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Colonel Panic
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Icon 1 posted May 19, 2007 21:38      Profile for Colonel Panic         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Excellent one from TIME.

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1623337,00.html?cnn=yes

I love this quote:

"Already, without having seen the film, anti-Moore websites have collected claims that many Cuban hospitals, unlike the one shown in Sicko, are dilapidated and crawling with cockroaches. Uh-huh. That means they're almost as bad as Walter Reed's Building 18, to which Iraq-vet outpatients were sent."

Let's us know the Righty lie machine is still running at full speed. Praise Jesus! And pile on the blasphemy!

Oh yeah, and "Support the Troops!"

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Icon 1 posted May 20, 2007 06:29      Profile for spungo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Colonel Panic:
Oh yeah, and "Support the Troops!"

We should promote an alternative: "Support our Troops -- Don't Ship'em out to some Bullshit War!"

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Icon 1 posted May 20, 2007 08:13      Profile for WinterSolstice     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I always liked the bumper sticker:
"I support the troops - that's why I ride a bike!"

Seen on a bicycle in Davis, Ca.

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oaklandj
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I saw the movie last night (hey! he says he's not averse to P2P sharing...) and it was a real eye-opener. Not a huge fan of Moore myself (he was quite the polemic in F9/11), I was truly impressed by it and how he covered how bad, corrupt & expensive our current system is, and how every other industrialized country on the planet enjoys far better, universal care (incidentally at a much lower cost).

I included some graphs that show how much more we're paying for crap healthcare here:
http://hubpages.com/hub/Sicko-Review
(basically we pay double what France, UK & Canada do, and closing in on 20% of our larger GDP, it's ridiculous)

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Icon 14 posted June 18, 2007 10:50      Profile for Snaggy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I saw it last night too... [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

Having spent much of the last year in doctor's offices and hospitals with my mom as she dealt with her cancer, I found it very relevant.

/me hugs Canada. [hearts]

My favorite part was when the French woman commented that in France (and other countries) the government is scared of the people, while in the USA, the people seemed scared of the government.

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Nitrozac

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Icon 14 posted June 18, 2007 11:05      Profile for Nitrozac   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I saw the movie last night, and I thought it was great! That scene where the sick Americans were being taken care of in a Cuban hospital, and crying tears of gratitude and joy must really irk some US politicians. heh.

It was very interesting seeing how great the UK and French medical care systems are. We have a pretty good health care system here in Canada. I don't mind the heavier taxes so I'm able to have my medical needs taken care of. I've had to have surgery this year, and I was very grateful not have had to deal with an insurance company deeming it necessary or not, and I'm very glad I didn't have to spend my life savings on it either.

From what I understand, medical insurance premiums are very expensive, what's the difference between that and paying taxes? At least taxes are based on your income. And, if you don't want the government to control your medical care, why would you want a profit oriented company to control your medical care? That would be far worse, IMHO.

On the news, sometimes they have stories about people having to wait months for an MRI, but, I noticed with my aunt who had cancer last year, they could get her into an MRI that day. So, if you need an MRI, you get it, and if it's urgent you can get it very quickly.

OTOH, my cousin is a hospital admin in the states. He seems to be all for the US medical system, I wonder about his opinion about the movie, I'll have to ask him. I'm sure he deals with having to decide what to do with people who don't have insurance. I sure hope he does the right thing, but I don't envy his job even though he's richer than I'll ever be!

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quote:
Originally posted by Nitrozac:
That scene where the sick Americans were being taken care of in a Cuban hospital, and crying tears of gratitude and joy must really irk some US politicians. heh.

It's not just merkins who sometimes have to travel for health care. In the UK, the waiting list for "non-urgent" (a very flexible term) care can be years. My uncle Robert got tired of waiting for the UK NHS to fix his cataracts, so he took a cheap flight to Cuba, got them fixed there, and had a nice holiday in the sun at the same time, all for a fraction of the cost of private treatment in the UK.

When my sis-in-law was working in New Hampshire, she had health insurance, but still found it cheaper to drive to Montreal for her doctors visits and pay the charge for non-Canadians there.

Oh, and a news article on the rising levels of personal bankruptcies in the USA mentioned that the #1 reason for them was ... medical bills.

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Icon 1 posted June 18, 2007 14:54      Profile for Sxeptomaniac   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I have to admit, the $1,000 I had to pay after insurance for my outpatient hernia surgery does seem pretty steep. I wonder what the procedure would cost elsewhere.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
It's not just merkins who sometimes have to travel for health care. In the UK, the waiting list for "non-urgent" (a very flexible term) care can be years. My uncle Robert got tired of waiting for the UK NHS to fix his cataracts, so he took a cheap flight to Cuba, got them fixed there, and had a nice holiday in the sun at the same time, all for a fraction of the cost of private treatment in the UK.

Yeah, but that's because the Brits just don't fund their health care system enough. In the graphs I posted on my page, they are just underfunded. If they were to DOUBLE how much they pay, they'd STILL pay less than us, and I'm sure that would cut down on waiting lists substantially.

The NHS has plenty of complaints but the solution seems to be to spend a bit more on it.

Besides, scheduling an appointment with specialists here in the States can often be no easier.

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