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fs

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Icon 1 posted July 29, 2008 04:54      Profile for fs   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
_________________________ fs __ Will your plan help or hinder the art of thread-jacking.

Lets be truthful here these forums have been going on a long time, more than any TV series (not counting soaps). So how do we get more people involved and keep them involved, I know that many posters that I liked to read their point of view have left, and without diversity we just become a crowd of back slappers and you're right brother or sister. Too many insightful people have left, I hope that they were not offended and left or I hope they upgraded their computer and did not know how to regain their password.

Me wonders if Snaggy could do a spam of all members to invite them back, I would not mind, that form of spam.

I thought this might be a better place for the discussion.

I've been thinking about it too, lately.

I neglected GC for a while. Not because I don't love you guys, but there's only so much God and Politics I can take. And every time I read there was more God and Politics and less Geek talk.

Not that God and Politics don't have a place, they do. It's the Politics/Religion/Current Affairs board. But it seems like it leaks out, gets out of balance. And honestly, internet places to get on a God or Politics soapbox are a dime-a-dozen these days. And there's a reason I don't hang out there. Places for fun and interesting Geek talk on a range of subjects though, not so many.

And it came down to a choice: write off GC as another "God and Politics" pit stop or put some effort into making it a bit geekier around here.

So I've been trying to inject a bit more Geek and a bit less God and Politics in the topics I've been adding lately. I'd honestly rather talk about the changing roles of libraries or Joss Whedon's newest project here, with people that have intelligent opinions and ideas and can carry on conversations, not just spam rhetoric about God and Politics.

And maybe someday soon the hot topics will be stuff like ComicCon and Dr. Who and flame wars will be Asus Eee vs. MacAir.

Hey, you can say that I'm a dreamer...

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quote:
Originally posted by fs:
flame wars will be Asus Eee vs. MacAir.

Hey, you can say that I'm a dreamer...

If someone were to buy me one (either will do!), I could help live the dream...
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quote:
Originally posted by Stibbons:
quote:
Originally posted by fs:
flame wars will be Asus Eee vs. MacAir.

Hey, you can say that I'm a dreamer...

If someone were to buy me one (either will do!), I could help live the dream...
I've seen the Eee (Maswan's sister has one) and it's really cute and tiny. I am jealous. The keyboard doesn't seem like it would be well suited to big hands though, and I dislike the touch pad. I prefer the IBM style with the track point.

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Excellent idea fs. I'll definitely try to do the same.
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I agree with you fs!!

I decided to stay on these forums because I thought there would be good geek topics ranging across the board. I might learn a couple things, have a good laugh, and inject my own opinion every now and then.

Now it seems like you said, it is all politics and god. And half the topics remotely geeky are started with someone linking something from reddit/digg/ etc and the other half people start adding useless comments about beer/ porn/ etc or critisizing other members.

I remember last summer we had an issue with a member which turned into a bit of a lengthy dispute. But the argument stayed within its proper thread and didn't infect the rest of the topics for the most part. People were still talking about the latest hypes, about something that happend in there lives, there latest baking creation, and asking for geek help about a hardware/ software problem.

Lets go back to the way things used to be!!

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My boss was thinking of getting an eee. I didn't realise how cheap they were.

Has anyone used one for video out? If I was getting one, it would be mainly to take on the road to perform presentations, so would need to plug into a projector. Also, do they run hot? my macbook has been toasting up my lap now it is summer!

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Don't know about either. But since Maswan first introduced me to the N series Nokia's I have been trying to figure out a way to justify one. Especially the new n810's. That is one slick set up.

Sorry about my sporadic posting. But in one sense, I haven't had much too say. And like fs, I really had no interest in "Terrorist, Bush, Cheney, Right-wing, Left-wing, Right, Wrong, God, Satan, Militia, Hillbillies, Bible," talk. And it has been a theme lately.

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_______________________ FS _ I did follow the link and will reply both places, I used to enjoy a good thread-jack, and I like you feel the the hot button topics do draw a crowd or turn it away much like a street fight. So much of the politics discussion is basic gut feeling and we are not going to change minds, some times I post to politics but it is getting less and less. Now about Snaggy spamming us Good or Bad?

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I want the geek talk back! I suggested a time ago that if there was a way to filter out some forums from the "Freshest 15 Posts", specially the "Politics/Religion/Current Affairs" one, that'd help a lot.

I like the concept behind the Eee, but they're not nearly as cheap here [Frown]

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____________________ Richard Wolf VI __ Maybe there is. Snaggy do you have the option to turn the various forum topics color. Say religion and politics would show up as red the Love topics pink, and ask a geek some pastel shade, Color code the forums.

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Buh, buh! I want that UserJS... I really don't know why I deleted it [Frown] Hmm, it'll take a while until I get a credit card that works.

