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Icon 12 posted September 20, 2003 11:17      Profile for sconzey     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
One question: If you were cloned, would you like you?

Second question: If you were cloned but the gender altered, would you date you? (For the sake of arguments, ignore considerations of genetics and redundant genes)

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I think I would like me, but wouldn't date me. I guess the clone would be effected by environmental changes and would be bring other life experiences to the relationship. On the other hand, it would be a little too much like dating your brother.... ugh
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quote:
Originally posted by sconzey:
Second question: If you were cloned but the gender altered, would you date you?

Or in other words would you date some one who is complementary(same strenghs and weaknesses) or supplimentary(their strenghts are your weaknesses and vice-versa)??
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quote:
Originally posted by sconzey:

Second question: If you were cloned but the gender altered, would you date you?

That depends, where's my wife during all this?

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I don't need to be cloned. I already have an evil twin. [evil]
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If you're talking about the way cloning works in the real world, it would of course depend mostly on how the clone was raised. And considering the age difference, dating wouldn't really work. Then again, if I start now I can have a nice young thing to keep me company when I'm in my forties. Ahem. Anyway...

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quote:
Originally posted by sconzey:
If you were cloned but the gender altered, would you date you?

/me, still trying to rid myself of the mental image of a female me.
Far too much like a 'Priscilla - Queen of the Desert' flashback.
The horror, the horror !

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quote:
If you were cloned, would you like you?
 
That's more a matter of personality which, I think, is affected more by environment than genetics. However, assuming the same personality and experiences, then yes.
 
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If you were cloned but the gender altered, would you date you?
 
Assuming equivalent personality and experiences, again yes. If I had the time and money that is, which I don't.

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quote:
Originally posted by sconzey:
One question: If you were cloned, would you like you?

I assume you're assuming that this clone would also have all your emmories and personality. If so, I'm not sure. It would be an odd expereince. I do know that I coould look myself in the eye, but like myself? Not sure.
If the clone is just a person who looks like me, but has none of my quirks, traits, etc., I'm not sure. I'd have to talk to her first. [Smile]

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Second question: If you were cloned but the gender altered, would you date you? (For the sake of arguments, ignore considerations of genetics and redundant genes)
Um, no. That would be like dating a sibling.

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We cannot assume, as others have pointed out, that the clone would be anything like you personality wise... The thing about it would be that my clone would be significantly younger than me (as we don't have any way to control aging) and thus I think I would find my clone very annoying... Reminding me constantly of my past faults as s/he reaches the ages that I made my silliest mistakes.

If there were a complete clone (personality and all) who was identical in every way *except* gender, I would probably not want to spend any time with them and probably would not date them. We would have no reason to talk, we'd have no points to argue (and I like debating) and so neither of us would grow or benifit from eachother's company.

If the she-clone wasn't identical personality wise there wasn't any gentic considerations, and we grew up apart so I was unaware of they were a clone... It would depend on all things that any relationships depend.

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quote:
Originally posted by GameMaster:
I would probably not want to spend any time with them and probably would not date them.

I should think not! [Razz]

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The big question in this remains unanswered, whould Spungo date Dolly the sheep?

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
The big question in this remains unanswered, whould Spungo date Dolly the sheep?

I don't think he's into necrophilia as well, since Dolly is an ex sheep. [Eek!]

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quote:
Originally posted by csk:
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
The big question in this remains unanswered, whould Spungo date Dolly the sheep?

I don't think he's into necrophilia as well, since Dolly is an ex sheep. [Eek!]
He must be getting boring in his old age.

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Having a clone would be bad. I'ld get drunk with myself and goad myself into some stupid prank that would get the both of me killed. It's far safer for only one of me to be around.
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Icon 1 posted September 23, 2003 03:11      Profile for spungo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
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Second question: If you were cloned but the gender altered, would you date you? (For the sake of arguments, ignore considerations of genetics and redundant genes)
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I'm pretty sure I'd end up taking advantage of myself, and then not call for weeks and eventually tear up all my self-portraits and go home in the middle of a rainy night, drunk and abusive and scream up at my closed and unlit bedroom window, and die of pneumonia a few days later, consumed with bitterness and gin.

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So, in other words, a typical Saturday night for ya? [Wink] (except for the dying part)

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Uhhh, I wasn't posing this as a scientific question, so don't look too deep into my statements because they are not scientifically founded.

When I said a clone, I was meaning an exact copy, I only used the word clone because thats the word that we use in English. I did not infer anything about the method gone about to acheive this clone.

Uhhh, I think I would hate my clone. Definitely, i wouldn't get on with them at all...

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quote:
#1: If you were cloned, would you like you?
At the first contact, I wouldn't like my duplicate, I would find him quite annoying. Once I get to know him better (assuming , I would start seeing him as an "enemy", from a competitive point of view. We both would mostly end up killing ourselves.

I also was wondering what would occur if one of us (my duplicate or myself) finds out about their "copy" without the other being aware ...

#2: the sex-inverted duplicate ...

We both would feel attracted at first contact (not physically, but emotionally), but it would not last that much. We would become bored of ourselves.

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quote:
Originally posted by sconzey:
One question: If you were cloned, would you like you?

Second question: If you were cloned but the gender altered, would you date you? (For the sake of arguments, ignore considerations of genetics and redundant genes)

1.)If I were cloned, not sure. Remembering back to when I was a kid, I was pretty snotty and rotten (I think I still am, just more refined), so no. But then guessing how my love life is going, in total conjunction with Karma, I'll probably end up with a clone of myself. Oh the horror.....

2.)Heck no, not unless we have the same interests and are of 2 different families (needless to say it can't/would-not be my clone). That'd be like fookin' my sister.

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quote:
Originally posted by sconzey:
Second question: If you were cloned but the gender altered, would you date you?

Are you kidding? It's pretty sad, though, when your only chance of action is to wait for human cloning to become viable.

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