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fs

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Icon 1 posted April 25, 2008 02:30      Profile for fs   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
When I was a teenager, I never hung out at the mall, and the internet has become the mall. And I hate it for the same reasons I hated the mall. It's full of ignorant, annoying people that I would rather avoid hanging around being ignorant and annoying and everybody wants to sell you useless crap you don't need. (Seriously, "buy my ebook" sites should be lined up and shot.)

I miss back when there was no MySpace or YouTube and people had to work a bit to get online, on the signal to noise ratio was so much better.

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Sorry to hear you feel that way.

What you need is something to cheer you up, maybe a beanie or a t-shirt, or perhaps a button?

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Awww, you sadden me fs:( You need to embrace youtube, I would send you a linky, but am a little afraid of the reprecussions! [Eek!]

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fs wrote:
I miss back when there was no MySpace or YouTube and people had to work a bit to get online, on the signal to noise ratio was so much better.

No it wasn't, you just didn't look at the places that had the crappiest noise to signal ratio.

Before there was YouTube, there was Facebook
Before there was FaceBook, there was MySpace
Before there was MySpace, there was Blogger
Before there was Blogger, there was LiveJournal
Before there was LiveJournal, there was Orkut
Before there was Orkut, there was Friendster
Before there was Friendster, there was Yahoo Groups
Before there was Yahoo Groups, there was GeoCities
Before there was GeoCities, there was Angelfire
Before there was Angelfire, there was Tripod
Before there was Tripod, there was AOL.
Before there was AOL, there was CompuServe
Before there was CompuServe... well, there wasn't an internet.

As long as the internet has existed, there has -always- been some place where the stupidest people congregated and made noise. Today is no different. You should really be glad that MySpace and YouTube exist... if they didn't, all those people would have more time to add noise to every site place you visit.

The internet != YouTube and MySpace.

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The difference now is that everyone is talking about social this, social that, social everything. You can't start any sort of site without building social networking into it.

Back when AOL was dominant, at least the rest of the net went on doing their own thing. The current "social" trend has become so pervasive that you simply cannot avoid it.

I always thought of it as "the extroverts inheriting the web", but "the Internet becoming a mall" is pretty good too [Smile]

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What is a social network?

A social network is nothing more than group of people who, for some reason, want to interact with one another. They do this by creating a profile, keeping contact lists and interacting with others.

In the late 70s and early 80's, MUDs allowed people to create characters, view other people's characters, add friends to a list, join groups, talk to other players in-game and post to forums discussing the game.

All the things that make up social networking, really. Social networking is just the latest buzzword for things people have been doing all along.

Imagine that.

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It's easy enough to avoid MySpace, I have yet to join and have no plans on ever joining it. If you send me to your MySpace page and it requires a membership to view it, I won't be viewing it!

YouTube, I only view 1 or 2 videos a month. A few years ago I told friends & family not to send me stupid jokes & links to videos.

These places are as easy to avoid as the mall.

But then isn't joining an online community such as Geek Culture like hanging out at the mall?

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yep, I kinda know what you mean. Myself, I figure it's the fact I need to take a week off from the computer and go somewhere real.

But Druid is right, you really need one of our new beanies to cheer you up. PM your address asap, this is an emergency!

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quote:
Originally posted by Bibo:
But then isn't joining an online community such as Geek Culture like hanging out at the mall?

You mean there may be a Tim Horton's here somewhere? [Applause]

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Nope, but if you forward this link to 10 friends a Tim Hortons coupon for $50 will pop-up on your screen!

quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
quote:
Originally posted by Bibo:
But then isn't joining an online community such as Geek Culture like hanging out at the mall?

You mean there may be a Tim Horton's here somewhere? [Applause]

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quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
quote:
Originally posted by Bibo:
But then isn't joining an online community such as Geek Culture like hanging out at the mall?

You mean there may be a Tim Horton's here somewhere? [Applause]
Even better: Orange Julius.

