after that. These exams are AS Levels. An AS-Level qualification counts as half an A-Level.

In the year after that (final year of school), you drop one or two more subjects, and study about three subjects at A2 Level. Personally, I'm doing Ancient Greek, Latin, and English Lit, as an example. At the end of this year you do your A2 exams, and thus receive a full A-Level qualification, which is a combination of the grades you received at AS and at A2.

All results for GCSE and A-Level come in the form of letter grades. GCSE's go from A* - F, whereas A-Levels go from A - E or D (can't remember). Universities make you an offer of a place based on the grades you are predicted to get. Basically, they say: "you've been predicted to get AAA grades. You must be a great student. So we'll let you in even if you get BCC grades." Or something to that effect, varying depending on how good, bad you are.

Hope that helps, or at the least, doesn't further confuse the issue [Big Grin]

sky

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quote:
Originally posted by addiew:
I HATED high school; there is no way you could pay me to go back there- ever;
college wasnt so bad cause I found other geeks who were a lot like me...

I dunno, in hish school I was pretty naive. I was unable to accept my own geek-ness, but handled the rejection ok (imagine being a geek in a down-town Seattle highschool during the Nirvana/PJ revolution).

Then I went to College, played hockey there and joined a frat. Few geeks in said frat. Now that I am free of my school bonds, I get to do what I want. I work for a small company so even if all I ever did was cruise the Internet and play video games I would still be the geekiest guy in the office. As is, they think I am a freak (I am the only programmer in the company).

I actually enjoy it, but the stupid questions are grating on me. My personal thought is that:
"Now is the best time for it to be, for if it were any other time I would think about how good it was then.

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We have the HSC in oz, and for 10-12 you have 12 units from which you can allocate your classes, and 2 units of english is compolsery.

2 units is the standard, but you can do 3 and 4 units if your going to specialise.

Aka my science teacher did 2 units of english, 4 units of physics, 2 units of chemistry and biology and 2 units of economics. You can do extra units if you do after or before school classes.

Most of the dropouts in my school were in year 11, i think because they didn't expect the vast increase of work which goes from 10 to 11 and 12. [Frown]

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quote:
Originally posted by GeekAvenger:
We have the HSC in oz, and for 10-12 you have 12 units from which you can allocate your classes, and 2 units of english is compolsery.

2 units is the standard, but you can do 3 and 4 units if your going to specialise.

Aka my science teacher did 2 units of english, 4 units of physics, 2 units of chemistry and biology and 2 units of economics. You can do extra units if you do after or before school classes.

Most of the dropouts in my school were in year 11, i think because they didn't expect the vast increase of work which goes from 10 to 11 and 12. [Frown]

Hehe, reminding me of my own HSC experience here. Having no life, I did 4 unit maths, 3 unit economics, 2 unit physics, 2 unit chemistry, 2 unit english (the 4 unit maths was after school). I would have done 3 unit english too, but the after school classes clashed with 4 unit maths. Looking back, I should have not bothered with one of the two science subjects (I mainly did them to get a good score to get into Uni with). If I'd had less workload in total, I might have been able to focus better on the science subject I stuck with. If only the damn school had a computing subject at the time ... ah well [Smile]
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Okay, here we go...

In reply to spungo - my old school burned down, not 2 months before i ran away to dorset... [evil]

In reply to hey-U I would like to be a psychologist (yeah, i know i'll need science, but i still got a B in it, so I'm okay), or a Clothes designer (punk, rock, geek sh!t), or one of the 'talent' careers eg: artist, author, actress (except i'm fairly average looking, and people in the magickal box in my living room are so much more beautiful than me...) etc

In reply to skylar, no i do actually mean mock Gcse's. You see, in my school, we have mock's in the first year of GCSE's, then we get 'em again in the second year, and then we all come back after study leave and do the Real Thing. Is this not normal?

Is this too much? I really think I'm starting to crack (even more)... Hints? Tips? Anything to help me stay CALM!!???

I already to yoga and meditate and all that jazz, so anything new would be appreciated.

Love from the mentally unstable one in the biscuit tin, Spoongirl [Wink]

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Well I had properly balanced A-levels.
Physics, Chemistry, Biology and AS electronics. Of course, Sky has oversimplified the exam system in this fine country, leaving out S-levels, scottish highers and so on.

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quote:
Originally posted by addiew:
I HATED high school; there is no way you could pay me to go back there- ever;
college wasnt so bad cause I found other geeks who were a lot like me...

I hated high school itself, but the high school years and immediately after high school (I guess freshman year counts) were definitely the happiest years of my life. Anyone else concur?
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My GSCE's are balanced!! I might hate the subjects, but i'm getting decent grades in them!! The E and the D were from French and German,
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subjects that i don't care about, will never use, will never take me anywhere for the type of career i want...

Tell me it gets better!! TELL ME IT GETS BETTER!!??!!

Oh bother...

Love from the biscuit tin, Spoongirl;)

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Spoony you are at the beginning of the exam sausage machine. Your mind will be be minced and pulverised for at least the next 5 years, and it gets harder at each stage. It is a marathon not a sprint, and as Sky said, doing well at a GCSE is no guarantee that you will find the same interest in that subject at a higher level and it is possible to burn out. So do your best, but be gentle on yourself at the same time. Make sure there is room for fun in your life, as well as work.

Sky the very best luck to you. Don't beat yourself up that you should have worked harder, at your age it is equally important that you become a rounded socialised human being, and the emotional understanding that comes with this maturity has a bearing on English Lit at the very least. Anyway for you rehearsals are over and it's performance now. So go out and sock it to 'em. You are a great girl and deserve the very best in life.

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quote:
Originally posted by Slurpy:
I hated high school itself, but the high school years and immediately after high school (I guess freshman year counts) were definitely the happiest years of my life. Anyone else concur?

The years immediately after high school were/are great, but the actual years of high school were quite probably the worst years of my life, not the best. I had friends attempting suicide, another friend getting death threats, personal stress over my "relationship" with my biological father, rumors spread about me, and a couple of teachers from Hell.

It wasn't all bad, there were some wonderful people, some great classes and excellent teachers, beautiful plays and concerts, some fun stuff happening at rallys, and my first job. I know I learned a lot socially and academically in high school, and it really wasn't tht bad, but I would never go back!

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Looking back HS, for me was great. I was a pothead, was in a Heavy Metal band (it was the 80's people)AIDS was all but unheard of, I had a *ahem* a small pharmaceutical business happening. I never had to study to keep my grades up. I was never with out a girlfriend, or 2. [Big Grin] Good times....The 'college years' were more trying. Actually had to work AND go to school the social life suffered *sheesh*

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