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addiew
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Icon 1 posted August 14, 2003 16:35      Profile for addiew   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
geez sirens for that long would annoy me

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quote:
Originally posted by addiew:
geez sirens for that long would annoy me

It is annoying. At first I thought I was hearing it on the news. Why aren't you on IRC?
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Update:
NECN reports that the Canadian prime minister says that the problem was caused by a lightning strike at a power plant in the Niagra falls area

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strange- we never lost power here in Boston.
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It was stopped before it affected others.
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Okay, this black out has seriously hampered my ability to talk to dman. Cellphone repeaters need power ya know!!

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I think it's funny that a Canadian power station dies and more US cities are blacked out than Canadian.


Did I say funny? I meant hilarious! [Razz]

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I've been wondering, Why dont more people have backup power sources? Is there some problem with generators, and batteries, and bikes. No, I think the public takes electricity for granted. I know I sure don't.

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Cap'n Vic

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quote:
Originally posted by DrPepper:
I think it's funny that a Canadian power station dies and more US cities are blacked out than Canadian.


Did I say funny? I meant hilarious! [Razz]

Blame Canada Blame Canada

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Icon 1 posted August 14, 2003 23:36      Profile for DrPepper     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Indeed...I guess the plant might actually be on the US side. Either way.
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quote:
Originally posted by DrPepper:
I think it's funny that a Canadian power station dies and more US cities are blacked out than Canadian.


Did I say funny? I meant hilarious! [Razz]

Send me a postcard from Guantanamo [Wink]
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I have power again!!!!!!!!!!!

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Icon 1 posted August 15, 2003 00:10      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Okay, I want some more food, and to take a shower (one of these times that having a well [& consequently a pump] sucks]), but it feels good to be back to my Linux laptop, and online. Had to tweak my Apache config first - something went a little awry. Tomorrow's going to be 'interesting.' I also wonder if I'm going to get called into work right about now to bring the servers back up. I'm thinking our junior full-timer might get that responsibility.

/me tends to another computer back here, leaving this one alone for the night.

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quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
*Imagining dman curled up in the fetal position on the floor blubbering*

Actually he's probably just running around cursing. I just hope that he's got someone in there to help him out.
Yeah, as can be expected, Xanthine knows me just a bit better :-P. Actually, we made some productive use of the downtime and moved a server into the new rack we just got (Yeah, it's true, I've got a nice rack). I was actually browsing the Forums for the last few minutes my UPS held out, as there wasn't much of anything else to do, and then when it started to squeal constantly, I hibernated my machine.

What I am a bit sad about is the uptime of my server. As of June 10th:
# uptime
23:26:26 up 159 days, 1:02, 3 users, load average: 1.99, 1.97, 1.91

Math scratchpad
10 jun: 159+
20 days = 179 +
31 days = 210 +
14 days = 224 days

Yeah, my server was up for 224 days, running Knoppix! I guess I'll finally break down and acutally install a distro on my new HD (the old one with Mandrake developed problems on it - and I never got around to reinstalling - booted to Knoppix to migrate files) [Big Grin] . I can also take this time to install my USB2/Firewire adapter card - I admit that I wanted to let my uptime go as long as possible, and I did...I was hoping to get to a year, though - but my UPS just can't hold out for 11 hours :-/.

Edit/P.S.
Sorry for triple posting here, but I guess I'm just happy to have computing access again - after a whole 1/2 day of withdrawal [Wink] .
And another thing - my laptop did hold through until I came home, and I was definitely happy to see the following about it:
$ cat uptime-14aug03
18:16:25 up 83 days, 15:27, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

Now I'm going to go to sleep for <=3 hours, before I must go into work...

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Dman-please check your pm's. I am in the UK now and don't have AIM or your email info. Jess never made it out of New york last night, and her phones aren't working. We're hoping she finds a way to get here and would like some info on the situation there.
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Stuff is slowly coming back on line according to many news sites. But they don't expect to be back up to 100% until monday [Frown] Then the airlines will have to begin clearing the backlogs. I know Toronto ain't flying today, causing ripple effect and stranding people everywhere. Not to sure if NYC airports are moving yet.

If only y'all left a day earlier [Frown]

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NYC airports opened last night, but many flights got pushed back - by a day even. I know Xanthine's sister isn't going to be flying until today, I'm pretty sure.

snupy: [replied]

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addiew
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man that all sucks for everyone. when we had a bad windstorm a few years ago in OR we were without power for a week- so I feel everyones pain

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quote:
Originally posted by addiew:
man that all sucks for everyone. when we had a bad windstorm a few years ago in OR we were without power for a week- so I feel everyones pain

Sorry GMx, but she was practically askign for it [Smile]
Just about a year ago we had a huge windstorm too. Lines went down _all over_
So we were out of power for 3 days. There were downed electrical wires in my yard. they were stripped, and crossed. they were down over water. I called United Illuminating, and they said "yah yah we'll look into it".

