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Ashitaka

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Icon 1 posted November 23, 2010 05:09      Profile for Ashitaka     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I think that the Kindle is having a disasterous effect on the ratings of books on Amazon.

Many people are rating books the lowest possible, not because they read the book and disliked it, but because they don't like the price for downloading in onto thier Kindle!

all the devils are here example
As for this book, so far it is very informative, if not interesting.

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Icon 1 posted November 23, 2010 06:43      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ Eventually the market will rule, sales mean more than ratings!! If the price comes down and sales leap, it was priced too high.

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Icon 1 posted November 23, 2010 08:29      Profile for Ashitaka     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
____ Eventually the market will rule, sales mean more than ratings!! If the price comes down and sales leap, it was priced too high.

FWIW, in 15 of the 16 one star book reviews, the reviewer hasn't read the book and is simply upset about the Kindle price.

There are 35 reviews total, with an average of 3 stars, if you got rid of those 15 reviewers who have not read the book, the rating would jump two stars to five out of five.


Maybe now, sales; a more important indicator, will be slower because of all the bad reviews from revieweres who have not read the book. Most potential buyers just look at the average, and not at what the people are actually saying.

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Icon 1 posted November 23, 2010 09:45      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ It goes with the turf, Movie reviews, if a certain reviewer pans a movie I go. If a different reviewer says it is good then it depends on the genre. For awhile I read anything Steven King wrote just because he wrote it, then I started to see how he constructed his books and lost interest. Some word smiths are better at spinning their yarns than others, on line reviews read the comments do they have any sense about the topic?

____ If Dman stated that a certain router was a piece of poop I would tend to believe him, some person unknown to me, meh.

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Icon 1 posted November 26, 2010 15:47      Profile for Serenak     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
FWIW the closest I have come to that is looking at apps on the itunes store... sure I notice the overall stars... but i do make a point of reading at least a few of the reviews... If they complain about price I ignore that and look for comments relevant to the performance of the app. If they complain about the performance of the app i take a bit more notice

All this stuff is new - it will settle in time

I am a big fan of free - as in beer, but if no "no cost" solutions work well enough I will move up to a paid version or app - and in that situation what people say is more important than what stars they give

YMMV of course depending on what you require

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Icon 1 posted November 26, 2010 21:49      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
MoMan: Woo! High praise, good sir! [Smile]

Ser: "it will settle in time" - indeed, my thoughts as well.
I suspect the more "5 people thought this review was pointless" gets applied to the 'price' reviews, they'll start to disappear.

On a loosely related note, I was pretty disturbed to read something that suggests that the only reason Bristol Palin is still on "Dancing With the Stars" (which I've /never/ seen) is not because of professional reviews (which pan her), but because of the Palinistas, who all jump on the phone or computer, or whatever it is people do, and clamor that she's wonderful.

Yay for honest reviews. :/

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Icon 1 posted November 27, 2010 03:58      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ Dman, Me thinks the term is "Stuffing the ballot box."

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Icon 1 posted December 02, 2010 11:04      Profile for Stereo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Oh, besides. Turns out that some people use Project Gutenberg, and propose them for a price on Amazon. I'll have to hunt the reference, but just remember to check Gutenberg for your older book needs. They may be available entirely for free.

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Stereo wrote:
Turns out that some people use Project Gutenberg, and propose them for a price on Amazon.

Here's an article about that

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Icon 1 posted December 03, 2010 08:18      Profile for Aditu     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
That is why you don't buy a kindle. Then you can download for free from your library. We check out e-books all the time here, but you can't put them on a kindle
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Amazon reviews remain a mixed blessing. Use them with caution. For better or worse, they can give a general idea of the quality of the book as long as one reads the details.

Then there are the cases where authors, their friends and their families submit glowing 5-star reviews for their kins' work. Those remain harder to weed out.

In the end, book sales don't amount to too much, sadly. I recently heard in a speech that the average sales volume for a typical New York Times bestseller is 45,000 copies.

If the Kindle ultimately appeals to the gadget generation and increases interest in literacy then we all have gained something. But technology and a overbearing insistence on efficiency seems to find ways to make us all a little more illiterate. Who has time to read a book when we're busy being so efficient, after all?

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Icon 1 posted December 03, 2010 10:31      Profile for Ashitaka     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Aditu:
That is why you don't buy a kindle. Then you can download for free from your library. We check out e-books all the time here, but you can't put them on a kindle

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