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calenril
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Icon 1 posted February 02, 2007 07:03      Profile for calenril     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Sadly, in my neighborhood shoes hanging from a wire mean "open for business" -- people driving in and out to make deals all night long. When we see the shoes, we call our Neighborhood Stabilization Officer and she gets them taken down. It slows business a bit, and given enough calls the house is declared a nuisance property and pressure is brought on the owner. It works.
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weird! I've never heard of that before, is it a common signal do you think?
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Icon 1 posted February 02, 2007 08:51      Profile for SpazGirl   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
From what I gather, that's also what they mean in the greater Detriot area... so yeah, it's apparently quite common.

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Icon 1 posted February 02, 2007 10:23      Profile for garlicguy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
The only wires we have out here are the telegraph lines.

We don't have shoes - only boots.

If you see boots hanging, run - there's been at least one lynching and the vigilantes just might not be done yet.

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Icon 1 posted February 02, 2007 10:40      Profile for ScholasticSpastic     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Isn't Strange Fruit the title of a song about racism? Buddy Holly? You should listen to it if you haven't heard it- it's disturbing (I like disturbing songs).

More on topic- are you saying I should turn off my red porch light and throw some shoes over a wire? 'Cuz I've noticed that business is a little slow lately...

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Billie Holiday [Wink]

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Icon 1 posted February 02, 2007 12:35      Profile for calenril     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by ScholasticSpastic:
[QB] Isn't Strange Fruit the title of a song about racism? Buddy Holly? ...

The title was not accidental.

And, yes, a red light might help bring in more business, too, but perhaps of a different kind. ;-)
On the other hand, we have prostitution, too, but they do not use red lights. The clothes are all they need for advertisement.

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Come on down to Orange Blossom Trail in Central Orlando. We show you good time. [Eek!]

I didn't know about the shoes thing either. But then in my neighborhood most of the wires are buried. The only thing I have to worry about is the neighbors cutting the cable by accident (which happened to me two weeks ago). [ohwell]

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Icon 1 posted February 02, 2007 18:43      Profile for ScholasticSpastic     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Grummash:
Billie Holiday

Thanks! That would have been really embarrassing if I didn't also do it with contemporary artists.

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quote:
Originally posted by calenril:
quote:
Originally posted by ScholasticSpastic:
[QB] Isn't Strange Fruit the title of a song about racism? Buddy Holly? ...

The title was not accidental.

And, yes, a red light might help bring in more business, too, but perhaps of a different kind. ;-)
On the other hand, we have prostitution, too, but they do not use red lights. The clothes are all they need for advertisement.

yeah thats right - don't try and steal the red light from Amsterdam !!!! [devil wand] [devil wand]

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Someone tried to tell me once that those shoes hanging over wires mark the spot homeless people died. Truth or fiction?

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quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
Someone tried to tell me once that those shoes hanging over wires mark the spot homeless people died. Truth or fiction?

off topic,

Did you know the word gullible is not in the dictionary?

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Boots on wires where I live (home not college), being a military area (and this happens at any military place) means someone got out of the military and doesnt want/need them anymore.

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Hi All________________Since it has become common knowledge that sneakers on wires is a symbol of drug activity don't you think that the Druggies will come up with a new one?

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I'm surprised that the movie "Wag the Dog" hasn't come up in this topic.

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quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
Hi All________________Since it has become common knowledge that sneakers on wires is a symbol of drug activity don't you think that the Druggies will come up with a new one?

They stick with what works. The worst that happens is an arrest, but seldom jail time, and they soon are back in business.

Their customers come in cars, some from the 'burbs. The driver just has to stop somewhere near and wait. In 5-10 minutes, someone comes out to the passenger or driver side. The window goes down, the seller leans in and they talk. Often the stereo just loud enough to mask conversation. If the seller knows the customer or feels good about this new one, he gets in the car. They sit and talk for a while. If the seller sat in back I could see him reach out and hand something to the front and come back with a wad of cash in hand. They sit or drive off while they do their drugs, sometimes the seller stayed with them. This is when they start making noise, with the talk and stereo disturbing the sleep of children and adults. Sometimes it turns into a party. Sometimes it turns into a street fight.

In daylight, the trades are more subtle, with the handoff being done quickly with a complex handshake (to hide the actual exchange).

Homeowners may be calling 911 to report it, giving the address of the house the seller came from. Enough calls make the house a "nuisance home" and the dealers eventually get kicked out. It is really sad when the dealer is a teenager and his family gets kicked out with him. A neighbor boy asked me once, "How many times have you been in jail?" Usually the house is not family, though, but criminals using an abandoned house. They are what E. E. 'Doc' Smith would call "Zwilniks".

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This is all well and good, but what does a pair of pants on a wire mean?

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For the Pony Express guys it would be, " A whole lotta chafin' goin' on".

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Sadly,

This shoes on a wire thing appears to be true. I have heard this for years. A google search seems to confirm either the truth or a powerful urban legend. My impression when I first saw the teaser was that it was regarding drug dealing.

While we're on the subject, the HBO show "The Wire" is an excellent show regarding drug dealing, but interestingly enough there are no shoes in this show hanging from any wires.

What you will see is some great writing and some exceptionally talented young actors.

Colonel Panic

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quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
weird! I've never heard of that before, is it a common signal do you think?

I've heard the same about here, so I'm suspecting it's either common or a very well travelled urban legend...

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There are shoes hanging on the overhead power lines running on the other side of my street. I was wondering what they meant for while, so I looked it up. What do you know, wiki has some info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_flinging

Not entirely helpful, but still somewhat interesting.

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Where I live, if you see a pair of shoes over the telephone wires it just means that someone made sure that the littlest kid on the street doesn't have shoes anymore! [Wink]

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Don't forget about the shoe tree either. One of the (only) exciting things to see on Hwy 50 in Nevada.
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