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Jim in the Forest
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Icon 1 posted March 26, 2007 17:42      Profile for Jim in the Forest     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
REDMOND, Wash., March 26, 2007 — Initial sales figures from Microsoft show its new operating system Windows Vista made a splash in its debut. In the first month of Windows Vista’s general availability, sales exceeded 20 million licenses, more than doubling the initial pace of sales for its predecessor, Windows XP. These initial figures reflect the broad interest in the security and usability enhancements in Windows Vista.
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From the article:

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By comparison, Windows XP, Vista's predecessor, sold 17 million copies in the two months following its 2001 launch, Microsoft said.

"It's a stronger than expected start," Bill Mannion, a director of product marketing for Windows, said in an interview.

But given that the personal computer market has nearly doubled since XP launched, Vista sales "probably should be more," said Michael Silver, vice president of research at Gartner, a technology research group.

The complete article can be found here.

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Oh, and the discount program as reported on ars
Why discount software with such spectacular sales?

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OMG ..... Sign me up to jump on that band wagon ASAP !!! [Eek!]

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Icon 1 posted March 27, 2007 04:08      Profile for littlefish   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Although it apparently has difficulties in deleting, copying and moving files.

How MS manage to screw people over so much and *still* be the no. 1 operating system manufacturer is beyond me.

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quote:
Littlefish wrote:
How MS manage to screw people over so much and *still* be the no. 1 operating system manufacturer is beyond me.

Let's face it, most users don't know thier OS from a hole in the ground.
I know a business owner who has 3 pages of written instructions on how to upload
to ftp for his store website and he consults them every time he has to do it.
OSX or Linux wouldn't make any diference for him.

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D*mn! And just when we thought we clearcut that "Forest"...

Anyway, someone (sorry, I forgot who it was!) on IRC pointed out this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtp5gNhBZgo

I found it rather amusing. :-)

I'm still a converted Mac user at home. I use Windows only because I am forced to (at work). We're still running Win2K until they come up with a way to safely migrate to Vista (I think there were still some issues and we would need to upgrade our machines.). That kinda says something, doesn't it?

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JIF Do you have Vista yet? If so what do you like about it, and what if anything do you find disappointing? I'm not being sarcastic, it would be interesting to know the views of a hard core MS fan to this important release, if that is you want a discussion rather than just to provoke.

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And there are more stupid people in this world than intelligent people. Coincidence? I don't think so. [Razz]
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Icon 1 posted March 27, 2007 10:14      Profile for littlefish   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Oh, and apparently (and unsurprisingly), MS are gaming the numbers.
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You guys are just feeding the troll - he doesn't read and rarely responds.

Just a bot.

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awww! but some of us are having fun! he doesn't seem to bite! It seems to be mostly bark! [Big Grin]
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Well, he is in the forest, after all, so you would expect a lot of bark.

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And if he uses Active Directory he can be stuck in the trees [Wink]

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Oh, I'm sure MMKK would have a few choice words to say about Active Directories!! [Big Grin] [Razz]
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By the way, littlefish, how much stock should we place in an article written and edited by people who seem to be grammar-challenged? [Wink]
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License sales are good public relations fodder, but they're real world merits stop there.

Also, the article seems to be throwing around a lot of "well gosh, it just can't be so!!!!" without any solid facts backing up the assertions. Now I'm not saying Vista is going gangbusters as Microsoft says, nor that it's necessarily a good OS. But that PC Mag piece doesn't convince me that Microsoft is fudging the numbers, either. At least not in the first part before the link to the "full" analysis, which I can't be bothered to follow at the moment.

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It's a fair point ugh, but hard numbers are easy to come by.

For example, 100% of the respondents in a recent survey think Vista isn't worth the money. (But I just asked the person next to me)

The MS numbers are not false, but they are misrepresented.

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A colleague of mine is running Vista Ultimate on an iMac CD...

He was/is a hardcore MS user - but was so impressed by the iMac the returned his brand new PC and got his money back (it had had at least 2 hardware "glitches" inside the first 6 weeks) and bought an iMac. Sure he promptly BootCamped it to be an XP Box, now Vista, but at least he liked the idea of being able to also have access to the Mac OS if he wanted... He is now using Vista Ultimate as the primary boot and running XP in Parallels from OS X if he requires that...

So far he seems pretty impressed with Vista and has not suffered any problems that he has related to me other than the iSight doesn't currently work under Vista... He is very glad he bought a Mac though becuase now he can do Mac and Vista and XP at will.

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quote:
Originally posted by Serenak:
A colleague of mine is running Vista Ultimate on an iMac CD...

He was/is a hardcore MS user - but was so impressed by the iMac the returned his brand new PC and got his money back (it had had at least 2 hardware "glitches" inside the first 6 weeks) and bought an iMac. Sure he promptly BootCamped it to be an XP Box, now Vista, but at least he liked the idea of being able to also have access to the Mac OS if he wanted... He is now using Vista Ultimate as the primary boot and running XP in Parallels from OS X if he requires that...

So far he seems pretty impressed with Vista and has not suffered any problems that he has related to me other than the iSight doesn't currently work under Vista... He is very glad he bought a Mac though becuase now he can do Mac and Vista and XP at will.

That's actually what I recommend to most PC guys these days - PCs are about freedom, right? So either go 'real' and Build From Scratch, or STFU and buy a nice Mac that you can run everything on.

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quote:
Originally posted by Serenak:
A colleague of mine is running Vista Ultimate on an iMac CD...

He was/is a hardcore MS user - but was so impressed by the iMac the returned his brand new PC and got his money back (it had had at least 2 hardware "glitches" inside the first 6 weeks) and bought an iMac. Sure he promptly BootCamped it to be an XP Box, now Vista, but at least he liked the idea of being able to also have access to the Mac OS if he wanted... He is now using Vista Ultimate as the primary boot and running XP in Parallels from OS X if he requires that...

So far he seems pretty impressed with Vista and has not suffered any problems that he has related to me other than the iSight doesn't currently work under Vista... He is very glad he bought a Mac though becuase now he can do Mac and Vista and XP at will.

An article making a very similar point.

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quote:
Originally posted by Serenak:
So far he seems pretty impressed with Vista and has not suffered any problems that he has related to me other than the iSight doesn't currently work under Vista... He is very glad he bought a Mac though becuase now he can do Mac and Vista and XP at will.

I have been testing Vista for the last couple of weeks here. It is a decent system. It holds your hand a bit much for my tastes, but I can see where that could be useful for the technically challenged. I help out an elderly lady that just did the upgrade to Vista and she got up to speed on it very quickly. So I have to give kudos for that.

I still prefer my Debian partition over the Win partition, though that is a personal choice.

But MacD, have you worked through the EULA for OSX? It makes Windows seem almost lax by comparison. I know some people say that it is the right of the underdog, but I unfortunately disagree. It would be nice if they would allow the possibility to run OSX under parallels or VM Ware. But as of right now, they are legally bound not to allow it.

So I guess shackled is all a matter of perception.

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20 million licences is unimpressive if you realise most home/business users get Windows after buying a PC and MS has forced the number by shiping most of brand PCs with Vista.

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The EULA is pretty simple - OSX is only allowed on Apple branded hardware.

However, Apple *themselves* recommends SheepShaver for running older Apple OSs on Intel...

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