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dragonman97

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Icon 1 posted May 14, 2002 11:47      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Wow! Imagine my surprise when I went to apple.com to just look up some info for someone, and my jaw dropped seeing a 1U Apple server. The bullet points:
-1U design
-Dual 1GHz G4s
-2MB DDR L3 cache per chip
-2GB DDR SDRAM
-480 GB storage capacity
-Dual Gigabit Ethernet
*Mac OS X Server * unlimited license *
...
I may be a PC fan, sitting in front of 5 Dell Poweredges and surrounded by 8 Optiplexes, but I still think this is very cool. With UNIX at its core this is great. I noticed little print on the side mentioning that these boxen (which can be delightfully clustered) can be administrated over serial line console. This makes me suspect that Apple is getting even more PC-like, in a very good way. I knew that /. had to be ahead of me on this (since I stumbled on it by dumb luck), so here is their story.


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+Andrew
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Icon 1 posted May 14, 2002 16:13      Profile for +Andrew   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
can be administrated over serial line console. This makes me suspect that Apple is getting even more PC-like, in a very good way.

That's not really PC-like, as both PC and Mac servers are following in the footsteps of UNIX servers and others that used serial consoles as the primary (or only) means of interaction since before PCs and Macs existed or were used as servers.


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dragonman97

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Icon 1 posted May 14, 2002 18:00      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by +Andrew:
That's not really PC-like, as both PC and Mac servers are following in the footsteps of UNIX servers and others that used serial consoles as the primary (or only) means of interaction since before PCs and Macs existed or were used as servers.


Okay, perhaps I shouldn't have worded it quite like I did. My point is that this is closer to a standard that other networking products use, and I like it. However, the hardware is getting to be quite similar to that of PCs, with the exception of certain higher quality components (and PPC).

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Icon 1 posted May 15, 2002 10:45      Profile for greycat   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
In case you overlooked it, they're also using ATA/100 disks instead of SCSI....
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Icon 6 posted May 16, 2002 08:48      Profile for GraphicPower.com   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by greycat:
In case you overlooked it, they're also using ATA/100 disks instead of SCSI....

That is only the base configuration. Ultra160 SCSI or fiberchannel can be added, though they won't work with the internal drive modules.

Apple will have a RAID to add to the XServer in a few months. It will be 4U, I think, and hold 14 drive modules.

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That is a sweet-looking box. I wouldn't mind having one to run Electric Minds on; the Venice software it uses relies on Apache, Tomcat, Java, and MySQL, and, AFAIK, all those would run on OS X just fine.

Does anyone know if the internal drives on the Xserve can be used in a RAID-1 (mirrored) configuration? That's about the only thing our existing Linux server can do that I haven't seen on their Web pages.


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Originally posted by Erbo:Does anyone know if the internal drives on the Xserve can be used in a RAID-1 (mirrored) configuration? That's about the only thing our existing Linux server can do that I haven't seen on their Web pages.

Yes, It will do software disk mirroring, but Mac OS X Server disk mirroring SUCKS. By Fall, SoftRAID might have a software RAID that will include RAID level 5. It won't suck. For now, DO NOT use software disk mirroring or striping on a Mac OS X Server! if you need RAID, go with an external hardware RAID 5 enclosure.

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