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spungo
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Icon 1 posted January 25, 2007 17:51      Profile for spungo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
I personally use whatever I need to get the job done, which is why I'm equally incompetent with *nix, Windows, and OSX.

You just took the verbals right out of my orifice. Yay for incompetence! I'm such a geek fraud - I thought *nix was a basketball team. [Wink]

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Icon 1 posted January 25, 2007 18:02      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
GMx________________________You have got to be right why else would this guy call us fanboy when we pointed out that there are many systems. HE HAS GOT TO BE A PAID SHILL.

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Icon 1 posted January 25, 2007 18:04      Profile for BooBooKitty     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
FEED THE TROLL TO THE LEMINGS!!!
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Icon 1 posted January 25, 2007 18:28      Profile for AgingAmigaoid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by BooBooKitty:
FEED THE TROLL TO THE LEMINGS!!!

Gawd... Lemmings is such a great Amiga game. You know I heard that much of the world's infrastructure was built by lemmings...
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uilleann
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Icon 1 posted January 25, 2007 19:53            Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Lemmings =)

Lemmings runs on PCs too, of course, but the music on that version is nowhere near as beautiful as it is on the Amiga.

Lemmings for the Amiga had a considerable hold on my soul, the music was just that achingly beautiful, and the game so adorable. This was before I had a computer of my own and Lemmings was one of the programs that drew me in the most.

It would be another three years before I got one that could actually play Lemmings (a PC, not an Amiga) and, hm ... PC sound is a bit crap isn't it? Lower resolution graphics, too ... (No idea what funky resolution Amiga Lemmings runs at, but my 8-bit micro ran many games at a higher resolution than many DOS games...)

I owe the Amiga a lot -- it got me hooked.

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mv Jim in the Forest /dev/null

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Icon 1 posted January 26, 2007 01:48      Profile for Swiss Mercenary     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Having just seen Windoze OSX err... I mean Vista I wonder who copies off who ^^ [Razz]

Waiting for the OSX I can run on a Dell Laptop.

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quote:
Originally posted by GMx:
He's probably a PR flak for M$.

Unlikely, you generally don't impress your potential audience by insulting them personally as fanboys, and their intelligence with arguments that the facts just do not support. I would love JIF to explain what it is about contextual menus in Windows that is so much better and more useful than the MacOSX implementation rather than a mere question of taste. To be quite honest I only wish there was something in Vista that was genuinely much better than what we have in OSX, as there is nothing like a great rival OS to spur development on. On the other hand the first iterations of OSX (up to 10.2) were fairly useless, so maybe we'll have something good in a year or two.

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Icon 1 posted January 26, 2007 05:38      Profile for Mac D     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by BooBooKitty:
FEED THE TROLL TO THE LEMINGS!!!

Why not Prarie dogs?

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quote:
Originally posted by Mac D:
quote:
Originally posted by BooBooKitty:
FEED THE TROLL TO THE LEMINGS!!!

Why not Prarie dogs?
Because...
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Mac D
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quote:
Originally posted by BooBooKitty:
quote:
Originally posted by Mac D:
quote:
Originally posted by BooBooKitty:
FEED THE TROLL TO THE LEMINGS!!!

Why not Prarie dogs?
Because...
Your right, Prarie dogs would probably "puck" him up.

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TheMoMan
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Hi All__________________________For someone to be calling us all fanboys he must be one for Billy maybe he has something going?

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quote:
Originally posted by macmcseboy:
mv Jim in the Forest /dev/null

mv: cannot stat `Jim': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `in': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `the': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `Forest': No such file or directory

[Razz]

Back to the OP: I question what kind of 'Professional Engineer' he is. I also wonder why he's such a coward (wanted to use a different word, decided not to) as to abandon his threads halfway through. The answer? He's a troll.

