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Ashitaka

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Icon 1 posted September 10, 2013 19:26      Profile for Ashitaka     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
This has been making its rounds on the internets of late.



guy saw lincoln shot interview TV

This really got me thinking. His story is really cool but I looked deeper to his wikipedia page and then the link at the bottom to the newspaper article form the 50's that got the attention of the TV program.

TH evideo or wikipedia doesn't say but the original newspaper article does.

Why was he there, Wel his parents to him to Washington because they had to speak to a lawyer about what was going to happen to thier slaves now that the war was over. ( Becaue his family had a bunch of slaves, and they were not yet free, because the emancipation proclamation only freed slaves in the confederate and not the three slave states fighting for the Union north.)

How Did I not learn this in School ; Was I incompetent, do other people know this???


Then it got me thinking, ok he was pretty old in the 50s, and not too many people who had slaves lived into the 1950s, but many lived until the 1920s, so my grandparents probably met and talked ot people inthe 1920's who had slaves ( this is more likely if you are from the soutehrn US)

Sure my grandparents were young then and the ex slave owners old but that is just mind blowing, or?

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Honestly, my mind was blown by the disgusting tobacco branding of that show.

People are bothered by blog posts that plug things, and products being quietly promoted on TV shows and in movies today, but wow was that blatant!

I think the whole bit about being a witness to Lincoln's assassination was just a novel bit to fill up a show in '56 promoting tobacco - he was far too young to contribute anything about the occasion and a bit too weak to comment in any serious way. (I might even characterize it as cruel to him to feature him like they did.)

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Ash, this reminds me of Mark Twain (Samuel Clemons) He wrote a short story about Gen. Washington’s man servant.

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
Honestly, my mind was blown by the disgusting tobacco branding of that show.

I think the whole bit about being a witness to Lincoln's assassination was just a novel bit to fill up a show in '56 promoting tobacco - he was far too young to contribute anything about the occasion and a bit too weak to comment in any serious way. (I might even characterize it as cruel to him to feature him like they did.)

after Watchign the movie goodnight and good luck I watched a couple show from edward R Murrow frmo the 50's. The advertising in I have a secret was not especially bad for the 50's.

And as for it being cruel to him, he died a wekk later fom injuries resulting in the fall due to traveling to the TV show.

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dragonman97 wrote:
Honestly, my mind was blown by the disgusting tobacco branding of that show.

You think that's bad? How about cigarette ads incorporated into children's cartoons?

There's a reason that the tobacco industry wound up in so much trouble and it's not just because the product is unhealthy.

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Flinstones was not for children, it was primetime. AND no, I am not old enough to rmember that!

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quote:
Originally posted by GrumpySteen:
dragonman97 wrote:
Honestly, my mind was blown by the disgusting tobacco branding of that show.

You think that's bad? How about cigarette ads incorporated into children's cartoons?

There's a reason that the tobacco industry wound up in so much trouble and it's not just because the product is unhealthy.

Yikes...I had no idea. o_O

Ash...while I don't think it was a 'Saturday morning cartoon,' I think it probably fell more into the realm of The Simpsons. The latter is primetime and can be appreciated on /many/ levels. However, it most certainly targets kids as one audience. I'd be surprised if the Flintstones wasn't similar.

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I am not an expert in this, but from what I remember of shows like the Flintstones and Jetsons is that they were definitely considered prime-time staples. So Mom and Dad were smoking while the kids were in the room. Probably with the kids going to grab a fresh pack in the middle of a commercial break, or at least that was one of things that occurred when I was a kid. I don't find it healthy, but I guess I can't see it as wrong either. It just... was.

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TheMoMan fires up the WayBackMachine. Back in the Early Fifties the TV stations had a slide with a test pattern, this was used at the station to set all of the Vertical and Horizontal Oscillators, then the home viewer could adjust their home receiver so that the image at their house was correct. The networks had no way of video taping those shows, the only records are from film cameras used in production and then shown by projecting the film onto the kine-scope.

Very few knew that smoking caused respiratory diseases, smoking by the actors was very common and the brand just happened to be the same as the sponsor. News Casters often smoked on the set, again brand placement. About the time of JFKs election the dangers started to become apparent. If I remember correctly during the news shows about JFKs assassination the news casters were smoking. Some time about the winter of 64/65 the warnings started to appear on the cigarette packages, along with the FCC telling broadcasters not to show individuals smoking. Liquor and alcoholic beverages could not be shown being consumed, they could show it in a glass or being drawn or poured, but not being swallowed.

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