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Dr Psyclops
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Icon 10 posted February 08, 2004 16:17      Profile for Dr Psyclops         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
From general Physics. Any normal person with my intrests would study Philosophy, but I'm studying philosophy in my own time, hybridized with higher mathematics.

Wha'cha think?

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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2004 17:16      Profile for Orpheus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Congrats! [Smile] With a math degree you should be able to do just about anything.

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Icon 1 posted February 09, 2004 02:36      Profile for spungo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Orpheus:
With a math degree you should be able to do just about anything.

Yes, but I, for one, have never heard anyone say "Yeah - that's the logician's Porsche", for example.

I've always thought the Institute of Physics' logo should read: "With a Physics degree you should be able to do just about anything... except get a date, of course."

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i would try to do maths as a major, but do economics and business as a minor. apart from the fact that there are lots of interesting problems in business (game theory, chaos, derivatives, modelling etc) that have still got loads of research to do, having some knowledge of economics/business, combined with maths, will greatly expand employment possibilities

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Icon 1 posted February 09, 2004 10:56      Profile for cheezi git     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
This is a fascinating
example of how maths/physics is being applied to social sciences

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Icon 1 posted February 09, 2004 15:28      Profile for littlefish   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Well I think that maths sucks ass. But that's just my opinion.
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Icon 1 posted February 09, 2004 15:39      Profile for Xanthine     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Waaait...aren't you a physical chemist???

I'm not a big fan of math either, but fortunately for me all I ever need to do is algebra and arithmetic. Oh yeah, and some curve fitting, but that's what computers are for (that and we try to linearize everythihng anyways).

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*sigh* I wish I had been a math minor. It would have made my life so much easier. The Big Oh notation of my course load would have been around O(1) instead of O(n log n) - there's a great overlap here between CS & Math, and I would have only had to take about 2 more math classes. I'm not quite as good at math, but it would be better than management, I should think.

/me looks above - and I won't even try to read that as nice 'fitting curves' [Wink] .

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ok I'm already so deep in academia I sometimes fail to see beyond it into the 'real world' so my answer was somewhat skewed to my perspective. You could join any research lab you wanted with a math degree. I guess basically anything theoretical will benefit, and some practical jobs too.

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quote:
Originally posted by Orpheus:
ok I'm already so deep in academia I sometimes fail to see beyond it into the 'real world'

WTF is that? [Razz]

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quote:
Waaait...aren't you a physical chemist???
Yes I am, and those bloody kids I teach in the labs keep asking me questions about maths that I can't answer. As a physical chemist I shouldn't need to know maths, just how to make all the big expensive shiny machines work together. (And when you figure that out you get a Phd). For an organic chemist you need 3 years of results, for a physical chemist you need 3 weeks of results, but you have you use machines so temperamental and esoteric that it takes 3 years to get them all working in concert. Any maths I need to do gets done by the computer. Having said that I understand mostly what is going on, but ask me to re-arrange a formula and I'm not very good!

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quote:Originally posted by Orpheus:
ok I'm already so deep in academia I sometimes fail to see beyond it into the 'real world'

WTF is that? [Razz]

The big room, with the blue ceiling (sometimes black with white sparkly bits).
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so, as a physical chemist, does that mean you work out a lot??? [Confused]

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no
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me too!

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quote:
Originally posted by littlefish:
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quote:Originally posted by Orpheus:
ok I'm already so deep in academia I sometimes fail to see beyond it into the 'real world'

WTF is that? [Razz]

The big room, with the blue ceiling (sometimes black with white sparkly bits).
Hehe. I see the sparkly dandruff on the black celing more often than the blue ceiling.
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oooooh sparkles! [Eek!] [Eek!] *droooooool*

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Icon 1 posted February 10, 2004 18:36      Profile for Dr Psyclops         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Excuse me but I have to do this:

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Whew.

Chaos is fun.

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Me doing maths, statistics, applied maths, accounting, programming. I hate it... hope it gets better.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dr Psyclops:
From general Physics. Any normal person with my intrests would study Philosophy, but I'm studying philosophy in my own time, hybridized with higher mathematics.

Wha'cha think?

normal according to whoze standards???? there is no such thing as a normal person.

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quote:
Originally posted by cryptOrchid:
Me doing maths, statistics, applied maths, accounting, programming. I hate it... hope it gets better.

sounds a pretty good mix. it might be boring, but look at the courses as building blocks, to take you somewhere you really want to go, somewhere interesting and challenging
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It is quite difficult to get to grips with some strands of modern Philosophy without an understanding of Maths, and when in Maths you start dealing with stuff like that square root of -1 impossible numbers schtick, you are not far from Philosophy. So I do not understand your question. The subjects are related.

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normal as in average. I'm not the average mathie, not the average student, not the average philosopher, not even the average geek. I hate being average.

Philosophy has lots of logiks, you can't forget the logiks.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dr Cyclops:
I hate being average.

you should study statistics then, and find out that no one is normal. it's impossible

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Metaphysics and Ethics has told me that conventions make people the same. 90% of people are followers anyway. [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Dr Cyclops:
Metaphysics and Ethics has told me that conventions make people the same. 90% of people are followers anyway. [Wink]

Especially Star Trek conventions.
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Icon 1 posted February 13, 2004 12:39      Profile for Dr Cyclops   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
In the words of my Japanese instructor, Kazuyoshi:

"Remember when you're young,
*raises two middle fingers*
take no shit from conventions,
make your own pile of shit!"

Kaz is awesome!

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