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Ashitaka

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Icon 1 posted April 30, 2007 02:52      Profile for Ashitaka     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Sxeptomaniac:
I find it ironic that people respond to an article about people freaking out and overreacting by doing the same. The actions of a prosecutor in Illinois are not necessarily those of the entire US. It's certainly not the first time someone has been slapped with ridiculously trumped-up charges.

If they actually manage to convict him on any of that absurdity, I'll start to worry.

The problem is that he is charged with disorderly conduct. This is very broad and since offending others can be considered tumultulous, his conduct probably falls under the umbrella of this law. I don't know Illinois' definition of disorderly conduct but here is Indiana's.
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A person who recklessly, knowingly, or intentionally:
(1) engages in fighting or in tumultuous conduct;
(2) makes unreasonable noise and continues to do so after being asked to stop; or
(3) disrupts a lawful assembly of persons;

I say he could be convicted considering the histeria of the current state of America.

p.s.

Sorry to all the femminists out there for using the word hysteria.

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quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
...the only way to keep my dark and/or private thoughts forever secret is to let them rot in my head.

People at work sometimes make me very, very angry. When that happens, I write a scathing e-mail. Sometimes, I get my co-worker (who understands these things) to proofread the message if I think I've done a particularly good job of skewering, because she will find them amusing.

Then I close the message without saving or sending it.

Getting it onto a screen usually gets it out of my head, and it doesn't matter that it won't ever get read.

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Icon 1 posted April 30, 2007 09:15      Profile for Sxeptomaniac   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
quote:
Originally posted by Sxeptomaniac:
I find it ironic that people respond to an article about people freaking out and overreacting by doing the same. The actions of a prosecutor in Illinois are not necessarily those of the entire US. It's certainly not the first time someone has been slapped with ridiculously trumped-up charges.

If they actually manage to convict him on any of that absurdity, I'll start to worry.

The problem is that he is charged with disorderly conduct. This is very broad and since offending others can be considered tumultulous, his conduct probably falls under the umbrella of this law. I don't know Illinois' definition of disorderly conduct but here is Indiana's.
quote:
A person who recklessly, knowingly, or intentionally:
(1) engages in fighting or in tumultuous conduct;
(2) makes unreasonable noise and continues to do so after being asked to stop; or
(3) disrupts a lawful assembly of persons;

I say he could be convicted considering the histeria of the current state of America.

Doubt it. Disorderly conduct is public behavior, and his essay was intended as private, from what the article says. Assuming they don't drop the charges altogether (which is quite likely), all he needs is a halfway decent lawyer in order to be found innocent. Even the average public defender could probably get the case completely thrown out.

Yeah, it sucks what this kid could end up going through in order to fight the charges, but I don't think for a minute that the act of charging him with that crap is anything more than a hiccup in the US criminal justice system. The hysteria has faded pretty rapidly along with the news coverage, so it's not likely to be much of a factor, particularly by the time the case goes to court (if it does at all).

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*points and laughs*
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He should have plagiarised something off Wikipedia like 95% of his classmates.

Ummm, unless he did! <fx: GULP! endfx>

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quote:
Originally posted by mistersaxon:
He should have plagiarised something off Wikipedia like 95% of his classmates.

Ummm, unless he did! <fx: GULP! endfx>

Or purchased it.

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Maybe the teacher was doing some kind of psychological test on them by saying that they could uncensor themselves and weed out the nut cases? I think the administration of schools try to make examples of the students sometimes by doing extreme things to those that break the rules, like the time they suspended a boy for taking a steak knife to lunch to cut his apple, as knives are considered weapons = zero tolerance.
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