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GrumpySteen

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Icon 1 posted January 11, 2002 12:59      Profile for GrumpySteen     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
How about a routine that automatically sets a topic as closed when it's opened after a reasonably long amount of time (perhaps 30 or 45 days) has passed since the last post was made to it. If someone just -has- to make a related comment, they can start a new topic and provide a URL referencing the older, closed topic.


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Icon 1 posted January 11, 2002 13:31      Profile for LifetimeTrekker     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hear, hear!
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Icon 1 posted January 11, 2002 13:53      Profile for Evilbunny   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah! Great idea!
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Icon 1 posted January 11, 2002 16:01      Profile for quantumfluff     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It should not be that hard. We need a tool which spiders the forums, opens each topic and finds the last post date. If it is old enough, it invokes the "close topic" page, passing snaggy's name and password.

Question. Does "close topic" remove it from visibility, or just lock out new posts. I think we want the latter.


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Icon 14 posted January 11, 2002 16:11      Profile for DoctorWho     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
An excellent idea Steen.

Closing the topic won't render it invisible, just prevent new posts.

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Icon 5 posted January 11, 2002 16:27      Profile for Snaggy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just wondering... what is so bad about having a topic open forever?

I think it far more likely a post will get a reply if it isn't closed and replies are good, even if late, aren't they?


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GrumpySteen

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Icon 1 posted January 11, 2002 20:20      Profile for GrumpySteen     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I can't speak for anyone else, obviously, but seeing ancient topics dredged up annoys me when it's done too frequently, particularly when the post that brings it back up isn't really meaningful or worth reading in my opinion (no examples provided, but it's not hard to find them of late). As for why it annoys me... it just feels like a breach of etiquette somehow, though I can't specifically say why. It's like when Angelina Jolie said she loved her brother on that awards show. There's nothing wrong with saying that, exactly, but something in the way she said it just creeped everyone right the heck out.

Anyway, it's just an idea I had that would eliminate a small thing that annoys me. If it's never implemented, I obviously won't go off in a huff or stop posting or anything (my post count alone is proof of that). I just thought I'd toss it out and see what everyone else thinks of it.


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Icon 1 posted January 11, 2002 23:42      Profile for Bregalad     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm all for having old topics closed automatically. I only registered here a little while ago so almost all the threads are new to me, but I have tried to avoid old ones even if they sound really interesting. I feel that if somebody has something significant to add to an old discussion they should start a new topic for it.
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Icon 1 posted January 12, 2002 12:39            Edit/Delete Post 
Why lock the thread to prevent new posts in the first place? It's very
frustratring when you come across a topic of intrest, and want to reply to
it only to find that you've been gagged :\


And how can bringing up an old subject be so annoying as to warrant
locking old threads?


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Icon 1 posted January 12, 2002 21:36      Profile for GrumpySteen     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Let me offer one example of how bringing up old topics becomes annoying.

A newbie comes to the forums. Rather than scanning through all the active topics in all the forums, the newbie proceeds to read farther and farther back in the topics in, say, the Your News section, posting occasional witty and deep responses such as "ha ha" to numerous topics. A few hours later, all the regulars show up and we see the top 15 topics are all old threads with no meaningful new posts in them, but unless we remember the topic title, we wind up opening them and skimming them to find out that we just had our time wasted. (it's useful to note that I'm exaggerating what has happened in the past to make a point, not telling the facts of a real example)

Having to generate a new topic and reference the older, closed topic with a link would vastly reduce the tendancy for people to post non-meaningful messages to an ancient thread because they're unlikely to take the time to make the link if they're just going to post "ha ha". Also, even if they do just that, the new page loads quickly, we see nothing of interest without having to scan a lot of text and much less of our time has been wasted.


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Icon 1 posted January 16, 2002 08:21      Profile for Tau Zero     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm not sure I support this idea.

Suppose I had some time to go back and re-open the orbital mechanics thread.  I'd like to put new material in context, instead of being on the other side of a pointer (and with no ability to put a pointer to the new thread at the end of the old thread).  Would I be able to do that?

Something like a nag-screen between an old topic and the posting screen would probably be a better idea.  I'm sure that lots of these "revival" postings are due to newbies not looking at the dates on things (it's all new to them) and not having a really good idea just what's going on.  Until gentler methods have been tried, I think the more heavy-handed methods should be left on the shelf.


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I also find it very annoying, I think closed topics would be a nice solution... Tau, I see what you're saying, but I really don't think the post loses it's effectiveness if you start a new thread on the subject and link to the old one. Its even better in some ways, instead of having to drudge through the 3 pages of posts we read several months ago, the regulars can focus on the newer posts to the subject, and anyone looking for context can read the older, closed thread.

In addition maybe we could create a netiquette page for the forums? Citing such things as single word(or <cringe> punctuation mark...) postings as being a no-no, and placing emphasis on the all important rule, "Lurk before you leap."

I like Steen's solution, it's much better than mine which I came very close to implimenting several times: "Just let this thread die already!!!"

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Icon 1 posted January 16, 2002 16:39      Profile for Ti   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 

quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
As for why it annoys me... it just feels like a breach of etiquette somehow, though I can't specifically say why

It's like desktop cleanliness, a dirty desktop drives me nuts. And i'm not talking about the wooden "Real" Desktop, I could care less about how messy those are... But Icons strewn all over the place, or even any icons at all drive me nuts. I keep my desktop as clean as possible, call me wierd but I know other people do it to ;-P

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Icon 1 posted January 24, 2002 09:54      Profile for supaboy     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by Angry Rooster:
In addition maybe we could create a netiquette page for the forums? Citing such things as single word(or <cringe> punctuation mark...) postings as being a no-no, and placing emphasis on the all important rule, "Lurk before you leap."

On a few occasions I have posted messages with no actual text content. Mostly, it's to express my sympathy or condolences to someone who's just shared a loss (a pet or other family member for instance) with the community, where I post a sad face because it sums up my feelings pretty well without having to resort to words. I'm no Shakespeare, so me using words to express how I feel is kludgey at best.


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Icon 1 posted January 24, 2002 12:26      Profile for Angry Rooster   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That is definitely an exception supa... I'm referring so posts such as:

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Followed by another post by the same individual:

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Icon 14 posted January 29, 2002 07:59      Profile for webby   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
good idea .. there should be time limit for every topic .. older topics just keep space regular geeks loose interest in them after some time ..as new topics take there place


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I am agree with idea , as normally regular geeks loose interest in older topics because newer one take there place .. there should be time period for every topic lets say 3 months ....

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Icon 1 posted January 29, 2002 18:57      Profile for theJacob     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm for it. Old topics are just that...they belong in the arcives. If there are no new additions for a lenthy amount of time, consider the topic closed by mutal agreement. Make it offical if you have to.

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sigh, case in point ^^^^^
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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2002 11:57      Profile for quantumfluff     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I got it! Just set the default 'view pages from last N days' to 5 rather than 30 (? is it?). Then newbies will see a smaller list of active threads, and there will be less inclination to post to dead ones.
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Icon 1 posted March 06, 2002 06:25      Profile for Charisma   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, good idea. I don't even read too many posts with the little flame folder icon. People need to start new posts instead of adding to old ones. Good idea!

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i think we should keep them open for when we get bored. sometimes when nothing new is happening they are nice to go and re-open.
Nayt

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A wise man speaks because he has something to say; a fool, because he has to say something.
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quote:
Originally posted by Tau Zero:
A wise man speaks because he has something to say; a fool, because he has to say something.

i wish you'd take your own advice

some of us actually like nayt's posts

flame, flame
or maybe i should say lame, lame...

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