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rivenGlitch
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Icon 2 posted May 24, 2005 20:26      Profile for rivenGlitch     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I am 29, and have been using a puter for some time now (19 yrs, giver or take a month or two). I just miss the early days, back when you could hit a chat room and just jump in to the chat, even on yahoo. Whether it be; about that brand new 1GB HD you just bought (19 yrs ago of course, mind you that would be neat to see now…), to what you had for breakfast, and how that chick you met on Australia the other night is doing.

Now it seems that all the chat rooms in the cyber world are all over run by BOTs, the 31137 speakers, and the famous “cum chat live on my web cam” adds.

Now sure you will say: “Hey just use irc!” and yah, that was really good in the early days, but now even that seems to be over come. I am sure that there are still decent rooms out there, but it could take you a life time to sort through the terabytes of rooms listed.

Ah, sleepless I am, just felt like a rant… thanks for reading this.

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Just use IRC! [Wink]

You know there's IRC channels related to this site, don't you? Just check out the IRC link here

Edit: Wait a minute, you're telling me Australian chicks use the Internet? I thought that was a myth [Wink]

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rivenGlitch! Definitely check out #joyoftech on Slashnet. [Smile]
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Yeah, I used to frequent chat rooms all the time anymore.. nowadays they all suck though.. Except the all super awesome #joyoftech [Smile]

Even though any time any of my friends see me in it they say, "Are you in one of /those/ chat rooms?" They automatically think I'm trying to get pr0n or meet girls... oi vey...

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quote:
Originally posted by rivenGlitch:
that chick you met on Australia

What exactly does this mean?
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quote:
Originally posted by jordanv:
quote:
Originally posted by rivenGlitch:
that chick you met on Australia

What exactly does this mean?
I think he's an old friend of csk's [evil]

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ravenunderwear has a point here though... even most irc channels are now overrun with kiddies, and twenty-somethings trying to get laid.. it's really quite disgraceful.
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Weren't the "good old days" just the same except we were the kiddies and 20 somethings trying to get laid?

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You see, the internet has become too cool, we need to either:

a) Do something to return the internet to it's geeky heritage.
or
b) Create something new, that's as geeky as the internet was when it was first being developed.

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Icon 2 posted May 26, 2005 00:08      Profile for GameMaster   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
It's not just the internet that is too "kewl" these days. All the things we used to use to find other geeks are going away and being replaced:

Sci-Fi has made it into the mainstream again with irobot (Isac Asamov is a Sci-Fi god), the new StarWars trilogy and the like. Now, even HHGTTG is making it's way into the main stream.LOTR is nolonger just a big book that no one but geeks ever read... It's now a movie that everyone had to go see, and then read the book.

Gamming... Everyone plays computer games now that everyone has computers. ... I suppose we still have PnP RPGs? But still.

Anime. I was in the mall a few months back and I there was a teeny-bopper girl that was wearing pants that were too tight and low, and a fishnet shirt with a tiny tube top on... I was just about to grumble about "kids these days" when she went into SunCoast and start looking at the Kenshin graphic novels. Then my cloths rant fell on the floor by the bigger rant of them stealling everything that is geek and turning it into watered down pop-culture. Pokemon and Yugi-Oh aren't enough, how long will it be untill FOX starts showing things like "Hikaru No Go" and "Yu Yu Hakuso" (Yu Yu was on Adult swim and later Toonami... It's going to be the next Dragon Ball I think).

I don't think it would be so bad, but a lot of times good things get watered down or otherwise ruined when they come into the pop-culture world. Look at the new SW episodes (not talking about epIII as I *GASP* haven't seen it yet -- things came up [Frown] ). Yugi-Oh in the original Menga was actually quite good, but the TV series has taken a bit away from it... Leave it to AOL/Time/WB to take a lot of good plot and boil it down to a kid series. LOTR was really well done and loved all three of them, but it feels like they took something from us and made into a pop-culture beast. Look at TLC shows "Faking It" and "What Not To Wear" -- they are even trying to take us and turn us into "them," especially the girls. A few nights ago "What Not To Wear" took a geek who works for the military and wears traditional geek garb and turned her into a trendy hipster. What it's not enough to invade cyber space, Sci-Fi and Anime; they also have to take our geekettes and try to transform them into their pop-culture girls who care more about labels then what feels comfortable (even when their jobs involves crawling under desks to run cables and pull boxen).
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Icon 1 posted May 26, 2005 07:13      Profile for drunkennewfiemidget     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by sconzey:
You see, the internet has become too cool, we need to either:

a) Do something to return the internet to it's geeky heritage.
or
b) Create something new, that's as geeky as the internet was when it was first being developed.

I disagree. Look at /. 95% geeks still, and yet 95% of the stuff on that site is still useless babble, and could be erased and no one would care.
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Icon 1 posted May 28, 2005 02:55      Profile for rivenGlitch     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
and could be erased and no one would care.

Well, I have to say that: I might know of a few that might have a word with your statment.

Yet even /. has it's flaws, if you have spent the time to read some of the replies that the original posts get... Well if you have... nuff said!

I have to agree with sconzey.

I for one choose "B".

For evulution will always be in our favor... lets make the internet and the web, evolve!