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quote:
Originally posted by fs:
... The keyboard doesn't seem like it would be well suited to big hands though, and I dislike the touch pad. I prefer the IBM style with the track point.

Bah! I hate those nipple mice. I find it much more intuitive to direct the pointer via motion than by pressure. [devil wand]

(How's that for the start of a geek flame war?)

Edit: Also, if I'm going to multi-touch on a nipple it had better be human. And female.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ugh, MightyClub:
quote:
Originally posted by fs:
... The keyboard doesn't seem like it would be well suited to big hands though, and I dislike the touch pad. I prefer the IBM style with the track point.

Bah! I hate those nipple mice. I find it much more intuitive to direct the pointer via motion than by pressure. [devil wand]

(How's that for the start of a geek flame war?)

Edit: Also, if I'm going to multi-touch on a nipple it had better be human. And female.

Sacrilege! Nipple ftw!
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I came across the Sylvania gOS based netbook and thought it was pretty cool. Previously didn't have much interest in an Eee PC as the storage space is pretty small.

But, then I took a look at the prices and specs, and realized that for ~ USD$1000 I could get a Macbook with much more storage space, Wi-Fi, larger screen, about the same battery life, etc. I know it's at least 2x as much, but, I'm not sure the value is there for me.

Now, if the Eee PC or the Sylvania were at $100 less I'm might lean heavily toward that direction.

As a side note, had a work-issue Dell lappy once with a track point; preferred that to the trackpad, though it took some time before I could use it well.

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quote:
Originally posted by tweety:
But, then I took a look at the prices and specs, and realized that for ~ USD$1000 I could get a Macbook with much more storage space, Wi-Fi, larger screen, about the same battery life, etc. I know it's at least 2x as much, but, I'm not sure the value is there for me.

Now, if the Eee PC or the Sylvania were at $100 less I'm might lean heavily toward that direction.

Newegg is selling the 7" 2GB Linux Eees for $299.99.

Storage isn't much of a problem for me since I usually just keep what I need on the HD and put most of it on the server where it's just an SCP away when I need it. But even so, 2GB would be bare minimum.

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I like this new wave of mini notebooks, I feel that they do great for managing information on the fly while having a central server, say, home computer, to sync your information without the need to expend more on a laptop. It's the price thing that is not right here, though [Frown]

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While I agree in general with what snakey says, (and to be honest it would probably take someone far braver than me to disagree with her - her bite stings! [Big Grin] ), I would point out that in an election year you will naturally get a lot more politics than at other times, but things will calm down after November.

And in the end people talk about politics and religion because they matter. I have always found these forums to be a good mixture of the serious and the frivolous, and I don't believe that the health of the arcane, eccentric, or frivolous threads here is in any way threatened.

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quote:
Originally posted by fs:
quote:
Originally posted by tweety:
But, then I took a look at the prices and specs, and realized that for ~ USD$1000 I could get a Macbook with much more storage space, Wi-Fi, larger screen, about the same battery life, etc. I know it's at least 2x as much, but, I'm not sure the value is there for me.

Now, if the Eee PC or the Sylvania were at $100 less I'm might lean heavily toward that direction.

Newegg is selling the 7" 2GB Linux Eees for $299.99.

Storage isn't much of a problem for me since I usually just keep what I need on the HD and put most of it on the server where it's just an SCP away when I need it. But even so, 2GB would be bare minimum.

That pretty much is my issue. For $299 I can get an iPod Touch with pretty much the same capabilities that are a driving reason for me to consider a netbook. Except, I'd get a heck of lot more storage with Touch, but a lot smaller screen and a keyboard that I'm sure makes typing difficult at best. Now, if I could get an Eee PC with a 20 or 30 GB drive for $299, then I'd definitely lean in that direction (running Linux, of course).

As it stands, however, it's all academic for me at the moment. Lacking funds, blah blah blah.

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You bring up a good point, but vi is still better than emacs.
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/me fist bumps Metasquares. ;P

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quote:
Originally posted by tweety:
That pretty much is my issue. For $299 I can get an iPod Touch with pretty much the same capabilities that are a driving reason for me to consider a netbook.

Ah, I misunderstood. I thought you meant for $100 less than the Macbook. (I thought it was kind of strange, but who am I to question?) [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Metasquares:
You bring up a good point, but vi is still better than emacs.

This is no good for flamewars here. We long ago drove all the emacs users underground.

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quote:
Originally posted by fs:
We long ago drove all the emacs users underground.

Where they belong.

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I saw an Eee PC last year. 'twas cute-ish, but reminded me of an ancient IBM ThinkPad. My question, though, is this: How do you pronounce "Eee"?

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quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
How do you pronounce "Eee"?

The second 'e' is silent.

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