I propose that we dispose of such individuals as follows:

code:
 
DELETE FROM Members
WHERE GroupOpinion = 'troll';



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I'm a little puzzled as to what sort of schema you're proposing where 'GroupOpinion' is a single column of the members table. (I'll let you off on the whole varchar bit by presuming it's an enum. Don't say I never give anyone the benefit of the doubt...) Surely you'd want a separate table for this, with member number and voter member number as the primary key?
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/me files a complaint with APEG [evil]

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quote:
Originally posted by uilleann:
I'm a little puzzled as to what sort of schema you're proposing where 'GroupOpinion' is a single column of the members table. (I'll let you off on the whole varchar bit by presuming it's an enum. Don't say I never give anyone the benefit of the doubt...) Surely you'd want a separate table for this, with member number and voter member number as the primary key?

No.

If I really had to put thought into it, I'd design my database very simply. Since 'GroupOpinion' is relevant only to individual members, I figured it'd make sense to put it in the 'Members' table. I never really thought about recording who voted for what, though that capability IS present in UBB.

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OK, let's assume you really did mean an enum. And table Members has a column GroupOpinion. Let's say Boo comes along. Person one records 'troll' for her GroupOpinion column. Another person records 'cool' ... Wait, you just overwrote the last value.

A single field per member will only take the last value you wrote to it. Thus, you need to keep track of what all the various opinions have been in order to get a consensus. "GroupOpinion" itself is not a valid concept as you cannot guarantee 100% agreement. "95% troll" for example would work but that's all you can hope for out of this idea.

You could store a single numeric value in a single cell and use weighted moving average to handle series of values. For example, if the field holds -1 (the default), store the new value. Otherwise, a new value would go in as, say, the mean average of 80% of the old value plus 20% of the new value. A horrible hack but it will go in that precious single cell ;-)

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uilleann:
You could store a single numeric value in a single cell and use weighted moving average to handle series of values. For example, if the field holds -1 (the default), store the new value. Otherwise, a new value would go in as, say, the mean average of 80% of the old value plus 20% of the new value. A horrible hack but it will go in that precious single cell ;-)

Which, incidentally, is how the current RMS value of a continuous waveform is generated in vibration monitoring...
< /tangent >

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uilleann
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Either it's a better approach than I thought, or your system sucks :P

Nah, your advantage I suppose is that you really do care a lot more for the current values with disregard for the past, which is rather different to what is needed for gathering a consensus.

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After reading Jim's posts, I've had to ask myself, "Whoa, this is what happens when somebody uses the Windows OS?"

I'm sure glad I haven't tried it?

Colonel Panic

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quote:
Originally posted by Colonel Panic:
"Whoa, this is what happens when somebody uses the Windows OS?"

No, but this is...

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I spent about 10 years with DOS and Windows before finally making the switch (in 2000) for good. But I have been around Macs longer than that. Probably about as long as with Windows.

quote:
Originally posted by AgingAmigaoid:
[QUOTE]]Besides, you and the Mac fan-boys all know that the Amiga is still superior! [devil wand]

[Applause] Amiga forever! Hurrah!

I first learned to use computers on an Amiga and for several years was the computer I used to do audio/video on (an A2000). And *sniff* I have a fond place in my heart for the Amiga. [Happytears] It was ahead of its time.

Any current Amiga fan will know this..."Boing!"

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quote:
Originally posted by Tominfla:
Any current Amiga fan will know this..."Boing!"

Vista's new presentation manager is Avalon and what do you think Avalon's first 3D Demo was?

The Amigaoids are all around you! [Cool]

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agingAmigoids++;

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quote:
Originally posted by AgingAmigaoid:
quote:
Originally posted by Tominfla:
Any current Amiga fan will know this..."Boing!"

Vista's new presentation manager is Avalon and what do you think Avalon's first 3D Demo was?

The Amigaoids are all around you! [Cool]

Seriously? I did something similar using POV-ray in under 10 minutes. Maybe I'm missing something, but I think that's a pretty crappy demo.
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