So the whole while, we have a propane generator. Well it didn't every work.

Back on track, 3 days after we lost power, they powered the grid back up. Well, of course we got huge sparks in our yard, and the transformer exploded. Great job idiots. another 3 days later they came and reseated teh wired, cut down the tree that was holding them there, and fixed the transformer.

What idiots, if they fixed the wires before they powered back up the grid they wouldn't have made the fire hazzard

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Been gone for a while and will probably go away again after this, but I know some people here care about what it was like in NYC.

I took the ferry into Manhattan last night and walked from South Ferry to Central Park and back again (10 miles).

There were 10,000 cops on the street. Really -- that's the number the mayor's office gives, and I saw 2-3 cops on every street corner. They are going into massive cop overtime for this. That is not just $$$, it also means less cops for everything else.

No looters, no violent-looking crowds. Which is fortunate because I had to call 911 at one point and got put on hold for 5 minutes.

A lot more fire engines than normal (even adjusting for the fact that most civilian traffic was off the streets).

From the POV of a native, the hardest part about this is that the subways weren't running at all last night, and are STILL DOWN. About 40% of NYC adults don't even drive at all! Without the subways we are hurting big time. The buses are running but they are overloaded.

There were 350,000 people on trains at the moment that the power went off. Think about that. All 350,000 of them were evacuated safely.

Lots of people in clusters inside the lobbies of office buildings. I saw one building with a whole floor full of people camped out there.

The lack of traffic lights didn't hurt as much as I thought it would.

Cell phone service was crushed/overloaded all over Manhattan. I could not make a call anywhere north of Wall Street. Newspaper reports said that cell towers are provisioned for 20% load and they were getting 80% load, 4 times their peak capacity. If you were trying to reach someone on a cell phone in Manhattan, and you couldn't, it's not because they are dead -- it's because people can't get through.

Lots of people lying on the grass in Union Square listening to the tribal drummers, looking at the sky. Mars was plainly visible, even some stars.

Overall a mood of "sleeping" rather than "dead" (post 911). The city that never sleeps took a nap. It was a trip to look at the Empire State Building with almost no lights on. It was not as interesting to see Times Square with no lights -- I've seen it with no people, which was a lot more interesting.

The airports were bollixed big time. Between the anti-terrorism measures and the gigantic blackout they just gave it up.

I got my power back at 04:20 AM local time. I haven't followed the news about which parts of Manhattan are still dark and which airlines are backed up how much.

The 14th street substation event was probably just part of the shutdown, not a substation catching fire.

Overall: after 9/11, we took this very much in stride.

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Good to see the whole region is handling it so well. Personally, I would have flipped out if I was trapped in a subway car.

There was some minor looting by a few idiots in Ottawa last night, as well a couple guys robbed a jewelery store, but when they exited the store, they were beaten by some citizens and held until police arrived. I love vigilantism (sp?)!!

Oh, and there are 140 miners trapped underground in nothern Ontario but they have backups supply fresh air and water, so they are okay.

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Alien Investor... wow thanks for the first hand account... very cool to get a real perspective on this.
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Yes, very cool to here from someone there. I was watching some a-hole host on CNN last night trying desperatly to hype the whole incident up, He was saying stuff like:

"How do we know for sure this isn't terrorism?"

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"Maybe it is that Microsoft virus causing this..."

Gimmie a break

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We're just outside the NYC border. My wife's partners all came over for some wine and cheese until they could figure out what to do. Then the three who live in Manhattan drove back home before it got really dark. Tonight we have theatre tickets, so we're driving in. I don't expect huge problems, since many commuters who couldn't get transportation in probably took a long weekend today.

My disappointment is that in spite of the blackout, the moon was so full I still had trouble stargazing. Even worse, the telescope tripod was in storage at my parent's house and I couldn't get the table I was using stable enough to get a good view of Mars. Such a wasted opportunity. [Frown]

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I had to take the day off work today.
Because I couldn't get there.
Because I have no car, now.
Because it got into a face-to-face fight with another car.
Because I was trying to make a left turn out of the gas station (I'd normally never do something like that -- always right turns!)
Because I was trying to go back the way I had just come from, so I could get gasoline.
Because the gas station was closed down.
Because the city of Avon STILL HAD NO GOD DAMNED ELECTRICITY at 07:30 this morning!
(Despite the fact that Lorain had power back by 21:00 Thursday night.)

Other than that, everything's fine. [Roll Eyes]

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