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Long ago, back in my impetuous days, my favorite stunt on chat rooms was to pose as a woman and see how many guys would ask me out or hit on me. I'd register my name as "Suzie" or "Veronica" and sure enough, BLOOM!, within thirty seconds I'd receive the inevitable message: "ElfJackal0767 has requested a private chat." And within ten seconds of accepting, my alter-ego would be asked out. These poor guys would also beg "Please, Suzie! You sound really cool! Just go out with me once to see what I'm really like!" This happened an almost infinite number of times. It soon became boring, and I started feeling sorry for the poor guys I was baiting (and, conversely, started to sympathize with any real women who had the guts to go online back then). And then I realized that I was probably not the only one doing this. Maybe some of the guys I chatted with "privately" were simultaneously putting me on? Regardless, somehow it ruined the innocence for me (or, better put, I ruined it for myself).

The good old internet days are gone.

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There was once a system in sydney which was started way, way, way before the internet was it..

It was a system which was written entirely for fun, chatting, messages and socialising..

The place was started back in April 1991... Beleieve it or not, the place is still around and going through the process of a major revamp..

The place is Active BBS http://www.activebbs.org

...Fun in yer face! [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by rivenGlitch:
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
and could be erased and no one would care.

Well, I have to say that: I might know of a few that might have a word with your statment.

Yet even /. has it's flaws, if you have spent the time to read some of the replies that the original posts get... Well if you have... nuff said!

I realise this is an old post, but I didn't realise it back when it was first posted, and I think it warrants a response.

I have a karma rating of 'excellent' on slashdot. I reply to posts probably at least once or twice a week, and *rarely* get modded down. The few times I do is because I'm "redundant" by reiterating a point someone else has made.

I still stick to my original statement. There are some *really* insightful and interesting things on slashdot, and I make sure I mod those posts as such.

Unfortunately, there's still a *huge* amount of CRAP on that site, and if you set your threshold to -1, and then deleted the bottom 95% of all of the posts there, I bet you you'd still have a little bit of junk -- albeit not as bad as, "HAHA ROFL FIRST POST, FUCKERS!", but you'd still have some crap.

The point I was making was that /. is *mostly* only geeks, and still has an awful signal-to-noise ratio. Geekiness does not imply usefulness, thoughtfulness, or decency.

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Come on, you guys. We all know what ruined the internet:

GUIs.

If not every idiot and his mother could use a computer, then we would have the same kind of eliteness that the internet used to have.

I mean, I'm all for most people being able to use a computer, but you really should have to pass an IQ test or something to make life easier on tech support.

When I began learning linux (on debian-- ugh!!!), I had no idea what I was doing. I totally wiped my own machine, and had to use my dad's laptop to read 'howto's' in order to get my modem running on my computer, at which point I then used lynx to look up how to get X Windows working (which of course never happened because I was using debian).

But you learn the little things like 'okay, I wrote this configuration file... why can't this program access it? oh, THATs what the chown and chmod commands are for.'

Wow, this was a very long and off-topic rant. Please excuse.

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Originally posted by nerdwithnofriends:
Come on, you guys. We all know what ruined the internet:

GUIs.

Um, that is both more and less true than you know. Mozaic is a huge part of why the Darpa net turned into the internet and not one of the other early hypertext systems.

If not every idiot and his mother could use a computer, then we would have the same kind of eliteness that the internet used to have.
Haven't you read the posts about /.?

I mean, I'm all for most people being able to use a computer, but you really should have to pass an IQ test or something to make life easier on tech support.
Er? Tech support makes companies lotsa money. Money is used to fuel new R&D. New R&D = new toys. I don't have a problem with tech support.

I think the main thing ruining the internet is that most people use the anonymity of the web as a sheild against all sorts of things.

When I began learning linux (on debian-- ugh!!!),
Debian is good. I like Debian.

I had no idea what I was doing. I totally wiped my own machine, and had to use my dad's laptop to read 'howto's' in order to get my modem running on my computer, at which point I then used lynx to look up how to get X Windows working (which of course never happened because I was using debian).
Um, getting X on debian is really really easy.
code:
apt-get update && apt-get install x-window-system 

Then if you really want, you can apt-get kde or gnome.

But you learn the little things like 'okay, I wrote this configuration file... why can't this program access it? oh, THATs what the chown and chmod commands are for.'
chown is to change owner, chmod is to change permission mode... Both really useful and dangerous (if not used correctly) tools.

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GameMaster - In your comments regarding debian, I know. I was just saying that that's how I learned linux, the example I gave is one of the reasons/ways I learned the chmod and chown commands.

But in regards to getting X windows running, this was a few years ago on an original bondi-blue imac. The issue was the X-configurator, it didn't really work that well on that particular machine, and since I was a linux newbie, I had no idea what I was doing.

Then I discovered YellowDog and rpm, and life was good.

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quote:
Originally posted by Smiley:
There was once a system in sydney which was started way, way, way before the internet was it..

It was a system which was written entirely for fun, chatting, messages and socialising..

The place was started back in April 1991... Beleieve it or not, the place is still around and going through the process of a major revamp..

The place is

(snip)

I strongly suspect that the above is spam.

But, if we're doing shameless self-promotion, just look at my signature line. [Beard of Peter Gabriel!]

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quote:
Originally posted by Erbo:
I strongly suspect that the above is spam.

Could be. Didn't stop me going through the whole photo gallery to see if I knew anyone (I didn't [Frown] )

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quote:
Originally posted by nerdwithnofriends:

When I began learning linux (on debian-- ugh!!!), I had no idea what I was doing. I totally wiped my own machine,

Boy, I oughta slap you.

Then again, I'll just chalk up your distaste for debian in point #1 with your lack of having a clue in point #2.

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Honestly, there should be a 'freedom of distribution' clause in the constitution

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