Do they still have those

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I'm craving for a Papaya Hut.
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Cap'N Vic, they surprisingly do still have them, there is one in the mall near my house. So, if your ever in the neighborhood... [Big Grin]

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geekygoddess wrote:
Cap'N Vic, they surprisingly do still have them, there is one in the mall near my house. So, if your ever in the neighborhood... [Big Grin]

... and all I get is potentially mediocre mexican food? *stares*

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How do you know I don't have plans for a stop at the mall for a quikie desert at O.J.? [Big Grin]

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Well, I can't really say I know whether or n...

wait

Did you just offer to involve me in a quickie? [Big Grin]

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Sick bastard!!! [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
Even better: Orange Julius.

Do they still have those

They do, sorta. I think they got bought a few years ago, and if you ask for an egg nowdays they give you that really strange look...

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fs: Welcome to the September that never ended. :/

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quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
yep, I kinda know what you mean. Myself, I figure it's the fact I need to take a week off from the computer and go somewhere real.

Yeah, that's a good point. Or maybe do something real, like repaint the bedroom and start an apartment-garden.

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But Druid is right, you really need one of our new beanies to cheer you up. PM your address asap, this is an emergency!

I already have GC, though! [Smile] It's like the anti-MySpace. Though I have perused the beanie selection extensively, and should maswan ever happen to ask what a good christmas/valentines/birthday present for a girlfriend would be, if you would be so kind as to direct him to the pink beanie and suggest a propeller...

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_____________________________ fs Years back when I was researching an interest, it was easy go to the local lib. ask a few question and find what I needed. Now with all of these social networks I can put in a search term and find 150K of answers that are not related to the question. I also have found many items by serendipity, It just is so frusterating to get a poop pot of commercial answers that you know are not products at some vendor, that paid the search engine company to include on each page.

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quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
Now with all of these social networks I can put in a search term and find 150K of answers that are not related to the question. I also have found many items by serendipity, It just is so frusterating to get a poop pot of commercial answers that you know are not products at some vendor, that paid the search engine company to include on each page.

Yeah, that. And everyone taking Wikipedia as gospel. On Wikipedia the other day, I learned that Ray is gay. I don't know who Ray is or what that had to do with assorted Swedish demographics I was looking up, but it was in Wikipedia so it must be true.

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Can I add to the above my great disdain for people posting HiJackThis logs online?

Nowadays, any search of a legitimate or questionable running task will turn up oodles of thoroughly useless HJT logs.

TrendMicro seems to have acquired it, and in the newer release, I believe there's a 'check these items' feature that should give useful background information...but I strongly doubt anyone uses it. Even if people use this feature, the damage to the Web has already been done.

Correction - I just visited the official FAQ:
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What can I do with a HijackThis log file?

Once you have generated a log you can analyze the results to identify what settings have been made by malware. The web offers a wealth of resources outside of TrendSecure that can help you interpret your log file results and help you manually clean your system of malware.

A common practice is for a novice user to generate a log file and provide the log file generated on their PC to a forum where malware experts provide information how to clean up the infection.

Forum software should have blacklists set up to prohibit the posting of HJT logs. 99% of the time they sit on pages, unread or ignored, and simply pollute SERPs. Furthermore, "novices" should not use HJT, as it is a very dangerous tool -- I use it with extreme caution, and I'm not a novice!

/grumbles

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This is a more optimistic view of the online future.

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I've long thought that apps like Flickr, bloggers, etc. just do what crappy free hosting used to do. At least they're not as ugly as those were.

In the March 2008 issue of Creativity magazine, some advertising and design experts talk about the future. When asked what technologies have been over-rated, they said [i]exactly[]/i what I thought they would: Second Life, Facebook, MySpace.

They mentioned that SL isn't an appropriate venue for advertisers due to the narrow audience, that people hate ads on MySpace, and Facebook has been rendered useless by its own "applications." So apparently advertisers don't like them any more. And if advertisers don't care, there goes the worthwhile revenue.

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